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Highly recommend John Oliver on cryptocurrencies. We need more people calling out the BS.
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Announcing the public launch of the Bitcoin Legal Defense Fund!
Please join us in helping defend Bitcoin open source developers against dangerous and damaging lawsuits with no merit brought by Craig Wright.
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This kind of misleading propaganda is unfortunate. Smart money isn't going to fall for BitcoinCash or AltCoin
#1931
, but if main stream media is helping pump those things, the individual investor at home is going to be the one losing out.
@rogerkver
aka Bitcoin Jesus joins us tomorrow to discuss the biggest change to the crypto world since time was invented! Must see TV..
#BitcoinCash
is here... deal with it!!
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@rogerkver
@BITCOlNCASH
@VinnyLingham
@deadalnix
@btcfork
@BitcoinCashFans
@CNBCFastMoney
@nChainGlobal
@DavidShares
@paulvigna
@CNNMoney
Completely serious question Roger, why do you think it’s OK for you to rebrand Bitcoin as “Bitcoin Core” but it’s not ok for people to call Bitcoin Cash something else? It’s fine if you like BCH better, but please don’t try to confuse people, there is no “Bitcoin Core”
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I used to recommend Coinbase to many people. I’m not sure I will anymore. By listing these tokens they are putting a shiny polish on garbage and contributing to defrauding the public. I don’t want to be part of that.
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I'm speechless. Why spend all our time on 2X fiasco, when only developer for the project doesn't even care about it:
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Balaji, thank you so much! We are honored to receive this money and put it to use funding everything from Bitcoin security to Lightning development, as well as helping us educate the next generation of devs.
Thanks to
@balajis
for his generous contribution of $500k, which will go to support Bitcoin development!
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Greg is a singular figure but in exactly the opposite way. He’s the most brilliant thinker in the space. No one is perfect but he deserves great credit for all he’s contributed. I believe all BTCers owe him a debt of gratitude. In particular I’ve learned so much: Thanks Greg!
@CalvinAyre
@gavinandresen
@peterktodd
@VitalikButerin
@aantonop
@ErikVoorhees
I hope Greg Maxwell rots in prison. He is more culpable for the derailment of the Bitcoin project than any single person on this planet.
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Key difference btwn BTC and 2X:
2X proponents will abandon ship if they arent majority.
BTCers would happily continue with smaller community
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Thank you COPA
@opencryptoorg
!
Judge Mellor rules from the bench: CSW is not Satoshi. We've always known that, but it hasn't stopped untold damage to developers and other Bitcoiners. Thank you
@Coinbase
and
@Square
and everyone who supported COPA and the devs.
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Here’s 1 big difference btwn traditional startup funding and ICO’s. Founders of failed startups shouldn’t come away financially enriched.
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This momentous day is the perfect time to finally post
@Excellion
's hat at the summit of Mt. Everest courtesy of
@patrickmauroii
!! Make Bitcoin Great Again!
#NO2X
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Do people realize that most of the Core Devs who actually do all the work rarely say anything at all in the scaling debate?
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@ErikVoorhees
What do you say Erik? Fair win? I’ll accept a donation to Coin Center or MIT DCI as payment.
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Stop saying reneged. The vast majority of the community didn't agree to anything. Those who did on behalf of others deserve to look foolish.
@rjenkins_atl
We have SegWit because of the NY Agreement that broke the impasse after 2+ years. Do you realize what happens if 2MB fork is reneged?
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I'll bet you
@ErikVoorhees
. The "bitcoin" with highest USD price 1 yr from today won't be a HF from today's Bitcoin. Stakes 1 of those BTC
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I honestly don’t understand why some people assign such horrible motivations to an open group of collaborators. Do they think we are part of a grand conspiracy? I came from the outside and found Core open and welcoming.
@creslin
@petertoddbtc
No it doesn't, SegWit is itself absurdly complex, obfuscates the code for newcomers. Most of all, it lays the groundwork for a future that requires expert input from the same insular caste of expert.
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Vitalik, let me shorten that for you:
Basic tip: If it’s an ICO, skip them.
Protip: if an ICO does volume bonuses ("buy at least $50000 of coins, get 20% more") then they do not understand the first thing about the egalitarian spirit of crypto (or at least, the egalitarian spirit that I believe crypto *should* have). Skip them.
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Let's set the record straight. Who from NYA is responsible for no replay protection? You cant all act helpless and say its out of ur hands
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Finally the btc1 project is beginning to understand a little bit the way I see Bitcoin. Quote from supporter in their slack:
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Craig Wright is inconsequential. But this sets a good a example of how Bitcoin should respond to threats. In a distributed manner, with strength in numbers, and not being reliant on any small group of individuals or organizations.
Some of the Bitcoin community's most prominent voices (and also Facebook subsidiary Novi) are now hosting the Bitcoin White Paper – seemingly in response to Craig Wright's legal threats.
@zackseward
reports
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This is the problem with this space. No. Just no. Don't encourage anyone to attack anyone else's software. Immoral and illegal.
@morcosa
@rm0rf
@_chjj
@Excellion
@petertoddbtc
@deadalnix
If someone attacks altcoins after this that's good. Breaking Shitcoins
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If part of community thinks closed source software is an option then we really have irreconcilable differences. How is this even a question?
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So by your own admission you are using 2X to make Bitcoin unusable for days after nearly 0 downtime in 9 yrs. Thanks
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Second time I’ve seen this misinformation.
Lightning txs are very much validated by your own node. They just aren’t validated by everyone else’s!
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I just published “No2x: bad governance model”
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@OneMorePeter
@_jonasschnelli_
@blockchain
99% of Core Dev work has nothing to do with consensus changes. It’s valuable work that needs to be done. Reducing protocol development to a block size constant is naive.
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I’m sad to see
@TheBlueMatt
go, but this is great news for
@sqcrypto
and Bitcoin! Helping build a new independent dev group is truly valuable.
Thanks Matt for all you’ve done for Bitcoin and for helping
@ChaincodeLabs
get where we are today!
Stop by and make us espresso often.
BIG NEWS: Please welcome
@TheBlueMatt
to Square Crypto. Woo! THINGS ARE HEATING UP EVERYBODY GET IN HERE LET’S PARTY 🌀🔥🌀🔥🌀🔥
*A lone figure watches from afar, their haunched shape a dark smudge against the gathering gray sky… Gary?*
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This is the important nuance I have trouble explaining when people ask me about my views. I think Bitcoin will be the best money, but I’m open to being wrong, but the most likely outcomes are 0 or 1 coins succeed.
@ecurrencyhodler
I think most actual "maximalists" would happily use a different blockchain or perhaps even an entirely different tech if it better solved the problem of sound money that is resistant to censorship, inflation, and regulatory capture.
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@jgarzik
@real_vijay
@mdotbit
@LukeDashjr
@brogadishu
@barrysilbert
@MadBitcoins
@bigmarh
@DCGco
You can’t make a deal with yourself and then tell us that you’re expecting something now. No. No deal. No trading. No “compromise”.
#NO2X
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It is interesting that we don't see ANY polls which point to 2X having even a simple majority, much less overwhelming consensus.
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Testnet has a bad block (00000000eba3f43a8624750f39e4520a1678c0dbdf8707bfa4854a12fbf086c5) exploiting CVE-2018-17144. This is a good time to check to make sure your systems are updated and patched against this bug.
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@JeremyRubin
@cz_binance
That’s among your worst ideas ever.
Who gets to decide when something should be reorged out?
We need to be building a social consensus around the way Bitcoin works and it ought to take a catastrophic event to agree to coordinate on a reorg.
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Bobby Lee,
@YourBTCC
, first to say he’s leaving Bitcoin for 2X regardless of market’s acceptance. Just a proposal huh
@mikebelshe
? Bye Bobby
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If I was sponsoring conference where CSW got up to speak, I would permanently withdraw all future sponsorship if organizers didnt remove him
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@ErikVoorhees
@jasonmsteele
@TheBlueMatt
@kyletorpey
@eric_lombrozo
We're not abandoning, but staying the course. U are changing paths. BTC is useless if it can be changed in NY Marriott. Luckily it can't.
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This is an important point. Would be nice if Coinbase was a better citizen, but any resource can and will be abused, so consensus rules must limit extent of that. Large blocksize => more externalized cost.
This may not be a popular opinion, but I'm wary of blaming
@coinbase
or any other company or individual for the state of Bitcoin. If Bitcoin requires the participants to play fair and be altruistic, it's pointless. We need to do better, via tech, not pitchforks.
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Important to realize we’ve made more than 1 mistake. And will make more in the future. But thanks for the support!
Nothing is making me angrier than
#Bitcoin
users getting angry at devs for this recent inflation bug. They have devoted, for free, years of their time and changed the course of human history. In doing so, they have made ONE mistake. Shame on you all.
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@matthew_d_green
@zooko
It's time to draw a line in the sand on the CSW issue. We must start holding those who support him like
@jonmatonis
to account. It's not ok.
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I just published “No2x: Full Nodes”
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For 2X, there were two heights of interest: 494,782 - the last common block and 494,783 - the first forked block. The only height that was advertised, 494,784, is just completely wrong. This was a huge mistake, no way around that.
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Spoke too soon. They revised their position and makes much less sense. Im confident Bitcoin will prevail but chaos coming first thx to NYA
Coinbase doing a great job reading the community support for 2X. Would be completely inappropriate to throw brand into confusion.
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I’m with Cobra here. It’s a bad situation and he has tried to do why he thinks is best. Outside observers shouldn’t underestimate the damage Craig and Calvin are causing.
@adam3us
@glennhodl
@Daniel4141414
@TrotterMax
It's easy to be a critic when you don't have billionaire funded people trying to drag out litigation on technicalities (even deliberately avoiding letting me pay him).
The site is the same for the vast majority of users.
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W3C abandons consensus. No org should ever govern BTC regardless of their rules, self-sovereignty means each of us enforces consensus.
#No2x
World Wide Web Consortium abandons consensus, standardizes DRM with 58.4% support, EFF resigns
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I normally ignore CSW, but this tweet says it all. I’m very happy to be firmly planted on the opposite side of this view.
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Bitcoin fork coming: Please be aware that most developers and full node operators will continue with existing rules:
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@mikebelshe
@bendavenport
@lopp
There are many thousands of people who would trade every one of their BTC to keep its incorruptible properties. Those ppl give BTC its value
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If I ran a Bitcoin company I wouldn’t shutdown operations for days because some irresponsible ppl were launching a HF w/o replay protection.
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@coindesk
I've been called all kinds of names and insults by
@rogerkver
and friends and for what crime? Volunteering my time to write code?
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In light of recent obsession with hashpower determining what is Bitcoin, it's time to remind people to reread this:
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Time for the crypto community to make themselves heard again! Please engage with your representatives.
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Some great material at the first Magical Crypto Conference. If you're "Bitcoin not Blockchain" (which you should be!) then you should forget about Consensus and watch this.
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@BronxR
@socrates1024
No it shows me a bunch of CEOs want to control BTC. Many of them don't even have the support of their employees, let alone their customers.
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@OneMorePeter
@_jonasschnelli_
@blockchain
How is it not worth one developer to work on the underlying protocol your business is built on?
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It takes tremendous hubris to be so sure your vision of BTC is right that u unilaterally destroy everyone elses to push yours. Offer choice.
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Webinar replay where I argue
#No2X
vs
@mikebelshe
in which I lay out whats wrong with 2X and why it's failed already
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@ErikVoorhees
@jgarzik
No. I will sell 2X regardless of hash/price and I will work on projects I find interesting which is not 2X. That's dedication to a vision.
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It's probably even more directly "tainted" than that. All those transactions include coins that originally came from coinbases, most of which included fees derived from 1000's of transactions in other blocks. It's almost like trying to track the electrons that power your home.
There's no such thing as being OFAC Compliant. They can raise the bar arbitrarily. Did they check the electricity wasn't paid for with sanctioned money? Did they knowingly build on a block that wasn't clean? Who gets to bless the first immaculately conceived "clean" block anyway?
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@jgarzik
@real_vijay
@mdotbit
@LukeDashjr
@brogadishu
@barrysilbert
@MadBitcoins
@bigmarh
@DCGco
If you author a proposal and the community supports it. Great. But you don’t get to make deals and declare new rules. That’s called fiat.
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Recent miner activity shows the obvious. "Agreements" don't matter. Only price/difficulty will determine where hash power mines after split.
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@jgarzik
@real_vijay
@mdotbit
@LukeDashjr
@brogadishu
@barrysilbert
@MadBitcoins
@bigmarh
@DCGco
The vast majority (not everyone, see BCash) of community was just waiting for segwit to be activated. But no one agreed to “trade” for it.
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I know this should be a dead horse by now, but why is there anyone that can confirm anything on behalf of your cryptocurrency? If Bitcoin isn’t compliant, there is no one who can make it so. That is a critical feature.
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This is well said. But there is a more fundamental question we should be asking, why should law enforcement have a right to access what's in our phones. Will we let them inside our brains when that technology exists?
I wrote up some of my thoughts on Ray Ozzie’s “Clear” phone decryption proposal.
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@petertoddbtc
@mikebelshe
Or perhaps those are the people we should thank for acting responsibly. It's hard to admit you were wrong and reverse course, and it should be applauded.
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Be aware you will own two Bitcoins like with August BCash fork and the narrative that community has all agreed to this "upgrade" is false.
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@twobitidiot
I don’t think I could agree with this any less. And I admit you know much more about any one of these “projects” than I do. But....
No one should buy any of this stuff.
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We all have a duty to stand for the truth and against scammers, whether CSW or ICO's. Our silence makes us complicit.
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@jgarzik
@real_vijay
@mdotbit
@LukeDashjr
@brogadishu
@barrysilbert
@MadBitcoins
@bigmarh
@DCGco
This language confuses me. Whose expectation? And who set it? The same group of you in a hotel. What’s that have to do with the rest of us?
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@OneMorePeter
@eric_lombrozo
That makes no sense. Core is an existing installed base with no planned changes. You were part of the small group that planned BTC1 changes
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Make Bitcoin Great Again at 20K ft on top of Lobuche East on the way to the top of Everest next month courtesy of
@patrickmauroii
@Excellion
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Final sprint starting to be ready for 2X disruption in November. Hoping to get release out just under the wire.
Merged PR from sdaftuar: Disconnect from outbound peers with bad headers chains
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Gavin helped me get started in BTC development and I believe he has good intentions, but we have 2 completely different visions for Bitcoin.
I'm proud to be part of the 99+% not running a full node. Zero reason for me to waste bandwidth monitoring other people's transactions.
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@jgarzik
@rogerkver
@AXAVentures
@Joi
@vkhosla
@khoslaventures
@reidhoffman
@mickymalka
@gavinandresen
@Satoshi_N_
@BitcoinUnlimit
I'd love to understand how "Core" can block a HF proposal. Are we gate keepers for the protocol? Are you frustrated community rejected?
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Let's be clear. If LN doesnt work, we still cant scale on chain. Its basic math. We'll have to find another solution. Dctrlzd money is hard!
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@OneMorePeter
The Core dev part of this tweet is just blatantly false. There are more active and involved Core developers now than ever before.
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@twobitidiot
@blueRAP
@eric_lombrozo
Potential disaster. What happens if/when 2x fails or doesnt happen? Bitcoin will have proven resistance to manipulation. Most valuable trait
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Well put!
Bitcoin is a very risky “investment”. Everything else is worse. A few are just riskier, most are worthless scams. If you can’t tell the difference, steer clear.
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@ErikVoorhees
Nov2x will be like BCash, a side show for pump and dumpers (at best, will be completely avoidable disaster if no replay protection added).
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@gavinandresen
Logic? Gavin, look at the futures, look at the polls, look at the nodes, look at meetups and social media. There is no support. Apply logic.
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