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But by their own standards, they are.
Leftist standards for being Xist are so low, mere guilt by association or using some slogan that *some* people use Xistly but not all, is enough to be considered Xist and be horribly excommunicated.
Does the same apply for anti-semitism?
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A lot is written about how liberals don't understand conservatives at all. It's all true. But conservatives really have no fucking idea just how delusional they are about liberals, and nobody who's even like, MET a liberal OR a leftist would ever think to draw that last panel.
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I have written a lot about how much I hate how little liberals understand conservatives, including some of the ones who think they understand them best, but my god, conservatives have no idea how actively delusional and detached from reality they are when it comes to the left.
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@HighTestMeta
@CartoonsHateHer
@mylordcod
Women frequently see guys like this and like them because of it. Funny guys get laid. Some of these guys might have difficulties getting to a date but I don’t know why you’re so confident in it.
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The funniest part of this comic is that the author actually got the leftist voice down a little by including "my guy" in that first panel, so they understood a tiny bit and are STILL totally delusional and detached from how liberals or leftists think.
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I try really really fucking hard to convey this, but every core leftist understands that leftism depends on people agreeing with viewpoints that are really hard to logically justify, so they absolutely exploit ways of phrasing them that just use social pressure instead.
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This is the embodiment of leftism. The dismissive “this site is for people older than 13” is the perfect encapsulation of how leftist arguments and thinking actually work in practice. I need to do a Blog on this probably.
I would love to tell this story to people outside of twitter and see what percentage of them would think the girls were the ones in the wrong
I'm betting on approximately 0%
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Naturally I wanna point out the huge spike happens at just before 2015, which is when I feel like online leftism really began its growth period. It’s hard to overemphasise how negative and depressive leftist spaces are. Like I am not making this shit up.
Whoa: Nearly 50% of teens say they don’t enjoy life
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If you fail to give immigrants from very different cultures jobs and instead make them rely on welfare, you get Sweden. Give them jobs (and minimize enclaving) and you get America.
Asylum recipients aren't illegal immigrants and it seems like a much better idea to let people granted asylum work than to force the government to take care of them because they aren't allowed to have jobs
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This is exactly like what you'd write about as a parody tweet of Tankies, but it was posted without irony. Like this would actually be a perfect joke.
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Whenever I use the word 'leftist', I want you to envision this exact tweet. This specific tweet. Whenever I talk about 'core leftists' that the periphery revolves around - which means the chapo and dirtbag guys - think of this tweet. I cannot sum it up any better.
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@hobbleabbas
@SwannMarcus89
"There are leftists and progressives who get upset about ridiculous shit" does not lead to "Leftists and progressives get upset about absolutely everything". They ridiculous shit they get upset about follows some pretty consistent ideas. None of them have to do with Christmas.
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The most important part of this is that Marc and others are *not* saying Fraud and going "The DEMONRATS did a heccin cheating again". People think that was all bottom up ideology that was baked in, and don't understand how much these types of beliefs are *top-down*.
Fox News' Marc Thiessen: The midterm results are “a searing indictment of the Republican Party ... The Republican Party needs to do a really deep introspection look in the mirror right now because this is an absolute disaster."
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Kander’s real message here is one about pure “code” lines, code in the sense of code switching. He’s basically saying he didn’t need to moderate on policy because he spoke the same code and it’s people who don’t do that who are the real turnoffs. And he’s right.
More Democrats should talk like Kander here — there’s no reason to moderate on policy in issues like trans rights (and honestly, abortion too), despite what conventional wisdom will have you think.
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@sharbelsong
@GloriaAlamrew
I don't know why anyone every bought into calling them founders as though the organization of the same name even mattered.
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Find it unironically hard not to Stan Chasers. “Nooo they approach trans women in fetishistic and objectifying ways” feminist literature calls that The Male Gaze, chasers just believe in equality and apply it to us too. I’m for people who say “Inexplicably, trans women are hot”
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@eHETEROPHOBIA
@serenafan14
@LubbaSMG2
@tinywienerbabe
We can tell what the joke is meant to be, but this is what it actually comes off as.
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This is actually one of those leftist claims I believed the most and just assumed was probably true for the longest time even after I stopped being a leftist, purely by social proof and exposure. I hadn't actually thought about it being wrong until... this week.
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@KnowNothingTV
@briantashman
Holy shit I didn't expect to be forced into saying "Based Bill Burr".
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@therickrayburn
She's obviously insane. I assume you probably have a lot more stories about her.
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Just saw someone suggest police salaries should be way higher to attract people who want money rather than want to be cops and it was downvoted but now I’m thinking “…wait a minute.”
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The reason it happens like this is because the 2013-15 era of SJWism is so discredited that even people on Tumblr, who were leftists, grew to hate it. Whereas everyone learned you can just say "Lol why would you do this you're a weirdo", and get better results.
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This is also something I posted about yesterday! “Leftists have a genuine lack of experience with and exposure to anything strategic, anything that needs to be organized at a large scale, they can't even imagine what it looks like.” It’s exactly what I’d expect.
I almost feel bad making fun of this stuff because they're so earnest, but every tweet I see from DSA people about the organization's finances explains exactly why they'd be so bad at managing the national economy the way they want to
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@flankana
@bobposting
There's no standard of "Guy who did really bad thing" that anyone can meet where they can "deserve" death because it isn't possible to "deserve" death, because it's never moral to kill anyone for non-practical reasons (safety, war, etc).
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When you're immersed in Chomsky-lit and leftist stuff, you just presume there's always some secret war going on that America is doing that The Media hasn't told you about and then a tweet will say "America bombed Al-Shabaab at Somalia's request" and you'll go "lmao endless wars"
@yhdistyminen
Biden getting no credit and all blowback for leaving Afghanistan, but tons of "more money for endless wars huh!" snark for sending leftover military equipment to Ukraine has been a huge realization no one actually cares about foreign wars.
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@BretWeinstein
@briandavidearp
@Alex05910347
You can’t seriously be suggesting that circumcision is backed by natural selection? Like literal, biological natural selection? Non metaphorically?
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“Jesus is a Spanish name so how can it be in the bible” is a take I would use to parody people in an exaggerated way, so it is definitely fun to see a Masters in European History make the take.
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The whole problem with how online works is that a lot of adults are unknowingly deferring their opinions to these 15 year olds.
I have a lot more sympathy for the fifteen year old tweeting this thinking that the UN can enforce a ceasefire than I do for the thousands of adults freely echoing this on the timeline.
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I have heard this said in leftist spaces for a long time and never actually seen even a speck of evidence that poor people are actually dependent on fast food as opposed to having the unhealthy habit of it.
oh man this is it. this is the caught-with-your-pants-down moment for this idiot. low income communities very much rely on fast food as the cheap option for their families. everyone knows this. if you’re a data/policy nerd, you have no business not knowing this.
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Conservatives love wriggling out of being associated with shit like this in the most pathetic ways honestly and I realized the mental resignation to it not sticking was causing *me* to not make it stick in my head. So no more of that. I’m gonna stick it on them now.
Right-wing fearmongering is evil and should be criticized as such. They know the nonsense they spew can result in shit like this and they just don't care
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@octagonPerfect
@RealTimeWWII
You know I think this cartoon should be a lesson that some of the people who call America bad and racist with those KKK hoods are in fact, using this to distract from the fact that they're worse by, say, being Literally Hitler.
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When you found a movement on generic senses of empathy, you put your entire system of morality at the mercy of people who can direct where your empathy should be targeted.
The hand-wringing by "progressives" at the very notion that Hamas should be condemned is astonishing. People who have spent years talking about feminism refusing to condemn mass rape. People who believe in humanity refusing to condemn the beheading of children.
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After being challenged by the
@ne0liberal
account, I wrote an effortpost on the neoliberal subreddit about why I think this time is different, and Trump is actually, really in trouble with the Republican base. For real this time.
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Chasers are so funny. They decided that the hottest thing in the world is the demographic people see as the least desirable, and that demographic has decided “No thanks, we’re good”.
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The preoccupation with Taylor Swift is the most Real Lefitsm part about this to me, preoccupation with random fandom interests and expecting them to fit into your depressive doomchamber cancel-y worldview is like the prime activity of teenage leftists.
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Winning the hacker tech arms race is nearly impossible. By inventing a steroids mode, TF devs invent a shiny new cool, *weird* thing that's *better* than botting randoms, and instead of trying to make ban evading impossible, it attacks the *motive* instead. Brilliant.
the most deranged decision a game developer has ever made, and i say this with love, was how titanfall refused to ban any cheaters and instead screwed the matchmaking to only pair them with *other hackers*, leading to the steroid olympics of multiplayer games
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The reaction to a 15 year old saying "I don't know how to learn enough about this to tell what's true or not" is sickening on here but it's also the exact demonstration of everything I've been saying goes on in leftist spaces that most people haven't gotten to see themselves.
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The worst argument I've ever had with a leftist is one who opened themselves to arguments publicly and then as it went on and they were clearly frustrated, they attacked the very concept of hypotheticals and analogies in reasoning, and accused it of being Shapiro-shit.
They can't understand meaning from the context in which words appear, they don't know what a rhetorical question is...I'm literally arguing with retards. How did the entire American left get this unfathomably stupid and incapable of understanding the English language
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I saw someone say “leftists have become edgelords”. This is what leftism has been like since AT LEAST 2015! This is one of the most familiar kind of leftist posting I’ve ever seen! From Tumblr of last decade! Leftists stopped being “I hate offensive jokes” really quickly.
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Prioritizing the motives goes beyond this too. Bystander leftists will pivot when bad arguments by a leftist OP are disproven because they want to protect what motivated OP to post and can’t let that leftist motive be threatened, because those are the Good Person motives.
I love left-wing arguments. The actual atrocities are irrelevant - what matters is motivations. The fact Genghis Khan and Tamerlane were far more violent than European colonial powers doesn't matter because they didn't have the motives I've arbitrarily declared The Worst
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Oh Jesus Christ. So that’s what happened. In case anyone has followed me from James Lindsay, me and him are extremely far apart ideologically and I basically disavow every part of him. We only agree that leftists are bad. We disagree about why (and very very often, how)
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Legitimately, the majority of leftists - at least when I was one - would understand "You know what, there ARE lines you shouldn't cross as an adult, and as an adult it's weird to go utterly ham on a 15 year old who's made it clear they are very 15." I think they've gotten worse.
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This, again, is not a Gen Z thing, it's a Tumblr thing that's slowly grown and the culture, or at least the conditions behind it, have gotten bigger but there's been no actual discontinuity. This is exactly like the old Tumblr powerpoint explainer memes.
What the fuck. This is why zoomers are so fucking misinformed. This is so fucking irresponsible. If you are going to make a cute little explainer for people who are completely ignorant about this region, maybe do some basic research into who Hamas is. Holy shit I hate this app.
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When you confuse having depression with insight into the world.
Form knowing people it feels like no one is being hired for new jobs, people can’t pay their bills, everyone looks and acts depressed. We don’t even make new movies and popular music or culture. Educational standards are collapsing. Everyone is going crazy. It’s like we’ve just…
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@eHETEROPHOBIA
@serenafan14
@LubbaSMG2
@tinywienerbabe
If I was clueless I wouldn’t have been able to figure out what the joke is meant to be would I?
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This is absolutely true and it is frankly relieving to see more and more people go from bad “I give up” style reasoning about what leftists think, to accurate insight that really gets the point. I think that sort of thing is important to undoing leftism.
American leftists, generally speaking, don't understand resource constraints. Every life problem can be solved by Mommy & Daddy writing a check. All social problems exist because the government refuses to allocate more "resources" (i.e. write checks). Etc.
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Tone Policing has always been a rhetorical weapon to use when someone pushed back against how violent or radical or hateful or misandrist you sounded, and has been used since its inception to criticize people actually criticizing the substance of what you say. That's its purpose.
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@SamWellerEsq
@michaelbd
@scottlincicome
Because what's happening in Ukraine fits into the internationalist version of patriotism that most of them acknowledge exist. You're not using the word "nationalist" to mean the same things people like me use it to mean, I think.
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Scroll through the Twitter topic about Ethan Klein now and look at the deranged posts from Hasan fans and imagine that was targeted at you when you were vulnerable and you can understand how psychologically warping being in an online leftist space is.
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"Innocent until proven guilty is only a legal standard" the hell it is. The reason people bring it up so much is because when we grew up we were taught it was a basic standard for a democracy. There has to be SOME restraint on the social side for society to actually work.
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This may be one of the funniest tweets I've ever seen.
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I promise you this post will (eventually) go hard, that title makes it look niche but this is about the entire culture of the internet and how profoundly and deeply it's changed.
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This is basically anxiety disguised as logic. You could write this same thread for men snooping on women’s phones, preventing women from seeing their friends, anything else bad that sometimes has a justification. Justifying obviously stupid things with outliers is just anxiety.
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I really wanna stress this point as hard as possible - leftists are so delusional you can’t even say they think there’ll be “no tradeoffs”, they do not even have that concept and operate in a totally incompatible paradigm. They’re not even close to thinking about tradeoffs.
@SwannMarcus89
@NoyesArt
Because in a lot of their minds the real cause of climate change is just the concept of capitalism. You've seen the idiots parrot the '100 companies produce most of the GHG' point.
A lot of people think the solution is to 'just' turn off the pollution machine with no tradeoffs.
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To elaborate on this a bit more - the *substance* of what leftists say largely *is* the tone. The tone is "more violence, more revolutionary anger, permission to say 'kill all men' or 'i hate cis/white/straight people'", and they want to defend the right to say this stuff.
Tone Policing has always been a rhetorical weapon to use when someone pushed back against how violent or radical or hateful or misandrist you sounded, and has been used since its inception to criticize people actually criticizing the substance of what you say. That's its purpose.
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@Tell34Truth
The Dan Andrews Effect is that Daniel Andrews is actually really popular with Victorians and you guys are completely out of touch with the rest of the country.
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@KnowNothingTV
@IrrationalChad
“It can’t be victim blaming/abuser logic because I don’t *feel* like an abuser.”
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This is actually invading therapy to the point that you can easily find conversations about CBT being problematic because it's "gaslighting". There's a fair few people out there sort of dedicated to debunking CBT too. The first screenshot really sticks out to me.
There's not enough discussion about how the way modern leftists view the world is anti-CBT. The movement is based on telling people to act in the opposite fashion evidence-based psychiatry would recommend and shockingly they then all become mentally ill
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The actual heir to the poets of old today are rappers who use such inventive wordplay that there's an entire genre of youtuber who exist to listen to it and then fall out of their chair at the bars, which is the type of theatrics that deserve the lineage of Dante.
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The fact that this discourse is even taking place in leftist spaces and that room needs to be made to permit anti semitism so much that the OOP here isn’t purely cancelposting is genuinely insane.
"We shouldn't forgive racism against Jews because they might also be racist against other people" is an incredible instance of saying the quiet part out loud lol
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First post!
In 2020, I made a post on r/neoliberal about Defund The Police where I invented the word Sanewashing. But the post was pretty messy - so I've made a big update to it. Now it's way more readable, with more evidence too.
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I have spent a lot of time interacting with conservatives on their own terms, deliberately avoiding dehumanizing them and trying my best to understand their arguments in their own words, and the inescapable conclusion I've come to is "They are just stupider than liberals."
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People have source amnesia about this shit. It’s not school that teaches the sentiment they hate, it’s the echoes of past pop culture that live in the modern one around them, and they perceive school to be part of that vague reinforcing mass no matter what.
Example: alotta students are used to getting American history through the prism of exceptionalism and good vs evil dichotomies, not material facts. The average student is likely to move Left (to whatever degree) merely by telling them what happened without those framings.
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A while ago I promised a thread on what exactly I mean when I accuse leftists of being entirely driven by social proof.
Given that blaming social proof for everything leftists do is my thing, it's worth explaining my model of how leftist net spaces operate! 🧵1/29 (yes srsly)
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It's obviously implicit in the tweet, but I feel like it's worth just explicitly saying that by leftist standards, these are absolutely exactly equivalent, and no leftist would hesitate to say it if it was about anti-trans violence, anti-black violence, or anything else really.
In fairness, they weren't calling for the extermination of Jews, just showing unwavering solidarity to the people who were.
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@DumbGuypod
She's not defending Neon - what she's saying is some punishments or actions against someone are not deserved. She's not comparing herself to Isabel, but saying that there's a general phenomenon that works the same way that occurred to both of them.
I feel that was pretty clear.
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@agraybee
This thread is just more privileging of ingroup specialness solidarity politics with "No the straights will always see you as a freak, don't betray your sisters" to explain the hatred of Pete Buttigieg daring to live a normal, accepted, mainstream life.
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I fucking hate LEFTISTS, I fucking hate leftists bro, I fucking hate LEFTISTS, holy shit, holy shit, just that last little line about "Try Marxism sometime", like I've written enough explaining and justifying why I hate leftists today on The Blog, this speaks for itself.
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One of the fundamental things that made me angriest about leftists, back when I was one, was the fundamental *rejection* of any kind of strategy or coherent attempt to just... take strategy or winning seriously! There was literally *nothing*, and nobody even saw a problem.
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Is there a good reason to be against Somaliland independence? Mogadishu has totally failed to govern, Somaliland has a completely functioning and peaceful government with no Al-Shabaab being held back because nobody will invest in them because legally they’re tied to Mog.
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High school feels pleasantly distant as you get older, until Maths Methods starts fucking trending on Twitter and I have to remember that VCE is real and I am forcibly regressed to the age of 18 and waiting to use the microwave in the common room.
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Nobody is more smugly incorrect and impervious to actual evidence and reasoning than a left leaning internet kid saying that Corporations Control Everything.
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If I'm being painfully honest, in my heart of hearts, I have taken a very genuine joy in one part of the war, and it's the way that every right wing account offers themselves up to be proven to be fucking morons in real time, with takes that are disproven in literally hours.
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@LaurenS91868245
@SevaUT
I honestly think that's a naive view until we see greater Russian dissent in general. Putin probably has been unironically popular for most of his run, and it might be the only thing that'd dint that is not the Orwellian control, but the economic impact.
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@Noahpinion
Xi Jinping pulls Li Keqiang into the room to excitedly tell him about this "Modern Monetary Theory" he heard about on Weibo.
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I made a better one a few years ago on r/neoliberal.
This is the single greatest NIMBY image ever produced because the entire thing hinges on "increasing the economic activity of the area" being perceived as a negative
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One of the quote tweets calls this "the most zoomer post to ever exist", which is a perfect example of how Gen Z is not real. This is how ALL the Tumblr millenials acted circa 2013 onward. All Gen Z traits are basically just Tumblr traits, but actually visible to the mainstream.
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@Conblob
The majority of people who say this don't actually think it involves relocation because they think those homes are everywhere and just being sat on by greedy landlords.
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@Noahpinion
I'm not as sure, because wokeness is really entirely about Vibes, and whether it Feels Like something is from the wrong tribe. FFVII doesn't have much Tribesmell. If you can sense that A Young Sensitive College Student Played A Role In This Choice, then that will reliably
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Coming up with stupid ideas to alleviate a sense of powerlessness is a luxury cope reserved for the people who know they don't have to worry about anyone trying to implement those ideas. Why is travelling to a national park any better than travelling to a blue state?
I can't believe this has to be explained to functioning adults, but no you can't build a medical facility in a national park. They need plumbing and electricity and access to roads and other things you can't build in national parks because that would defeat their purpose.
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This is borderline explicit leftist belief though. I’ve seen the posts.
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@IrrationalChad
@KnowNothingTV
@HunterAA6
They say Thought Slime murdered the high king… with his voice! Shouted him apart!
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That tweet is a perfect example of how viral misinformation spreads in leftist circles. It starts with a simple, literal statement, it's followed up by memes and jokes about "Biden wants us dysphoric", then "Oh the tweet was wrong, but still". But my favourite is the fourth one:
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I’ve just realized something. What we should be doing with EVERY leftist who advocates for political violence and that the system is unsalvageable is “Why do you want a civil war?” And nothing else. They mostly have not internalized this is the only outcome of their posts.
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They do it for literally exactly the same reason: They don't believe in it.
Why do you guys treat economic data like right wingers treat a climate study?
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This is why I basically insist leftism has to be treated as an issue that liberals are willing to fight on, as like a key cultural issue. We need to reject leftists out of normal social spaces the way they've been doing with normal people.
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@maybe_dan_
That’s absolutely unrelated. Believing America shouldn’t exist is normal leftism. Believing one ridiculous thing doesn’t mean believing all ridiculous things. Leftists don’t care about Christmas.
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@octagonPerfect
@RealTimeWWII
No, it's really really easy to argue that the Nazis were worse.
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Basically to 🧵it, leftist epistemology works on the following premises.
1) High level authoritative leftists have already sorted out and proven decisively The Truth of all leftist positions (in the same way regular liberals might look at, say, climate scientists).
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This is basically true about Australia too to be tbh.
Why America is the greatest country:
“almost any Dane, with the right will & gumption, could make it in America. Even become American. But almost no American, regardless of their honest intentions to integrate, will ever be able to truly become a Dane in the eyes of the Danish.”
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These were the kinds of posts that made me stop being a leftist.
This is the leftist version of climate change denial
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There are certain phrases that hack our social perception and make us see someone’s opinion not as just a random opinion, but as the culmination of thorough and painful research, and arguments over it. One of them is “Do people understand that…” This is how social proof works.
Do people understand all the staffing shortages and supply issues are due to millions of people dying and becoming disabled? And that people are still dying and being disabled so none of that will get better anytime soon? This is the “normal” y’all wanted to rush back to?
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Leftism is not a political ideology. Communism, Socialism, and Anarchism are ideologies, Leftism is a superset of these - its a political subculture, not an ideology. It has social norms, not beliefs.
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