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🚨My Annual Review article "Endogenous State Capacity" is now online. I am grateful for the rich conversations with
@AnnaGBusse
@p_beramendi
Cathy Boone,
@stasavage
, Emily Sellars,
@vcharnysh
, Dann Naseemullah,
@fr_jensenius
,
@MaiOHassan
& Xiuyu Li:
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Disappointed to see that Ashoka University has thrown a junior academic under the bus. Good luck to the university trying to build a world class faculty. If tomorrow the same paper is accepted at a top journal will they tout its findings? Bad news for social science in India.
Ashoka University is dismayed by the speculation and debate around a recent paper by one of its faculty members (Sabyasachi Das, Assistant Professor of Economics) and the university's position on its contents.
As a matter of record, Ashoka University is focused on excellence in…
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I am sorry to say but Tamil Brahmins are at it again. So if you are interested in the colonial history of Brahmin domination/segregation in the Madras Presidency, here are some papers. First, let's begin with Latika Chaudhary's terrific piece on caste and colonial education.
#thread
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We have communicated our decision to withdraw from participating in the Music Academy’s conference 2024 & from presenting our concert on 25 Dec.
We made this decision as the conference would be presided over by TM Krishna.
#madrasmusicacademy
#respectcarnaticmusic
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I have some personnel news to share!
Looking forward to 2⃣0⃣2⃣2⃣ when
@Pavithra_Suri
will be joining us. Learn more about Pavi's research:
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🚨🚨New article alert: Thrilled to see my article with
@notstevenwhite
on "Slavery, Reconstruction, and Bureaucratic Capacity in the American South" is now out at the
@apsrjournal
. Abstract below and Thread:
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We locked down, socially distanced, masked, vaccinated, boosted & cancelled schools & plans just so that when covid got us it would feel like a cold. This is a victory, even if it doesn’t feel like one. Don’t feel guilty because this is what we worked together to make happen.
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A little stunned & deeply honored that my paper with
@notstevenwhite
has won the Heinz I Ealau Award for the best paper published in the APSR in the previous year. Thank you to the committee for recognizing this collaborative effort between an APD and a CP scholar.
🚨🚨New article alert: Thrilled to see my article with
@notstevenwhite
on "Slavery, Reconstruction, and Bureaucratic Capacity in the American South" is now out at the
@apsrjournal
. Abstract below and Thread:
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Some days Twitter is like grad school Comparative Politics seminar discussions and I am here for it. Now refreshing Linz and Cheibub.
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In some cheerful news, I have now officially started at
@LSEGovernment
. I am thrilled to get to know a new community of terrific and inspirational colleagues. I will dearly miss my
@SAISHopkins
community! Now who is going to tell me where and what to eat in London this summer?
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🚨New article alert: thrilled to share that a decade long project in the making with
@fr_jensenius
is now out in print at the JOP. We study why evidence of economic voting is so weak in the developing world using data on state elections in India. A thread!
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The politics of social-status in a historically ranked society is a powerful motivator for right-wing politics. I would say the turning point for India was Mandal. Upper castes have never accepted desegregation and social equality as core values in a democracy.
When the history of this period is written at some future date, an important question would be why India's elite - in terms of wealth, income, social status and education - cheered on the undermining of India's democratic norms and its social fabric through hate and lies.
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Tamil Nadu, one of India’s most developed states with a strong welfare contract and two state-level parties is just about to elect a new Chief Minister called Stalin. Non-India people, welcome to South Indian politics!
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I am going to show this map to my India politics students and ask why Tamil Nadu -- a developed state, with a history of strong welfare dynamics and social mobilization looks like this on "inter-caste" marriage. Any guesses twitter?
@Pavithra_Suri
Every survey shows TN has one of the lowest intercaste marriage rates in india ,that's despite being highly urbanised. If this is not segregation,I don't know what it is. In fact It might be the only state that exported this to urban areas
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A key idea behind attack on the election manipulation paper is that political economy research is "captured" by ideological actors. But pol econ loves to "poke the bear " and study the underlying causes of economic or political dysfunction. A thread
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The Sunak government saw stagnant GDP growth & decided the best way to solve their problems is to butcher high skilled legal immigration through high visa costs. Goodbye UK academia. They are banking on an inelastic curve because they think orgs will absorb the costs. LOL.
Currently, someone applying for a 2.5 year spouse visa with their two children has to pay £10,000 in visa fees.
Under the new proposal, this would be a MIND BLOWING £22,000. For just 2.5 years. That they’ll have to extend once and then make a settlement application.
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I am absolutely thrilled to hear that my “BJP paper” has won this award. Thank you CPS editors! I am so grateful to
@fr_jensenius
for her elections data that made it possible for me to merge my 1931 taluk census and study how status, caste and history shaped voting after Mandal.
This year board members voted Editorial Board Best Paper to
@Pavithra_Suri
's (JHU) "When Do the Poor Vote for the Right Wing and Why: Status Hierarchy and Vote Choice in the Indian States." Argument relevant x-contexts, focuses on x-class status threats.
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🚨🚨🚨 I am currently working on an article on Endogenous State Capacity. Xiuyu Li (soon to be a PhD at NYU Politics!) and I created this spreadsheet on state capacity articles published in 9 polsci journals 2012-2021. Tell us if we missed something:
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When we think of state capacity we imagine it as a sticky slow-moving measure of a state’s ability to meet its goals. I wrote about how new HPE research is asking us to take seriously the idea that state capacity can be built or weakened in the short run:
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census of India began in 1872 and has been done every decade since. In my work I use 1872, 1901, 1921, 1931, 1971 & 2001 census. It’s invaluable snapshot of India’s social & economic dev. It’s not normal that the 2021 census is postponed. Information capacity is being weakened
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If it is a tweet then it is official! Thank you APSA! We are chuffed ☺️
Pavithra Suryanarayan and Steven White Receive the 2022 Heinz I. Eulau Award, American Political Science Review
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The controversy around TM Krishna is a long standing one.. what domains are truly Brahmin if everyone can access them? Integration is a deep rooted fear because segregation guards rank. If you allow "others" to access the goods associated with rank, the rank loses meaning.
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🚨My paper with the amazing
@kimulikasara
was just published in the Journal of Politics. Kimuli and I ask why do the rich and poor support different parties in some places? We argue that class-voting is more likely to occur where states can tax the income/assets of the wealthy.
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I am happy to share the news that my dissertation "Hollowing out the state" has won the Mancur Olson Best Dissertation Award in Political Economy APSA 2018. Grateful to the guidance of advisors
@isabelaanda
, Vicky Murillo, John Huber, Pradeep Chhibber and Irza Katznelson
#waks
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🚨New paper alert! In a new paper
@rchaurey
,
@aaggarwal
& I study the political ramifications of a very unique episode in Colonial Indian history: the emigration of indentured labor from India to British colonies after the abolition of slavery:
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I couldn't let that dig by
@mattyglesias
slide. So I wrote a post about state capacity, & what recent innovations in historical political economy can tell us about the concept and its measures. Shoutouts to
@benwansell
@abbey_st
& the many scholars who keep pushing the envelope!
State capacity: a useful concept or meaningless pablum?
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@NateSilver538
Hi Nate, which of these agenda items do you think restricts freedom? Please be specific. We are keen to know.
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🚨New article alert! So thrilled that this collective endeavor on "Rethinking the study of electoral politics" using India as the illustrative case is now out in print at Perspectives. I learnt so much from my colleagues in writing this. A thread!:
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Pro tip: while your helpful female colleagues appreciate you thanking them in your acknowledgments, they will be even more grateful to just be cited.
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Very grateful for this comment. Yes! In the Madras Presidency, Brahmins were a small minority (<5%). Yet they were 94% of deputy collectors, 59% of tehsildars, 80% of the public works dept, 80% of the education department in 1917.
@Pavithra_Suri
Brahmins are like 5 percent???
Lol
American academia is totally fraud Data colada type stuff going on here
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She finds something extraordinary in early 20th century India -- "Although primary school enrolment was low in British India, secondary school enrolment was comparable to developed countries." Why? Brahmin elites underinvested in primary & over in sec.
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I gave a talk in political economy at Chicago and managed to get through to the end of my presentation. They even gave me three extra mins to wrap things up. And I got this to show for it! Thanks
@AdamZelizer
@LuisRMartinezA
@eminedeniz_for
@aeggers
@sgehlbach
for a great visit!
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A female, Black and Tamil Brahmin candidate. I am here to for all the niche takes on the intersection of race, caste, sub-nationalism, gender and politics.
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So on the whole, what were are observing as protests from these musicians is very much in keeping with a a high rank group's response to steady integration over one 100 years. It should hearten us all that this is happening-- backlash happens when we take steps forward. Onwards.
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I spoke to the NYT's Interpreter
@amandataub
about state capacity and subnational responses in India, and why Kerala and Tamilnadu managed to flatten the curve. You can read it here!
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Today in Broadstreet I argue that America's politicians should take their cues from 19th century Europe and move to a PR system to solve their trilemma- a fractured right, geographic imbalances and intra-party cohesion:
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New paper draft: "Status politics hollows out the state: evidence from Colonial India." This is a distillation of multiple book chapters. It shows incumbent elites weakened tax capacity to protect social rank. If you cannot tax, you cannot integrate!
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A new STATA meme just dropped.
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Thrilled to learn that my paper with
@nikhargaikwad
has been awarded APSA’s Franklin L. Burdette/Pi Sigma Alpha Award for the best paper presented at the previous year's annual meeting. Let us tell you a little bit about the paper! (available here: ) 1/7
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When you almost miss the official tweet promoting your article because of the wrong Twitter handle 😅. So here you go!
Looking at the post-Civil War American South,
@pavithrasuri
&
@notstevenwhite
find that elites built cross-class coalitions to limit redistributive taxation where whites sought to protect their racial status.
#APSR
#polisciresearch
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New post: come for the vintage Bollywood poster and stay for a discussion of what we have learnt about land-tenure systems in India since Banerjee and Iyer. Features exciting new work by
@AlexanderMkLee
and
@AjayVerghese
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TM Krishna made the cardinal sin of invoking the most fiery of desegregationists India has had-- Periyar. In recent times I have found Matthew Baxter's dissertation and papers on Periyar, Gandhi and Ambedkar most useful:
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The tactics they used were two-fold. First, as her essay shows, their role as district board elites was really critical in directing state resources in Colonial India. But importantly they also constantly challenged the integration efforts of classrooms:
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The political ramifications of integration? Historically brahmin dominated constituencies moved to the BJP in state elections after Mandal. Poor brahmins are more anti-welfare in Brahmin dominated areas. Integration turns high-rank groups anti-welfare:
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A lot of dunking on lit reviews on this site -- but I want you to know I *adore* your lit review. I read your paper/book chapter which you educated me on the field & took me to the next paper & book, the tangential footnote & annoying endnote. Thank you for your lit review.
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At the cusp of losing bureaucratic power- brahmins shift their friendly attitudes towards the colonial state-- they turn hostile, anti-taxation and anti-bureaucratic after Montague-Chelmsford reforms are announced in 1917, as I show here:
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It's been heartbreaking to read a continuous stream of personal stories about abortions, ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, harrowing child birth, & maternal deaths. We should not have to relive these traumas or justify our choices for people to take our humanity seriously 💔
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I study elections and state capacity in India, and my cautious opinion is that this is what political scientists call horse manure.
We have long lines for voting for the same reason we have long lines for major concerts: it's a rare event for which demand occurs all at once.
This is why lines are worst in dense areas and poor areas--the only way to alleviate the queues is through massive overcapacity ...
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A remarkable tweet. This is not how peer review works. The paper in question has been written to withstand replication. It has been read by peer economists, likely been thru multiple drafts, & will go thru a double blind peer review. “These people” ARE constantly scrutinized.
It’s fascinating to see these people cry out in victimhood if they get the slightest democratic scrutiny for their “social science” work. They give away the game, which is that they want authoritative decision making to be the sole playground of the tiny, mediocre Shuddho elite
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The Economist wrote about
@kimulikasara
and my work on turnout inequality. This is definitely very exciting! You can read about it here:
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I live in NYC and the virus has killed so many of my city's residents. I am no stranger to the horrors it can inflict. And yet today has been the most traumatic day I have experienced this cursed year. The scale of the human tragedy in India is immense and only just beginning.
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I have a joke about institutions but Acemoglu likely already made it 😭😩.
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Yes! This brilliant AEJ: Applied by
@fr_jensenius
. It studies the effects of political quotas on Scheduled Caste developmental outcomes & finds no discernible difference between reserved & unreserved electoral districts over 30 years. Why? Political parties & plurality rules.
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Dear parties, voting, elections and democracy scholars working on India: do not tout your research findings until you get them peer reviewed. The online troll army plus the current political context requires vigilance. Your university might not have your back.
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Waking up to the news that Texas has a near total ban on abortion. Women have 2 WEEKS from the time of a missed period. A week or two is when most women begin to suspect something is off. By then they have missed the window to make a decision. It's terrifying. Incomprehensible.
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I return to how Historical Political Economy is pushing the field of state capacity by putting *politics* firmly back into the study of state building. Watch out for works by
@fgarfiasr
Yusuf Magiya, Peng Peng, Ruei Xue Jia and yours truly.
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It's so unfair that men with tenure are being asked not to sleep with undergads. Who could they possibly be replaced with? It's not like we have a glut of incredible talent that can't find academic jobs. So have no choice but to keep on staff academics who cant follow basic rules
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A fantastic 1st annual EMPESA (European Meeting on the Poltical Economy of South Asia). Hopefully we will be doing this in Naples in 2024. Phenomenal papers & even more fabulous attendees. Will miss you all! Until next time! Thank you
@SimonChauchard
for making this happen!
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The interesting finding here is the connection between slave-holding wealth & CAPITAL investments in Britain. From Barrington Moore to Lipset to Acemoglu we connect factory floors/industry to democratizaton. So basically British liberal democracy was made possible by slave wealth
Big paper on a big topic, by some of the best in the business...
@ReddingEcon
@joachim_voth
@StephanHeblich
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Groups “hollow out” state capacity in anticipation of losing political power. They do so to limit future redistribution. It is more likely when groups fear not just redistribution but the state’s ability to undertake social integration. State capacity is endogenous in short-run.
If you are working on a nonfiction book right now, can you state the core argument in one tweet?
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TN has almost no UC (2%) & ST (1%). Which means any intercaste marriage is between OBC and SC. This suggests 1) we need to unpack intra-OBC marriages (jati-level analysis) and 2) look at one simple measure- willingness to marry SCs across Indian states as a comparative measure
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Lots of unexpected support today from academics for the affirmative action judgement. Likely because many don’t understand why a casteist society is fundamentally different than a class based one. America is a funny one - racial caste system overlaid with robust immigration
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Looking at the proofs for "Endogenous State Capacity." I haven't shared much here lately, but hoping to get this out into the twitter world because I have learnt a great deal from many of you about this topic.
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“External Validity” — turns out when you study India, and can explain something about the politics of over a billion people, you don’t need to prepare for the “but what does this mean beyond the Indian case”
What concept in your field did you think was super important when you first heard its name, but later realized is typically irrelevant.
I’ll go first: heteroskedasticity.
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I paid approx £12K pounds for my partner and kids to move to the UK for 3 year NHS fee. I was unprepared for this when the process happened because it’s not something you are really explained when you take the job. Now imagine that being double. we wld not have come.
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Usual twitter: Ahhh! It's a coup!! What's happening?!! Send help!!
Econ twitter: Shit, I didn't get any work done today. Can't code with this mayhem.
Polisci twitter: Well actually, what we are seeing doesn't fit the definition of a coup. As Naunihal (2014) notes...
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Phenomenal paper on how violence against women laws can change attitudes and norms in a society. A much needed dose of optimism today. Congrats and thank you
@fr_jensenius
and
@malahtun
!!
#FirstView
#Free
until January 14! Select Expressive Power of Anti-Violence Legislation: Changes in Social Norms on Violence Against Women in Mexico by
@malahtun
and
@fr_jensenius
#polisciresearch
#WomenAlsoKnowStuff
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Exciting news -- Government department to get another colleague soon! Please apply!!
🚨We're hiring an Assistant Professor in Political Science and Public Policy!
The successful candidate should have, or be close to obtaining (by 1 September 2024), a PhD in political science.
Find out more and apply👉
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Today is the day I learnt that my beautiful, revised article which I thought was under the word limit is in fact 3000 words over the limit. Please send wine and an axe.
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How do historic racial & ethnic cleavages continue to shape contemporary attitudes? What lessons can studies on slavery in 1865, and caste inequality in 1930 teach us about the role of identity in today's politics? How do we even study these questions? My new broadstreet post!
Today in Broadstreet
@pavithra_suri
examines the challenges that arise when we attempt to study the legacies of historic ethnic/racial inequalities on contemporary political behavior. Features the works of Latika Chaudhary, Avidit Acharya,
@maya_sen
…
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Love to see the transition from "nobody has a measurement" of state capacity and people can say whatever they want about it to it is useful and nuanced. We at
@BlogBroadstreet
are taking some credit for this epiphany. A thread:
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Thrilled to see my article on the rise of BJP has gone live. Grateful to the amazing editorial team and reviewers at CPS. Please read, share, cite, and of course, criticize!
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Lesson here for academics. A substantial part of our job involves providing “brutally honest” feedback. Let’s focus on the honesty and not the brutality. Especially when anonymous.
a friend once told me people who are brutally honest are far more invested in brutality than they are in honesty.
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It is not obvious why racial/religious/ethnic identity matter to building state capacity. Or at least that’s what we have long assumed. In this post I discuss new HPE research that takes seriously the role of identity in state-building. Part 3 of my posts on state capacity!
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I am thrilled to learn that
@notstevenwhite
and I have won an honourable mention for the Luebbert prize for slavery, reconstruction and bureaucratic capacity in the American South. We are grateful to the committee for this recognition. This one is very special ❤️
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🚨New paper with
@rchaurey
@aaggarwal
on "Franchise expansion and electoral mobilization: How caste and migration shaped India’s colonial politics." We will be at APSA this week on a panel on historical political economy! Join us. Abstract below
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In the absence of a caste census, we don't have much understanding of the relative economic standing of castes/religions in India. Here is a graph of asset ownership by major caste groups generated using jati level data from NES-lokniti survey of 2004, the closest to MMS's speech
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Much pushback here but something tells me my male colleagues rarely get emails that start with “Hey Pavithra, I am considering taking your class, can you send me an updated syllabus.” Casual familiarity is not evenly applied & titles give status to historically underrepresented
Don’t ever start an email to your professor with “Hi [First name]!”
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In graduate school, my advisor and I combined large sample survey data from major Indian states to show that ethnic inequality shaped partisan voting. If we had then used that to say that we had are the first to show the class roots of caste voting, we would have been laughed at.
This is exactly the same discussion that we had before. So I am wrong to have restarted it. I did not say that Piketty *discovered* something new. What he did is to combine the electoral data for a dozen countries to show the cleavages which "polscientists knew that existed".
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If you want a quick two-min explainer on what led to the rise of the BJP in india after 1990, here it is. Spoiler: status politics enables anti-redistributive coalitions. Poor and wealthy voters unite to defend status interests, and protect institutions key to maintaining status.
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Thrilled to share a draft of "Slavery, Reconstruction and Bureaucratic Capacity in the American South." This is a paper written with the terrific
@notstevenwhite
. Comments, criticisms, and questions welcome!
A new draft of "Slavery, Reconstruction, and Bureaucratic Capacity in the American South," my paper with
@Pavithra_Suri
, is now available:
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This week I started contributing to Broadstreet. In my first post, I talk about hollowing out the state and why we should place the Trump government’s efforts to weaken the postal service, USCIS, and the census in historical perspective. Hope you like it!
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Presenting new work showing that change in the caste composition of the bureaucracy shapes upper caste support for redistribution. Using a survey experiment on upper & middle castes in Uttar Pradesh we show upper castes turn anti-redistributive, esp poor UC (with
@SimonChauchard
)
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Speaking of Brahmins, Merchants & vote choice -- a cool finding from a *new* paper with
@fr_jensenius
&
@neerajprsd
- we show that when the occupational basis of jati is stronger, voters are more likely to mobilize by caste, ethnic voting rises, and electoral volatility declines.
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If you haven't been following, the govt. of UP, India's largest state, has detained opposition leaders and effectively placed them under house arrest. Tactics used in Kashmir have now arrived in UP. The government has also restricted entry of Indian citizens from other states.
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Alice Evans is a gem.
Who wrote this article for the Economist on gender??
Outside the West, the world largely comprises patrilocal clans like the Middle East?? Are you serious??
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State capacity nerds, unite! Apparently this was the most read piece on Broadstreet this past year. I am working on a new piece on endogenous state capacity. Send ideas and suggestions. We will be sharing more of our top posts all through summer on Wed:
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Worth noting that in the 50 years since Roe, we have become more obsessed with identification strategies, that R is free while STATA is not, ggplot graphs are awesome & we are less likely to get an academic job after PhD. Also, what on earth does any of this have to do with Roe?
Worth noting that in the 50 yrs since Roe, men have become less likely to find a spouse, less likely father kids or live with the kids they father, and less likely to participate in the workforce.
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LOL Wordle really leaning into its British colonial roots today.
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fascinating new paper on how de-segregation induces cross-class cooperation-- middle classes align with the poor to seek greater investments into public goods. while we have long considered racial/ethnic diversity to weaken public goods, the channel it runs through is spatial!
Excited to share my new paper now
@apsrjournal
:
I show that segregation encourages the privatization of urban services. Conversely, integrated cities produce intergroup externalities that align the middle class w/ the poor in coalitions for public goods 🧵
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The article is 5 years in the making and started as a conversation between a comparativist and an APD scholar in Ira Katznelson's class on why caste and race might generate similar impulses in politics because of the salience of status in vertical systems of social organization.
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Thank you to the APSA democracy & autocracy best paper committee for the honorable mention.
@notstevenwhite
and I are very grateful for the encouragement. Congratulations to
@aspaglayan
@amycatalinac
&
@LuciaMotoliniaC
!! Honored to be in your company!!!
The committee would also like to recognize two articles for honorable mention:
@Pavithra_Suri
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@notstevenwhite
, “Slavery, Reconstruction, and Bureaucratic Capacity in the American South,” American Political Science Review:
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Historically brahmin dominated areas in India till this day 1) show weaker support for redistribution amongst upper castes (particularly poor) and 2) stronger support for the BJP. Sharing the state, it's public goods and contributing to taxes necessitates social integration
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You can more about this research here:
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WHAT AN INSPIRATION: "You think I'm working for you?" she asked him as the scientists around her became uncomfortable. "I'm here to advance science, I'm never, ever, working for you."
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The article is important because it confirms findings from Colonial India that saw a similar period of institutional decline following the enfranchisement of lower castes. 🚨STATUS POLITICS HOLLOWS OUT THE STATE🚨:
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A challenge for studying inter-caste dynamics is to 1) get group size & 2) category right. Caste structure varies dramatically across the states. In TN a super majority (70%) will identify as OBC & higher if we exclude non-hindus. Group structure & size need to be controlled.
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