@faniaoz
I appreciate your usually measured comments. But I don't think this exercise is helpful to your cause. Where I live in London [not on social media] there is no evidence that we hate every single Israeli. We find the Israeli response in Gaza disproportionate as I think you do?
@JonathanTod_TFP
Please wake up Brit public. Public school, to which I and Hunt were both sent, doesn't teach you integrity. It teaches entitlement, divide & rule, and how to plunder at home & [formerly] abroad. Rich elite protects the rich elite. Simples.
@suzannezeedyk
@nickduffell
@axrenton
@AndyGJBurge
@OwenJones84
True. But for so many "socialism" seems to be a secular religion one believes in rather than a practical politics of the common good. Green. Mixed. Economy.
@naomicfisher
Perhaps it's because state schooling was first introduced to produce factory fodder & it's not changed that much. Boarding schools produce fodder for the ruling elite. Without a wider culture of social democracy there won't be much change.
@suzannezeedyk
@NMPsychologist
Good article by relational psychotherapist debunks idea tht Public Schools have essentially changed. Still remove kids from home love, they produce insecure characters who as leaders damage Brit society.
@suzannezeedyk
@axrenton
@robertverkaik1
@PEPForum
@theAliceRoberts
The NHS was part of a post-WWII political project for *Social Democracy*. The IEA has been working away for decades to undermine this project & is close to succeeding. Where is the coherent counter force for we social democrats fit for global 21st C?
@garykent
@dai_alectic
@naomicfisher
This is enculturation of harsh neoliberal culture which has its precursors in the harsh boarding schools of the elite. The problem extends well beyond schools. We need to rediscover a caring social democracy with a nurturing pedagogy. Finland has much to teach.
@suzannezeedyk
Just read "The Unstoppable Rise of Petty Bourgeoisie" by Dan Evans. Strongly recommend to all who want to understand how Thatcher paved way for current neoliberal hegemony. The way back to social democracy won't be easy: 1st understand the sh*t we're in.
@joycemcm
@dai_alectic
@LBC
@mrjamesob
Simple. Because democratic values are intrinsically valuable & not dependent on how your opponent behaves. This doesn't rule out legitimate self-defense. It does rule out unbridled revenge.
@Peston
It is not "pretty offensive" it is disgusting. I'm no fan of Starmer, my politics are more radical & green, but to vilify opponents in this way is beyond the pale of decency. The ex-PM descends into the gutter.
@suzannezeedyk
@joycemcm
@williamnhutton
@AndyGJBurge
@RobertJenrick
Why take
@RobertJenrickMP
seriously. There is no evidence he or Tories represent majority of people in UK. UK has always been a multinational/cultural state; there are no monolithic "British" values. Why was Kuennsberg interviewing him?
@bbclaurak
@implausibleblog
Just watched for the 1st time in years. Wow, George M really laid into small boats/Rwanda & Bruce could only find 3 Tories in sort of support & even they were critical. Something in the Zeitgeist has changed since I last dropped in...
@joycemcm
@NeilMackay
Predictable, just heard Sarah Montague [aka Lady Brooke] more or less promoting private health on
@BBCWorldatOne
- "given the pressures on the NHS". No analysis of where such pressures came from. BBC increasingly mouthpiece of neoliberals. What a contrast with
@lokiscottishrap
@WritesBright
I think most intelligent observers know the international oligarchy runs the show. They play one national tax rate off against another for investment. It will take a brave, united & caring country to stand against this blackmail.
@lokiscottishrap
@suzannezeedyk
@RichardJMurphy
@alon_mizrahi
Please remember that the invasion of America was part of the Brit & wider European colonial enterprise. Sanctioned by the Papal Edict of 1493 allowing any Xian monarch [Spain, Portugal etc] to conquer & claim non-Xian territory.
@faniaoz
I wonder if it is helpful to frame it like this, Fania? It seems to an outsider like me as though you are claiming the moral high ground in the mutual tragedy. How did you expect the Palestinians to react in 1947-8?
@gershonbaskin
@implausibleblog
He's playing the British nationalist card but has no idea of the complexity of "Britishness", nor the fact that the UK has always been a multinational/cultural state. Try Scotland, Wales and Cornwall...
@cspencer1508
Those of us who've been exposing the damage boarding does, especially early, are extremely grateful for your brave book. The regimes have undoubtedly improved, but as you rightly recognise no institution can provide *motherly love*. Time for a minimum age.
@PiersCross1
@naomicfisher
Schools are enculturing agents of society. Perhaps more obvious in elite boarding schools [I went]. Schools reflect dominant ethos - a harsh world of competitive neoliberalism. We need wider environment of social democracy. Positionality: it's not just schools.
@suzannezeedyk
@faniaoz
Thanks. It's not fine to punish all Israelis - I don't. But I think the balance of sympathy lies with the Palestinians because the outside world sees the great imbalance of power between the Israeli state & the Palestinian "authorities". The IDF has visibly decimated Gaza.
@photon_barrier
@RoeGraceM
As a self-dx'd complex trauma survivor [recognised by WHO 2019 but not yet DSM-5] I'd say that is the beginning of wisdom. I survived gross neglect, abuse and years of lousy psychoanalysis. Why shouldn't I know more than the average psych/therapist?
@amandaT94594405
@WritesBright
The whole point of Royalty now is as a diversionary fairy tale sold by the popular media. It's the circus especially when there's not much bread. If the Royals had any sense they'd close down the charade. Perhaps that's what H&M are doing...
@cspencer1508
Took me years to recognise that I was abused by the school Dr at my prep school when he did an anal examination without a glove. These things take time to fully sink in. One reason why Charles' book is so helpful. We should now outlaw <13 boarding on precaution.
@suzannezeedyk
@ecomarxi
Zionism is a nationalist ideology. Nationalist ideology tends towards ethnic/religious exclusivity, ethnic cleansing & fascism; also true of Arab nationalism. Most nationalism has no place for civic pluralism. It's a product of 19th C Europe "blood & soil", should return there.
@GeorgeMonbiot
Well done George - I watched bcz of you. I think the fact you were invited is a sign of the times. Even thought Bruce was quite friendly. I think Mercer must have been really rattled by the lack of audience support for Rwanda policy & oil/gas. Looks like Sunak is toast...
@Jonathan_K_Cook
The Guardian is lost in liberal Home Counties middle-classery. It is "culturally" othering without even realising it. Stopped reading several years back [except John Crace 🙂👏].
Liz Truss-IEA meetings were removed from the Transparency register & marked *private*. IEA DG Mark Littlewood used the "we've been friends for years" excuse, which isn't an excuse if one of you is UK TradeSec & other heads a ThinkTank trying to influence Govt policy 1/
@ori_goldberg
The price of extreme nationalism, I'm afraid. I worked on the N Ireland peace process. The Belfast Agreement was called "the one for slow learners". Yes, so much blood & treasure wasted unnecessarily - human suffering immeasurable. 😢💔
@faniaoz
@AmiDar
@stephenlmoses
@alon_mizrahi
It was Pres Wilson who set the nationalist hare running & hadn't a clue about the consequences. Certainly self-determination was never practised for the indigenous of the USA - the original settler state...the chickens come home.
@suzannezeedyk
Find this very disturbing - 2m views. I also find a TV programme called "Secret Life of 4-Year-Olds" disturbing. How can such children consent to having their privacy invaded - is it not a kind of violation, an abuse? Don't we need protocols around how kids are exposed on media?
@overlandertheb1
The Nordic Council is an interesting supranational body for co-operation which provided a model for the British-Irish Council [I did some of the intellectual/research work]. Both may have some relevance to the resolution of the Palestine/Israel conflict.
@faniaoz
@AmiDar
@natalyanderson
I suggest the insights & theories of Dr Bowlby, psychiatrist, psychologist and psychoanalyst might be of help. He summed this as Attachment Theory & observed that close contact with primary caregiver [usually mother] was crucial for optimal development.
@AaronOdysseus
@yousefiaa
@faniaoz
@amanpour
@afalkhatib
The Palestine/Israel situation is sui generis. It will require its own solution & removal of most of the WB settlements. It will need the replacement of Likud & Hamas. It will require external guarantors. I was involved in N Ireland peace process, it took 20+ years.
@garykent
@mejessop
Get some relief: watch the next episode of Darren McGarvey's sparkling series "The State We're In" - he's in Finland next where they doo education v differently:
@lokiscottishrap
@suzannezeedyk
@OxfordDiplomat
Simply unbearably appalling. Children pay the price because adults don't know how to settle their group differences except through violence...
@AmiDar
@implausibleblog
@PaulCoxComedy
It was obvious it would be one-sided. I simply didn't watch. Has not the programme precluded a fair trial [if there is one]? Why are journalists allowed to act like this?
@MarkOosterveen
Hi Mark. It looks like we both went to Eastbourne College. I was in School House [1960-64] but Pennell rings a bell. Some of us have escaped, incl Eddie Izzard. Wonder when you were there?
@suzannezeedyk
@danielgoyal
He comes from a social class of damaged but v powerful people. Damaged by detached families & boarding school. I come for there too [but failed the power test]. They elite cover for each other: Cameron, Johnson, Hunt, Sunak...Jonathan Harmsworth, Ch Daily Mail, Gordonstoun etc
@naomicfisher
@_MissingTheMark
Education is *enculturing* agent of society. We live in a society where Tory neoliberal individualism & competition rules. The Academies were Gove's means to this end + Ofsted. Change will require a reinvention of caring social democracy, not just VAT on priv ed.
@schooltruth
@edwinhayward
Yes, but someone needs to come up with a detailed plan to turn them into not-for-profits as in Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
@northernmnkey
@AdamBienkov
As author Musa Okwonga, in ex-Eton memoir, said: "Boys don't learn shamelessness at Eton, it is where they perfect it."
@Okwonga
@axrenton
@sfrantzman
Netanyahu's strategy has always been permanent instability=mowing the grass. It will go on until the cost is too high, internally, externally or combined. Exhaustion. Getting close?
@gershonbaskin
@Peston
This is the sort of journalistic posing I really dislike. It is politics as a media game. It colludes with politics simply as a war of manoeuvre bereft of any values. No wonder they so often swap places.
@redhistorian
Well, if you go to Eton and become PM you become entitled and arrogant. Why do we take this institution seriously? It is well past its sell-by-date.
@suzannezeedyk
@axrenton
@LindaHeyworth4
Streeting shows absolutely no understanding of public service & its ethos, which motivated Bevan. It is NOT driven by the profit-motive, which is what "pirvate" signifies. He has sold out to neoliberals. What's the point of Labour?*Sigh*
@suzannezeedyk
@joycemcm
@NeilMackay
@Sonnet_Lumiere
It's an unholy alliance of RW media & some RW politicos. I think that is becoming more & more obvious. I consume less & less of that media...
@gershonbaskin
I was involved in the Brit-Irish peace process for years. Even in that much smaller conflagration the trauma was massive & rumbles on. I saw it coming. It is indescribably sad for both sides. Take care. 💔🙏
@faniaoz
@afalkhatib
@AmiDar
@supertanskiii
RB seems a nasty piece of work. But I have to ask why this is being sensationalised and promoted at this particular juncture. It seems that 10,000+ people have "died" in Derna, Libya - aided it seems by Libya's destruction by the "West". Where's in-depth analysis C4?
@joycemcm
@NMPsychologist
@naomicfisher
@suzannezeedyk
Thanks, Naomi [Psych]. I have become more & more convinced that our pedagogic [& penal] institutions are moulded by the cultures that underpin. At one time there was a vision of a social, caring demcoracy. Today we seem reduced to markets & consumerism while the planet burns...
@shinybluedress
This is part of privatisation of NHS by stealth. It is owned by Continuum Health LTD. The government has introduced these private bodies between the patient and the GP. The receptionist has been reduced to a cog in the wheel. If close enough best to book at GP practice.
@SpencerJJoseph
@faniaoz
@gershonbaskin
The problem is that this sort of information is used to fuel the never ending blame game. For several years I was involved with N Ireland peace process. The way out of the morass involved a suspension of blame & a recognition of mutual suffering & destruction.
@silverrich39
It's not just the bias. For me it's more the middle-class tone and quiet superiority of Bruce, Montague, Dyamond & Wark et al [Vic Derbyshire excepted]. The cultural exclusion is massive.
@BBCNews
@BBCNewsnight
@vicderbyshire
@tykestakeonit
It's Keir BTW - named after Keir Hardie, Scottish trade unionist and a founder of the British Labour party. His father was a tool maker, his wife works for the NHS.
@suzannezeedyk
@joycemcm
@AndyGJBurge
@thenewcons
You may be looking in wrong place for origins of "culture of cruelty". Its font is boarding school. The present lot lack even "noblesse oblige". I came from the posh & have been examining for last 20 yrs. My article abt gp complex trauma:
@suzannezeedyk
@naomicfisher
WTF is going on with this coercive education? As an ex-boarder it seems to me that mores of that system are being applied in the state sector. The school as a system of total indoctrination. I presume in England these directives come from DoE?
@suzannezeedyk
@timricketts_
1. You don't mention profits.
2. There'll possibly be more money for rich health consumers and less for the poor.
3. See inequities in 3 tier private education...
@DalrympleWill
Oh dear. Where there's conflict you usually find Brit imperialism in the background. When will our culture face up to it. Thanks for your great work of history & education.
@dai_alectic
Big sigh...Streeting plays a populist card instead of articulating a social democracy fit for our complex times. Is there a Labour shadow minister capable of creative political thinking, with some vision? Not so far as I can see.
@catherinerowett
@northernmnkey
@NeilMackay
@ori_goldberg
That's a heavy load, Ori - I send a hug if I may. But you are a much needed exemplar for your compatriots & powerful elites further afield who should know better. Far too many children have been killed. Ceasefire imperative.
@faniaoz
@AmiDar
@SamanthaTaghoy
His adoptive father, Ernest, ran a fish processing business and his adoptive mother, Christine, was a lab assistant at the University of Aberdeen, later working at the Aberdeen School for the Deaf. [Wiki] Working class?
@BobGeor27574923
The biggest joke is our utilities being sold to still nationally owned utilities in Europe: e.g. EDF and Deutsche Bahn etc. Quite bonkers...