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"My friend grew up in New England where they have pigeons. Apparently they also hate them. He was always saying bad things about pigeons until I pointed something out that he never thought of before:
We domesticated pigeons. They are (nearly) all over the world because HUMANS
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@yishan
@constans
@maxdubler
The org that represents them won’t let the broader org hire enough people for normal staffing levels, because that would adversely effect the artificial demand for overtime that the existing members demand in order to maintain their ongoing inflated rates.
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Hot take: a wife is not actually equivalent to a service that does your menial household tasks. Those are not, in fact, the same thing.
Go ahead and @ me.
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It is totally insane how many people love high infant mortality and think these people deserve it forever.
Ok but when are we going to make contact with North Sentinel Island? Are we going to have Mars colonies and trans human cyborgs but just keep a bunch of people in a pre bronze age bubble until the end of time?
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@TurmShrub
@lastpositivist
I can’t imagine being jaded enough to pretend not to understand what Joe’s referring to here and that it is not the same thing as just eating dinner. Like is this a meta-level of irony I’m not getting?
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@shadihamid
@mattparlmer
It’s been jarring to watch people I otherwise respect recommend that Jews are obligated to accept endless attacks without any response as long as the attackers are willing to hide behind their own children.
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@SwannMarcus89
Not true. Cop unions, unlike all others, are full of cops. It’s silly to pretend that there are no unique features of police culture.
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@mrjasonchoi
@tszzl
It’s weird that people quickly conclude “you could do this with anything”, but then don’t equally quickly conclude “so, doing it with something fun seems obvious and cool.”
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@GarrettPetersen
@Aella_Girl
There's no way that the phrase "a dev environment" means anything at all to somebody with 2 days of experience.
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We have just invented the first effectively universal conversational chatbot and it isn’t world news.
No software has ever come even close to this.
People have been working on this problem since the dawn of computing, and it just casually happened, right now.
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@nateliason
I’m very with you in spirit but the contrived nature of this story is self-defeating.
It’s just incredibly hard to imagine how a young person who loves painting and has parents that supportive could have ended up with a great offer at JP Morgan. Weren’t they already painting?
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@ara_hagopian
@lastpositivist
Shocked that one of the largest and most visible multinational corporations in the world that runs huge and famous physical theme parks has a security department.
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@wutanggenerator
@yishan
@constans
@maxdubler
This is how every cop shop and firehouse literally anywhere works. It’s not like some unique thing.
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This is by far the strongest visual illusion I’ve ever seen.
Chromostereopsis
The majority of people see red in front of blue, while 10-20% see blue in front of red.
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@yacineMTB
I was a state athlete in high school doing 2/days with depression. I currently lift 3-5 days a week with depression.
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@mbateman
This is the same thing as your “take your life seriously” line, I think.
People who know what they want are pursuing it. People who don’t know what they want aren’t pursuing it. And it’s just rare and difficult in general for anyone to switch those lanes at all.
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@TylerAlterman
That’s because in practice all the smart people could quickly learn the same practical know-how, but most of the practical know-how people couldn’t quickly do the reverse, otherwise they would.
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@VertLepere
@seconds_0
“a man dressed as a FedX driver opened fire at Salas' husband Mark, immediately after he answered the door.
Gov. Phil Murphy said that the shooting was a reminder that gun violence was still a crisis”
Hooooooly shit.
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Children are complete people. They have agency. They are indeed oppressed. They deserve control over the use of their attention. That is why we should in fact liberate them. And someday we will.
*What do we do with children?*
They are conscious. They have feelings. But they're extremely oppressed. The problem - they don't have agency and a bunch of other essential things. Children are, in a sense, not complete people. You can't "liberate" them. I have no idea what to do
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This is basically as good as the best art I have ever seen. I am dumbfounded. And my timeline is Faster.
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The whole intrinsic point of this freak show is to force children to suppress their natural empathy.
Everyone involved has been hijacked by memes specifically designed to make them ignore their moral knowledge.
How - *how* - can you not have had "are we the bad guys?" esque thoughts at any point during this sequence of events? Blimey.
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@Richard_Vixen
I find it odd that you seem not only to be interested in speaking for your own experiences and perceptions, but in denying the experiences and perceptions of everyone who disagrees. Am I misunderstanding you?
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@simon_ohler
@arubikscube
@PstafarianPrice
Well yeah, if you are trying to give “advice”, then burying in a close reading what you think is good advice, while you first and directly say to do what you think is actually bad advice, may not be advisable.
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@the_aiju
Or has the network of people against which you’re comparing moved from a few thousand to many millions?
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Eventually one of the more important inequalities will be compute.
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The view that delusion is actually good or necessary is shockingly common.
Nothing good that results from delusion could not be had by some other better understanding that did not require being wrong.
In order to do anything worth doing in life, you need to be a bit delusional and actually really believe in that thing, in a way that might seem irrational from the outside. This takes courage.
Spreadsheet morality (80k hrs careers ranking) & its cousin, optionality obsession,
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@Aella_Girl
People who don’t see the benefit of checking in also systematically perceive disputes as being about onject-level issues, instead of noticing trends. People who notice trends know better why check-ins help to resolve them.
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@kenthesimp
@micah_gj
Let me be more explicit. I value the explicit. I was curious about what you were getting at with the story. But all I found was a bunch of “no that’s not it”, so then his flippant remark resonated with my annoyance.
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@micsolana
Most people I talk to seem to be pretty honestly confused about economics in a Dunning-Kruger kind of way of simply assuming that purported challenges of incentives and efficiency are totally invented.
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@scottswigart
@sympatheticopp
Wait what?
“Talk about appearance” is not at all equivalent to “take away control over appearance” and the fact that apparently lots of people think that is compelling make me wonder if everyone is already traumatized into not noticing the difference?
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@TomLikesRobots
@TuurDemeester
It sounds like he was indeed aware that he could have chosen to restrict the use of that money to the library and he chose not to. The article talks about that.
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@Aella_Girl
It is just historically connected to people doing things like forced sterilization of people deemed socially unworthy.
Like most taboos, nuance is considered tacit or secret endorsement, so it’s easier for most people to apply the stigma than run afoul of it.
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@goblinodds
Yeah I’m more taking issue with the whole frame. Not that “a wife won’t do housework”, but that “wanting someone who does housework is not the same as wanting a wife.”
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@dystopiabreaker
I recognize that this is come controlnet generated thing, but I don’t recognize the original pattern.
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@_ali_taylor
I don't even understand what this means, tbh. You're saying that they show up at work and say they won't work? Then they get fired? And then...?
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@lisatomic5
That’s just lying and I’d be very clear from that point that you can’t trust them because they have shown they’re willing to lie to you to get what they want.
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@PstafarianPrice
@Aella_Girl
I still don't think it's reasonable to describe "totalitarian dictatorships" as "communism".
If I take a bunch of people hostage at the local school and tell the police that I am holding a "school board meeting" that don't make it so.
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@mollymcghee
Have you asked yourself why it’s so difficult to admit that you are not actually poor?
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GPT is not going to radically increase the number of people who can program, nor is it going to reduce demand for professional programmers. Somewhat more people will program much faster, and there will be even more demand for them.
i'm.. starting to think of "programmer" as like a temporarily historical job.
like ... elevator operator.
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@Aella_Girl
I’m surprised you’re not just background aware of this from being present in American culture and consuming American media.
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I have to keep rediscovering the principle to ignore all nutrition advice and just eat whatever seems good.
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@Aella_Girl
Racial fairness is an uncontroversially real thing with visible effects.
AI-doom is a completely speculative thing, based on logical arguments.
It’s analogous to religion. If you buy the arguments then it’s the most important thing happening. If you don’t, it’s silly.
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@CJHandmer
Compared to our culture they are incredibly *incompetent* at killing. As they are in almost every human endeavor.
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@tszzl
Your private connotation of “smart” might be doing a lot of work there.
The narrative and production were top-tier. Maybe it wasn’t like, philosophically sophisticated or something, but that would be a weird bar for mainstream HBO drama.
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Am I really the only one who thinks there’s a good chance AGI will kill all humans and also that we should keep plowing full speed ahead?
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@the_aiju
lmao at the number of repliers who are defending the autistic mode as the objectively correct one.
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@adrusi
So on that timescale this must have been approximately true for all of human history and will be for at least another human history, right?
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@DellAnnaLuca
@wanyeburkett
Not surprising at all. It’s very obvious that some people are smarter, and others less smart.
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@JeffLadish
My highest confidence out of all the possible outcomes here is that if anything prevents a potential disaster it will not be government action.
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@Tjdriii
I know it feels like you've looked everywhere, but I have several times had that subjective experience and been surprised.
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@sgodofsk
Weird, kinda seems like the people who literally make them illegal and suppress their manufacture and distribution are actually the reason they are hard to find.
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@lillybilly299
@olivertraldi
He specifically says that he is recommending things for a modern business context which are often silly or ridiculous. Having a coherent weird bespoke asthetic is fine and some people can get away with it, but a lot of people would just look incredibly cringe and fedora.
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@made_in_cosmos
No, it’s because birth control and culture gave them an option, while in the past there was effectively no option.
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@Aella_Girl
On brand for people to be expecting a playful “boo” and you come skittering across the floor like it’s The Exorcist.
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@quantian1
@FunctionCost
At least you are generically and straightforwardly anti-freedom. That makes it simple.
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@jdcmedlock
@DavidBahry
For the sake of example, if 90/100 people rent apartments and 10/100 people live in SFH they own, by that method of calculation the homeownership rate would be 100%.
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@rmcentush
@miraculous_cake
In case it’s not clear, that is a variation of “it’s a coincidence.”
The fact that those are the ratios is just what it takes to create that appearance. It doesn’t explain why our moon should exhibit those ratios instead of any other. That’s not a general principle of moons.
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@HedonistRat
@the_aiju
That’s a normal part of all human cultures, which is why a failure to be able to do that effectively is the name of a disorder, as mentioned in the OP.
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@TylerAlterman
Yeah and not “all” either, of course.
But I’d guess many more software engineers learn to fix their toilets than plumbers learn to self-host their websites.
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Read HPMOR by
@ESYudkowsky
over the last week.
It was touching and engrossing. I laughed. I cried. I wanted more.
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@lillybilly299
@olivertraldi
I’m sure you know those things are not really correlated but okay.
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@TrocarRogue
@Aella_Girl
I can describe anything as requiring the labor of others, and so can effectively eliminate all human rights.
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@iamharaldur
Love to say “honest question. honestly confused” and then ask comedic rhetorical gotchas to anyone responding in good faith. You’re doing great. 👏🏼
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Do we have any evidence of GPT producing original discoveries, concepts, research avenues, hypotheses, etc?
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Am I the only one who thinks that this makes Yud and his cult following seem like they would actually be the incredibly dangerous ones in the presence of powerful technology that they don't understand and want to nevertheless try wielding with immediate and extreme results?
What are some "known pivotal acts" which are outside the Overton window and which Yud might be gesturing at here?
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@zeta_globin
Companies really do not burn tons of cash on useless functions. If your model suggests that every company burns tons of cash for no reason, you should be suspicious that it is your model, not the whole business world, that has missing info.
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@animalologist
@rarelyquinn
This is because “hot men” implicitly includes the fact that they are a dramatically smaller % of all men than the hot women are as a percent of all women.
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@reasonisfun
Reinforce desired behavior (sharing, generosity) and model desired behavior (saying thank you).
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@lastpositivist
Formalism - Vibe
ayyy lmao
this is the heart of philosophy, all else is commentary 🧐
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We are a million times as rich as 1000 years ago, but we don’t work a small fraction of the time.
Instead, most people still have to work a large portion of most days to sustain themselves, and all the upside is priced into the higher range of possible lifestyles.
Our world is about to become so obscenely rich. An entire planet of relaxed and decadent aristocrats. As it was meant to be.
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The most sus part of these LK-99 results so far is that nobody capable of synthesizing the stuff is capable of recording video at the 9th grade level.
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@Aella_Girl
Nobody can exist on this planet except in relation to some established society.
Every place and object on this planet at this point implicates and is inextricable from someone’s “labor”.
Rights can’t be described or separated cleanly on the basis of this factor alone.
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@samswoora
A wife is not equivalent to a person who manages the help. Those are not in fact the same thing.
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