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"Truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it. But there it is". Any opinions or views are my own.
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@JamesEsses
@thenorthface
I am genuinely puzzled by this.
What is stopping people of any particular race going camping or hiking?
Why is the great outdoors somehow off limits unless you're white?
What am I missing?
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@GoldsmithsSU
How does it motivate girls to show them what men have achieved?
Isn't it telling them "you can't" rather than "you can"?
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@S0phieSparkles
You paint it as "hate" because that's all you can do.
But the mask is slipping and people are starting to see through it.
It is not "hate" to disagree or not share your beliefs.
It is not "hate" to stand up for our rights and those of our children.
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@TransKidsRule
How does keeping male out of female-only single-sex spaces enable "right-wing fascists to take away ALL our rights"?
You can believe whatever you wish, but you cannot force others to play along.
Especially in schools.
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@scotgov
"Gender identity" is a contested belief system without basis in fact, science or reality.
You speak about it like it's an established fact of life.
It most certainly is not.
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@MrMennoTweets
@UNWomenUK
@roseveniceallan
@MForstater
@UNWomenUK
you should hang your heads in shame for appointing a MAN as the first "UK Champion" of a charity that is meant to be for women.
Not just a MAN, but a MAN who pretends to be a woman by grotesque sexist parody.
Shame on you.
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@ilovepreserves
Does anyone actually choose to refer to their bits as a "pussy"?
I do hate that pornified term!
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@ThomasWillett9
@joannaccherry
Can you give me an example of a human right that she is trying to remove from people who call themselves "trans"?
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@JamesEsses
@JohnLewisRetail
This is why companies are being found to have directly discriminated. Until reality slaps them in the face, they can't see it.
"We got Stonewall in, paid, put rainbow stickers everywhere, gave pronouns badges out, let men use the women's fitting rooms. What did we do wrong?"
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@stephenwhittle
A guess! 🤡
Imagine being a professor and saying, in all seriousness, that a midwife "guesses" a baby's sex.
Not heard of ultrasound scans then?
Or biology? Or fact? Or reality even?
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@Skirt_Go_Spinny
Associating womanhood with female biology is misogynistic?
But associating it with pink frilly knickers, cheap wigs, smeared lipstick and rubber breasts isn't?
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@SVPhillimore
It puzzles me how they imagined a single solitary woman could move on from the dog and cheese comment to committing genocide.
I mean, what special powers did they think you possess?
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@MrMennoTweets
What does it feel like to be a woman or a man? How can anyone really say?
How do we know if the way we feel is the same as the 3 billion other people of the same sex that roam the planet?
The very concept is indeed absurd.
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@kelly_cadigan
@AAT514239395330
And you will probably claim to be seeking acceptance.
I was going to say you don't care if women object, but you do care.
You want us to object but be powerless to stop you.
That's the thrill for you, isn't it?
We see you and we say no.
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@MForstater
Oh I see!
Here I was thinking this growing list of cases (Forstater, Bailey, Meade, Phoenix etc.) were reinforcing the principles that GC beliefs are WORIADS and their expression is protected... but all the while they were eroding it?!
How wrong can a girl be?!
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@AusSkeptic
@Psychgirl211
You're spectacularly missing the point.
The point is *consent*.
I can consent to a man touching me or I can request a female nurse.
But if that same man puts lipstick on and says he's a woman, my consent and request are side-stepped.
Can you not understand that?
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@stephenwhittle
@blindinGC1
Have you lost the plot?
Dinosaurs had male and female sexes millions of years before humans even roamed the planet.
What on earth are you talking about?
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@veritasalways1
@Serena_Partrick
I have to remind myself it's not some kind of nightmare...
Taking a child who says they are the opposite sex, playing along telling them "yes, you must be" then leading them to a future of bodily harm, sterility and life-long medicalisation.
It's like a horror film.
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@TheHoodedClaw66
@Sewn_apart
I am no expert but I thought that a valid defence is that that what was written is true, is that not the case?
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@realmofzaterra
@PhoebeVaughan17
@ThomasWillett9
So you're OK with men in the toilets with you.
What about in the changing room while you are undressing?
Or locked in a prison cell with a woman?
How about taking your daughter's sports scholarship?
Or maybe being paid more than you but it counting as a woman's salary?
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@LogikReks
You'd still be male so they *should* say the same thing.
Whether in the current climate they will, is another question!
It depends on whether they prioritise men's feelings over women's safety and dignity.
The fact that so many will is part of the problem we are facing.
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@TheFamousArtBR
Living proof that biology doesn't care about your name, haircut, clothes or pronouns.
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@ThomasWillett9
Just listen to yourself.
Gender ideology does exactly what you just said but for women and girls and anyone who believes in biological reality.
Gender ideology fosters and indeed promotes exclusion (not inclusion) and hostility.
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@Aussie_GC_Man
Would he be disappointed if he discovered "lady" in the next stall was a man in a dress who put the tampon up his bottom?
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@taylorkwinship
@Isla_macy
Nonsense.
How can you legally protect a belief but not allow the believer to express it in a lawful manner?
If that was true, belief in gender identity could be held but not expressed.
Can you see that flying?
Anyone could say they find any belief 'hurtful'.
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@NadiaWhittomeMP
@lloyd_rm
What does LGBTQ+ even mean?
I got LGB and get the "T" but what is Q and particulary the "+"?
Do you even know what people you claim to be fighting for?
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@markasenior29
He's not the first to say this. I've heard other trans identifying men say an "F" printed on a bit of paper makes them female.
India Willoughby and Rachel McKinnon are two men who spring to mind.
Ink on paper does not a woman make!
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@FemNorthern
This is almost unbelievable! I thought I was watching something from a few years ago at first!
Disgusting and disgraceful.
Just like International Women's Day. All about men and what women can do to make them happy and sexually satisfied.
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@SheaChristie3
@MForstater
@JohnLewisRetail
@waitrose
What are "trans rights"?
And how do you know the majority of the country are supportive of them?
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@SVPhillimore
Oh yes of course...
We all look forward to Robin Moira White presenting his rebuttal to us.
Large and unpleasant as I'm sure it will be.
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@PhoebeVaughan17
@ThomasWillett9
I'm not "cis" or "trans".
So you don't mind, bully for you.
But I do mind and so do a great many others and consent is not something you can give on our behalf.
Transwo-men are men.
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@jim_dickinson
Are you sure there's no way you can further play down this win?
Perhaps Robin White could help you? He's good at that.
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@Nikki13687705
It feels like we're in some dystopian nightmare where not allowing boys and men to do anything they want is a crime.
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@HazelAppleyard_
Good of him to respect the privacy of this "group of guys" and not get them in the video.
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@ThomasWillett9
You're twisting words.
Expressing perfectly ordinary protected beliefs in a lawful way is not "causing harm" to anyone.
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@SVPhillimore
Has the Green party issued any statement on the schools guidance?
I'd be interested to see.
I'm not sure how you can publicly disagree with plain statements like "boys must not use the girls's changing rooms or showers".
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@stuartf100
Who isn't?
Mumsnet is a beacon of sanity in a sea of gender woo-woo.
Frequented predominantly by British mums and some dads too.
Now why would such as site become renowned for speaking out against gender ideology?
Why might that be?
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@patrick_ness
It doesn't matter if they are word-for-word.
The subject is different.
They used to think tomatoes were harmful. We now know better.
Does that mean any concerns raised about potentially harmful foods should be dismissed?
"Oh yeah that's what they said about tomatoes!"
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@PaulSimon1971
@KemiBadenoch
Actually the opposite is true.
They would've had accepted him as what he was. A boy pretending to be a girl.
That's his choice but he wouldn't have the right to force others to play along.
See how it works? Believe what you like, but don't dictate other people's beliefs.
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@BraddockBessie
My young daughter has read much of Roald Dahl. The originals, not the latest ones that won't say dangerous scary words like "old" or "ugly".
I'm glad to report she hasn't ended up a quivering wreck mentally scarred.
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@SVPhillimore
@lauraev81180802
I've worked in "progressive" offices like this, when visiting customers. They were single occupancy, fully enclosed rooms with sinks.
But they are disgusting. Urine all over the seat or the toilet itself if the seat is up. The smell of men lingering.
I really don't like them.
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@helenstaniland
Imagine if a woman stood up and said "the world would be beautiful if we just stabbed trans people".
We've come far, but this shows how much further there is to go.
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@MxVivianWulf
You are quite wrong and missing the point.
The "I ❤️ JK Rowling" poster is significant because when it was put up at a station in Edinburgh it was removed for violating rules on political posters.
Yet these GI political flags and signs have been allowed.
That's the connection.
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@GenderReceipts
@KemiBadenoch
Teachers are not in a position to decide this kind of thing. Egregious safeguarding fail.
Mermaids has no right to tell teachers to act unilaterally and decide whether or not to tell parents about such things.
No parent would welcome teachers keeping secrets with their child.
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@CrunchAlias
In that situation you are participating in his fetish.
To me it seems no different to him saying he has a foot fetish so you slip your shoes off and walk around bare foot whenever he's around.
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@MrMennoTweets
Maybe no "T" family members... but someone, somewhere, close to her.
A friend's confused daughter?
Son's 'girlfriend' has a penis?
It'll be something...
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@Isaac_de_Tormes
Forcing women into prison cells with men has been used as torture in China.
Yet we do it in the west and call it "kindness".
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@QueensSpeechUK
@NakulMPande
We have to stop using the term "transwoman" or "trans woman" or anything of the sort because it causes confusion.
Compare:
"Transgender women banned from women's changing rooms"
"Trans identifying males banned from women's changing rooms"
See it now?
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@oolon
We told the women to ring the bell if they were in fear or trouble.
Not once did a woman ring the bell, so all is well!
Nobody noticed the women's bell had been taken from them.
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@troonytoons
People might say, quite rightly, that these are extreme examples and they well may be.
But if you let just one man use female-only spaces, then you're letting all men use them and that includes the likes of these.
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@Shelley61265352
Tell me, do you think veterinarians are obsessed with animal genitals?
No?
You're gonna be so shocked when you find out how they tell if a dog is male or female.
Clue, they don't put pink and blue dog biscuits down and see which it goes for.
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@MrMennoTweets
@DavidMcGregorBN
Catch the eye of Menno,
And it will not be long,
You'll wake one day to find,
You're parodied in song!
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@CllrMegBirchall
Well perhaps you should make your position clear.
Do you think we should ever give men access to female-only single-sex spaces like changing rooms, refuges, hospital wards and toilets?
It's either yes or no.
I think "no". What do you think?
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@RyanJL
I see no reason why a teacher would need to tell parents if a pupil said they were gay.
A child saying they think they are the opposite sex and want to socially transition is whole different thing.
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@garylfrancione
To prevent men, however they describe themselves, from entering any women's space, club, group, gathering... whatever it may be, women should need only the word "no".
It is in itself a statement, explanation, reason and an answer.
No.
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@SVPhillimore
It makes me shudder to think of what the boys at my secondary school would've done if they were told they could simply declare themselves a "girl" and go straight into the girls' changing rooms and showers.
And that was before every boy walked around carrying a camera.
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@ilovepreserves
All humans are male or female and we cannot change sex.
We all grew inside a female who was impregnated by a male.
This is basic fundamental truth about us as mammals.
How can it be "hate"?
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@MForstater
If it were forbidden to express beliefs, where does that leave the belief in gender identity?
There is no hierarchy of protected beliefs. They are all equal.
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@VStRX6
@SVPhillimore
What does "trans" mean?
Does it mean that little boy who likes teddy bears and ponies?
We could assure him boys can like anything they want.
Or we could tell him he's a girl and begin a lifetime of surgery, hormones and sterility to make him resemble a girl.
Which is best?
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@ThePosieParker
"You cannot make people see the truth by telling them lies."
What a quote... 😲
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@randy_boldt
@helenstaniland
@OfficiousBysta1
A man's sexual excitement at imagining himself to be a woman.
Not the domestic chores, soothing children at 3am, being paid less, getting interrupted all the time, caring for elderly relatives, being doubted by doctors... no.
Just the bit they see on Pornhub.
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@freyafirst
My natural inclination to feel grateful for that is overwhelmed by anger that we have been forced to expect otherwise!
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@ThomasWillett9
I know a fair few lesbian and gay people who would staunchly disagree with you.
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@RayAlexWilliams
We are not meant to understand it. We are meant to pretend we do and tell anyone confused by it to "educate themselves".
Nobody understands it because it cannot be understood. Hence "No Debate".
But the emperor is naked and people are starting to point and laugh.
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@charilaou_alex
@wesstreeting
He's talking about making wards safer for women and you call that disgraceful?
Disgraceful that women and girls should have safety, privacy, dignity and respect for their faith in hospital?
Perhaps I misunderstood you, could you clarify?
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@FredSargeant
What regimes in the past have re-written history?
What kind of regimes were these?
How did it turn out?
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@stephenwhittle
Stop it Stephen.
You could very equally say the same thing about allowing the likes of Mermaids in.
Belief in the reality of our sexes is a protected characteristic.
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@xroxip_magic
@HazelAppleyard_
This is right.
You have a vagina and other sex specific characteristics because you're a woman, not the other way around.
A man has a penis because he's a man. He is not a man because he has a penis.
The distinction is important.
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@TheFamousArtBR
It's all for the men.
I sometimes think if they found a way to make male babies without needing a woman we'd be doomed.
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@SVPhillimore
Being told repeatedly we've been undressing and showering in the presence of undetectable men for decades is not the compelling argument they think it is.
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@TfnNahomy
@That4LeafClover
@TonyLaneNV
1 - A man who is sexually attracted to men is a homosexual. There's no clause to say "unless one of the men wears a dress and a wig, then its heterosexual".
2 - I agree it's personal preference but also sexuality
3 - Indeed, but that won't make straight men choose a man.
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@MrMennoTweets
If a judge is willing to bare-facedly lie about something so fundementally obvious, how can we trust anything else he would say?
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@BowTiedYanqui
@JamesEsses
@PetsatHome
This is insane.
How is it a "privilege" to be childless? So many people yearn to start a family but can't.
At best it is, for some people at least, a choice.
Disgraceful.
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@TheVikingDane
Is that the same Geneva convention that says men and women prisoners will be kept in separate facilities?
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@Psychgirl211
I would be willing to bet we'll be seeing this very clip in Netflix documentaries in the near future about the worst medical scandal ever to sweep the world.
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@NRArchway
@NetworkRailLBG
The message to women is "you are not safe here, nor respected".
The message to lesbian and gay people is "you are not welcome here".
You may not understand this but you need to.
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@UnicornsRockUK
How is a club specifically for females who are attracted to females "bigoted" if it doesn't accept membership applications from anyone who is not a female attracted to females?
Is an over 50's social club "bigoted" if they won't let a teenager become a member?
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@ThomasWillett9
How would you react if the railway put "WOMAN : ADULT HUMAN FEMALE" signs up?
Or "TRANS WOMEN ARE MEN"?
Or perhaps the Suffragette colour flags?
They should not be wading in to this nor taking sides.
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@helenstaniland
@leftoversoup3
@its_ermintrude
@Drusilla451
The truth defends itself.
Lies require constant effort.
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@Psychgirl211
This is an issue they simply cannot sit on the fence with.
There is no compromise, no middle ground.
Because of this, nobody can be seen as the "good guy" by both sides.
So they stay silent and hope that nobody asks them, or dodge questions if they are asked.
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@_wohyeahwohyeah
She said no child is born in the wrong body.
Do you disagree?
Do you think some children are born in the wrong body?
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@MForstater
@networkrail
@campervanwoman
Maybe they meant they don't allow the "wrong sort" of political advertising?
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@MrMennoTweets
He made a joke about Starmer not being able to define what a woman is.
How is that a "joke about trans women"?
I think the only people who would take issue are those unfortunate souls who use the word "woman" yet cannot explain what it means, or what they mean when they say it.
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@DawnButlerBrent
Dawn, you do realise that tweets last forever. That women keep receipts right?
And you are aware, I hope, of your party's public support for the recent schools guidance?
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@Freda_Wa11ace
@itsafrogslife
The school has a duty to enforce single-sex spaces. Boys cannot use the girls changing rooms, for example, under any circumstances.
Alternative arrangements could be made if that's practical, but not one that violates female pupils' privacy and dignity, of course.
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@LightShiner2
Because there are women who crave male approval, even at the expense of their sisters.
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