
Chill Hedgehog
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@EffinMaggie @FondOfBeetles @Parsleymael @eleonorasfalcon @JennaFights4You Do you consider ‘intersex’ to be. - equivalent with DSD.- a subgroup of DSD with specific characteristics.- something different entirely.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 Swyer girls/women don’t produce sperm. They have no testicles.
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@davidcaryhart @james_e_b_ @natachakennedy @wesstreeting @Keir_Starmer Actually very relevant to anyone who understands academic publishing.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 Their developmental pathway (female) is part of the genotype, which is established at conception. So they are female.
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@DaRillionaire @Riley_Gaines_ With zero female reproductive organs? Just how confused are you?.
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@moveincircles Workshop about cutting in my daughter’s middle-school lead to some additional outbreaks of cutting. Many such cases.
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In fact, no born female produces any gametes, they’ll all have been produced in utero. What’s up with very basic biological education?.
@whtesde @emmamegmargot @coldblueshark1 @MrCrystalMighty @speakoutsister women past the menopause are not intersex. They just don't produce gametes.
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@zaelefty Great video! It’s remarkable that undescended testes are able to secrete T in male-typical levels (if not even slightly elevated).
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 Their genotype also includes the DSD itself: the inability to develop male. So what’s male here?.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 So a female is male to you because they could have developed male if only they could have, even though they couldn’t ever have.
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@GabCurse @michaelshermer Disorders of sex development aren’t sexes. XXY (Klinefelter’s) and XYY (Jacob’s) affect only males.
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@shastipea @RWMaloneMD The term ‘hermaphrodite’ fell out of use in the medical field for multiple reasons, including that it already has a more specific meaning: a member of a species that uses hermaphroditism to reproduce, which no mammalian does. It was a misnomer for humans.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 The genotype of people with Swyer’s syndrome precludes production of either gamete type.
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@deadendruffian @RealistIdealis3 @jj1173067 @zaelefty @AriDrennen Swyer females have all their reproductive structures develop female and have zero male development. They are female.
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@gaytimes What a salad of nonsense. Female Hyenas don’t have a penis, they have a clitoris. Hermaphroditism isn’t trans. Hermaphroditism still uses 2 sexes. Karyotype isn’t sex.
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@Helenas_world @HonestTruth44 @TerraLindair @NiecyBrambila @KerridwinR @badsophistry If you have OT-DSD then you also started undifferentiated. Ovaries don’t get turned into testicles. Both develop from the bipotential gonad. An undescended testicle is a testicles, not an ovary.
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@OrigenOfSpices @MattyBoySwag143 @cremieuxrecueil Genotype is established at gametal fusion, at that point sex can be predicted with ~ 99.98% accuracy from karyotype (XX, XY). Phenotypic sex is observable at week 12 of gestational age when differentiation is complete.
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@taradinoc @Kaida_B_ @KatieInBoston1 @missedith01 @W0DEHOUSE @bitcoinmiser @JessicaValenti Let’s cut right to the chase: trans women are male because they developed male, and trans has nothing whatsoever to do with any DSD, intersex or not. And what I mean with applying traits is that you’re inevitably put, e.g. genital morphology on a ‘less male’/‘less female’ axis.
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@GenCritThink @heikateryna @missvillainess1 @Makoto_Says @HatzKatzn @AlyssaB42021458 @Spectre__Two__ @ffenics @DianeCarolRoy1 @SortaGodFox @CloverSevenLeaf @EffinMaggie @cmwrawcliffe @Mr_Paul_2022 @9NinetyOneNine @WinnowingWind @CarsonSmit14601 @Qyilldrisstessa @XoxoRoeOneal @ObviousElk @wrensays7 @Seuss420Michael @ChrissieW670936 @SianHerfield @_FlutterGirl @SusyDoes @tonysullybooks @JerryClackson @CelesteLaverty @veritasalways1 @hasitcometothat @legaltweetz @sammerriman_ @GeorgeTakei If you don’t feel a profound, existential sadness about this picture, you don’t get it. This made me cry real tears, and that’s not easy.
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@robynsun_love @wrensays7 @Onionfries73947 @CelataVexata @AxeDeimos @rustynew386 @miss_fjord PCOS isn’t a DSD; it’s an endocrine disorder. This has nothing to do with ‘cisheteronormativity’ (wtf), and everything with it not being congenital and it not being a result of disordered sex development in utero.
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@fortune259 @wrensays7 @guyataplace03 @thecryptomonk @Kapka73 @surreykiwi @EFHutton123 @jk_rowling She wasn’t ‘given’ anything. She *developed* female.
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@Marzipanijah @JSpaz41 @zaelefty It’s also true for humans. If it were the default all way through, Swyer females would develop ovaries.
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@HeterodoxF @FondOfBeetles @RozierHunter That’s absolutely not what she is talking about. You think a developmental biologist would mistake an enlarged clitoris for a penis?.
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@mothmanRT @zaelefty @fawfulfan Genotype is fixed at conception, including any DSDs. Genotype → sex development → sex.
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@DaRillionaire @Riley_Gaines_ There never was a trans thing. This never was about trans. And no, there are no female reproductive organs in 5-ARD.
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@LaLaTallawah @tomri33le @FondOfBeetles @softplayselfie @SexMattersOrg No it can’t be Swyer’s, that would explain nothing. If it’s a DSD it almost certainly is 5-ARD.
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@fortune259 @wrensays7 @guyataplace03 @thecryptomonk @Kapka73 @surreykiwi @EFHutton123 @jk_rowling Her sex was registered as ‘female’ because it *actually is* unambiguously female.
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@JalkanenLaura @onexrd @zaelefty Any advocacy that tries to equate having a disorder with being that disorder is based on outrage.
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@JalkanenLaura @zaelefty Why would you twist words like that?.It’s a sick mind that thinks that people having a disorder are a disorder. And that mind is yours.
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@taradinoc @Kaida_B_ @KatieInBoston1 @missedith01 @W0DEHOUSE @bitcoinmiser @JessicaValenti Now, transsexual/transgender women being male tells us nothing about them being women, however we conceptualise that (by social function/identity, …), just about their sex. But why even bring DSDs into this?.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 How can a congenital birth defect that leads to female development be ‘male’? Because of what would have happened if there was no DSD?. Stil the same question as above.
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@HJoyceGender This here is cited a lot: ‘all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female’.
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@FondOfBeetles @SwipeWright Must have got some advice from someone who knows nothing. It’s the standard argument from ignorance.
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@GenCritThink @missvillainess1 @Makoto_Says @HatzKatzn @AlyssaB42021458 @Spectre__Two__ @ffenics @DianeCarolRoy1 @SortaGodFox @CloverSevenLeaf @EffinMaggie @cmwrawcliffe @Mr_Paul_2022 @9NinetyOneNine @WinnowingWind @CarsonSmit14601 @Qyilldrisstessa @XoxoRoeOneal @ObviousElk @wrensays7 @Seuss420Michael @ChrissieW670936 @SianHerfield @_FlutterGirl @SusyDoes @tonysullybooks @JerryClackson @CelesteLaverty @veritasalways1 @hasitcometothat @legaltweetz @sammerriman_ @GeorgeTakei Because I’m a social animal, and she fits how I, personally, think about ‘woman’. This doesn’t affect you, anyone else, policy, or the natural sciences.
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@baddestopinion @exnihilo393 @GlobeEyeNews Do you think people with such conditions produce another gamete type? An in-between one?.
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I had no idea that @NoCisgender is both an ultra (so, ignorant about biology) and a coward (responding behind blocks). Is something in the water? . It’s concerning that he ever followed me before blocking me for ‘misinformation’ (so, a liar as well).
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@avianeagle @carlow_caoimhe @fracturedlilac This is misinformation. Sex is understood as binary in all ‘advanced’ subdisciplines like evolutionary/developmental/reproductive. XY females are female. ‘intersex’ isn’t a scientific category.
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@DominusClarus @Serenity_Seal @QueenMab87 Developing all female structures all except for ovaries, but not a single male one is a failure of ‘male sex organ development’ to you?. So you think males can become pregnant. You might want to check those assumptions.
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@WStone945 @Nothing77804505 @zaelefty It’s the phenotype *to* produce a gamete type, and, honestly, if they don’t can’t work back from that there is no helping them.
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@surfjaseoz Not when you go around spreading half-truths and full-hate by trying to hurt people who did nothing to you. You talk about biology and DSDs as if you knew about them but talk about affected people in a condescending tone. I’m embarrassed that you thought I was a good follow.
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@fortune259 @wrensays7 @guyataplace03 @thecryptomonk @Kapka73 @surreykiwi @EFHutton123 @jk_rowling all of her reproductive structures are female. None of her reproductive structures are male. Females require a female-typical hormone configuration to be healthy.
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@wrensays7 @youtoastbread @MagzClassical @realahart @PopCrave Is this a joke? That makes zero sense. Why karyotype an unambigous female? Why raise her male?.
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@poiu477 @88Sandholm @buttonslives There is no localised Swyer syndrome. Everyone with Swyer syndrome is female.
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@aninfinitearc1 @zaelefty @ZachWLambert @ChrismasCholo Sex is phenotypical. I don’t know how it can be 2025, and people still don’t know this.
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@fortune259 @jk_rowling @wrensays7 @lord_dopehat @naecotsol @thecryptomonk @surreykiwi @EFHutton123 An archetype is inherently understood as such in society. So it just comes back to female sex stereotypes.
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@notheeboo @TpcurtisTim @CrunchAlias Sex is binary in nature whatever some humans build on top of that.
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@GayLikeKagami @Hereticalturf @yrysbryd @seanieRW @DianaWilde95 @forevershallon @SocialistSauce @Purplewykr @PolicyArtemis @TheGoldenMask5 @bluebirdjam @wallthehero @m_eunuch @brenda_archer @CarsonSmit14601 @LaneyGB80 @RadFemme74 @fear_the_kitten @K60617909 @cecinestpaspipe @Kimberfan76 @ghostoftoast @straycomrade @AnticommieShawn @theklutzydom @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @ostrasyn @Gazbo1990 @Opiumbrella @latsot @LauraDemonista @ThatsMadeMyDay @PersephoneP101 @JosiahL1776 @Dorasalter @CheekyWeeBism @CyberGhostDrake @Gibson_U_Witch @nbrink77 @JIPTranslation @HCMC1975 @KrystalKat84 @Athena71XG @Abby_Lindon @DearRebelAda @Zombie_Jesus_1 @TWAM163 There is also no in-between gamete type.
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@GayLikeKagami @lord_dopehat @wildling_wolf @RadFemme74 @SocialistSauce @WinnowingWind @PolicyArtemis @DarkWiiPlayer @Hereticalturf @Makoto_Says @Pickles7189 @Dorasalter @bluebirdjam @seanieRW @theklutzydom @HCMC1975 @GenderNeutralWC @LauraDemonista @crwarmuth44 @K60617909 @TheGoldenMask5 @BuzzzStryker @Kimberfan76 @yrysbryd @ghostoftoast @shadowmedicpl @fem_mb @AlyssaB42021458 @forevershallon @redfollowsred @brenda_archer @cecinestpaspipe @CarsonSmit14601 @ramendik @badsophistry @latsot @Izmeina666 @Gazbo1990 @Purplewykr @DianaWilde95 @m_eunuch @LaneyGB80 @straycomrade @AnticommieShawn @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @ostrasyn I think one interesting angle here is that transsexuals don’t need activism to the same extent because they don’t need external affirmation for an identity they don’t have.
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@CarsonSmit14601 @SortaGodFox @Jason370449980 @Qyilldrisstessa @9NinetyOneNine @EffinMaggie @WinnowingWind @Heather_pw @GenCritThink @missvillainess1 @somethingamyss @Mr_Paul_2022 @HatzKatzn @Makoto_Says @DianeCarolRoy1 @XoxoRoeOneal @ObviousElk @wrensays7 @Seuss420Michael @ffenics @ChrissieW670936 @SianHerfield @CloverSevenLeaf @_FlutterGirl @SusyDoes @cmwrawcliffe @tonysullybooks @JerryClackson @CelesteLaverty @veritasalways1 @hasitcometothat @legaltweetz @sammerriman_ @GeorgeTakei @theklutzydom @LaneyGB80 Because you’re abrasive and unkind to people to their face for no reason at all. No one here is a policy maker and no one here threatens your privacy or rights. Just treat people like people jeez.
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@yellow_casa @schroeder_k @drumheadberlin XX/XY sind keine Geschlechter. Die Geschlechter sind weiblich/männlich.
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@missvillainess1 @fortune259 @wrensays7 @thecryptomonk @Kapka73 @surreykiwi @EFHutton123 @jk_rowling Which is why I’d think that passmaxxing would be the only way for me. Sweet little lies/pretending wouldn’t do it for me. Activism wouldn’t do it for me because I don’t want people to pretend, and biological arguments wouldn’t do it for me either because I know the limits of that.
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@HatzKatzn @robynsun_love @SianHerfield @wrensays7 @Onionfries73947 @CelataVexata @AxeDeimos @rustynew386 @miss_fjord I’ve had a look at /r/intersex recently. Boy oh boy….
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@PolicyArtemis @latsot @brenda_archer @SocialistSauce @GayLikeKagami @DianaWilde95 @redfollowsred @forevershallon @IHaveOTDSD @seanieRW @badsophistry @Athena71XG @straycomrade @LauraDemonista @yrysbryd @TheGoldenMask5 @LaneyGB80 @RadFemme74 @Kimberfan76 @cecinestpaspipe @Hereticalturf @theklutzydom @ramendik @CarsonSmit14601 @fear_the_kitten @ghostoftoast @Izmeina666 @Gazbo1990 @K60617909 @Purplewykr @bluebirdjam @m_eunuch @AnticommieShawn @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @ostrasyn @Opiumbrella @ThatsMadeMyDay @PersephoneP101 @JosiahL1776 @Dorasalter @CheekyWeeBism @CyberGhostDrake @Gibson_U_Witch @nbrink77 @JIPTranslation @HCMC1975 Brenda’s claim was that there is hate from the GC camp against women who aren’t trans, and I’ve seen it. I’ve seen them called men. I see it almost almost daily. What am I missing?.
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@MomKrill @FondOfBeetles @LoisMcLatch Genotype, including this DSD, is established at conception, so no.
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@wrensays7 @ChrismasCholo @AgnTousignant @MySonIsNotJohn @HillbillyFionn @Marmartk01 @RamBalamm @AsherSummerson @Its_Toad @nbrink77 @Jen_for_life @Bdhital84 @dcffk @melJsaysso @AstrelGelin @RoryWantsToKnow @FFFlash3 @Blue52795 @GojiraStompz @DrUranidiot @OtherSperg @RubyTue70406646 @SuzanneBos43679 @HeIsNotKing @_kaylee222 @FollowingForFu2 @DHartung13 @sonofAbell @Martyrs_Memoir @pooltroof @ZELLKLUMPEN @nix_auto @Chelle98555808 @surphs__upp @ZyghostByChance @crocoppitz @rrriot_kitty @Awright874 @fluffycaramel12 @ingodwetryst @AWULgarity @siany65 @hubbstercat @ReksGivins @Lgoody61 @ImTallBroad @IvyShoots @OctoberFerguson @electronluke @lauriejkane But, who knows, you could have, if you didn’t have the bloody DSD that you bloody have. I’ve been going in circles for an hour here.
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@politicsandwhch @One_Supernova Both developed along the large gamete reproductive pathway. What is it with you and reading?.
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@HatzKatzn @robynsun_love @SianHerfield @wrensays7 @Onionfries73947 @CelataVexata @AxeDeimos @rustynew386 @miss_fjord I totally missed that. So even that claim is in doubt. Just a great person here….
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@moveincircles Teachers: Here’s how some girls release emotional tension, but it’s a bad idea, OK?.Students: … I feel like that sometimes, maybe I should try it, can’t get worse….*pikachuface.jpg*.
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@Adonys21_ Those girls and women have nothing to do with trans. They aren’t female because of their beliefs.
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@Mina__Va @One_Supernova @_Witch_of_Aeaea @FondOfBeetles Müllerian agenesis only affects females: that is people on the Müllerian pathway.
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@Dorasalter @GayLikeKagami @lord_dopehat @theklutzydom @SocialistSauce @wildling_wolf @RadFemme74 @WinnowingWind @PolicyArtemis @DarkWiiPlayer @Hereticalturf @Makoto_Says @Pickles7189 @bluebirdjam @seanieRW @HCMC1975 @GenderNeutralWC @LauraDemonista @crwarmuth44 @K60617909 @TheGoldenMask5 @BuzzzStryker @Kimberfan76 @yrysbryd @ghostoftoast @shadowmedicpl @fem_mb @AlyssaB42021458 @forevershallon @redfollowsred @brenda_archer @cecinestpaspipe @CarsonSmit14601 @ramendik @badsophistry @latsot @Izmeina666 @Gazbo1990 @Purplewykr @DianaWilde95 @m_eunuch @LaneyGB80 @straycomrade @AnticommieShawn @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @RichardDawkins @FondOfBeetles Yeah, that’s patently ridiculous. I’ve seen this from GCs. Fertility potential of infertile people has nothing to do with it. Phenotypic sex is the result of development, not of what didn’t develop.
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@Advocacy_tech @ozsarsparella @Kassandra_Zerb @Honestly__Anna @IHaveOTDSD @Agpenguin01 @thepeacepoet99 If the victim has Swyer’s, the coroner won’t find a single male reproductive organ and all female ones except for ovaries. You see, but you don’t observe.
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@GayLikeKagami @Hereticalturf @yrysbryd @seanieRW @DianaWilde95 @forevershallon @SocialistSauce @Purplewykr @PolicyArtemis @TheGoldenMask5 @bluebirdjam @wallthehero @m_eunuch @brenda_archer @CarsonSmit14601 @LaneyGB80 @RadFemme74 @fear_the_kitten @K60617909 @cecinestpaspipe @Kimberfan76 @ghostoftoast @straycomrade @AnticommieShawn @theklutzydom @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @ostrasyn @Gazbo1990 @Opiumbrella @latsot @LauraDemonista @ThatsMadeMyDay @PersephoneP101 @JosiahL1776 @Dorasalter @CheekyWeeBism @CyberGhostDrake @Gibson_U_Witch @nbrink77 @JIPTranslation @HCMC1975 @KrystalKat84 @Athena71XG @Abby_Lindon @DearRebelAda @Zombie_Jesus_1 @TWAM163 Again, sex is defined as the reproductive phenotype. There is no overlap because we haven’t evolved the phenotype to produce both gamete types simultaneously.
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@shaneblyth @JDVanceNewsX DSD is the clinical term. And ask any developmental biologist, and they’ll explain to you how it’s an impossible presentation.
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@seanieRW @yrysbryd @forevershallon @Hereticalturf @RadFemme74 @straycomrade @BngHotCoffee @CarsonSmit14601 @GayLikeKagami @DianaWilde95 @SocialistSauce @Purplewykr @PolicyArtemis @TheGoldenMask5 @bluebirdjam @m_eunuch @brenda_archer @LaneyGB80 @fear_the_kitten @K60617909 @cecinestpaspipe @Kimberfan76 @ghostoftoast @AnticommieShawn @theklutzydom @IAmBadWolf717 @CptCrckpot @VelvetLandmine @liozh_zai @ostrasyn @Gazbo1990 @Opiumbrella @latsot @LauraDemonista @ThatsMadeMyDay @PersephoneP101 @JosiahL1776 @Dorasalter @CheekyWeeBism @CyberGhostDrake @Gibson_U_Witch @nbrink77 @JIPTranslation @HCMC1975 @KrystalKat84 @Athena71XG @Abby_Lindon @DearRebelAda @Zombie_Jesus_1 ‘evolved purpose’ hurts my brain. Just think in terms of the mechanism of passing on mutation to the next generation and the need to stay compatible with mates, walk through it and you’ll see that ‘purpose’ makes 0 sense. It’s all about selection pressure.
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@LChicaDelAzucar @Kassandra_Zerb @frankinsensible @Bunnybo08262242 @AriDrennen Oh? Kass? Who cares. She might self-describe as such, but thinks that there are women with penises and pregnant men. Also, I’m not a TERF by any stretch of the term.
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