Lakers fan tries to discredit Celtics' titles by posting a pre-shot-clock era clip and arguing that titles from that era shouldn't count. Removing pre-shot clock titles lowers the Lakers' count from 16 to 11 and lowers the Celtics' count from 17 to... still 17.
@lukeisamazing
@LucyXIV
To be clear, that description is from an answerer to the question, not from the asker. (It's like 12th answer down for me but ctrl-f for the name works).
Make no mistake. Golden State has absolutely dominated this game. The officials giving Jokic 18 FTs has made the scoreboard look close, but based on the actual play by both teams, GS has completely outplayed them. Not even close.
- Harden kicks forward into Draymond.
JVG: You gotta protect the players. Give him 3 FTs!
- Kawhi throws Looney out of bounds, breaking his collarbone. Given an and-1.
JVG: Wow, so strong!
- Danny Green hipchecks Klay on a 4Q three, injuring his hamstring.
JVG: I blame Klay.
Most conference finals minutes for a 19-year-old, all-time:
1. Kobe Bryant, 87 min
2. Moses Moody, 39 mins
3. Jonathan Kuminga, 15 mins
Nobody else with more than 5.
Imagine if your starting PF got suspended for a Finals Game just because he got upset that the opponent threw him down and taunted him while refs ignored it. That'd be a gross miscarriage of justice.
To review:
1) The refs escalated a situation by kicking Tristan out for nothing
2) stood and watched while Draymond taunted TT and did nothing
3) Tristan lost cool and is now in danger of missing Game 2 while responding to taunting.
By comparison: Draymond did not grab Rudy and throw punches. Draymond pulled Rudy off of his teammate, but did not injure him or attempt to. This is objectively way less severe than the other incidents.
Breen: "Ball is kicked, that should be a kicked ball!" ...3 by James in transition.
Doris: "That's been the issue for the Warriors, turnovers and transition points".
But like, you understand that that was not a legit turnover, right? The issue there is a blown call, not a TO.
One underappreciated key to the Warriors' success this series: their 37 total turnovers in the Finals were the fewest they've had in *any* 4-game stretch in over a decade.
Holy shit. What a game, what a comeback. Winning in the road, with this many injuries, against a great team with this officiating against them: those three minutes are up there in the pantheon as maybe the best few minutes in GS history.
This is literally the 10th game this season the Warriors have lost by a single point after being screwed out of at least a half dozen on blown calls. No exaggeration. This team should be 29-14 right now. Correct a few of the most egregious calls and they would be.
I love how even in our darkest moments, Cavs fans are here to remind us that even in the one year they did win, we were dominating them in the healthy half of the series, we had more wins than any other team has ever had, and our star had a better season than their star ever had.
Even if the Warriors lose this series against a hobbled Chris Paul, at least it’s not as bad as the time they blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals after winning 73 games with the first unanimous MVP.
JVG insinuating that Klay hurt himself by selling the contact is one of the most insulting things I've heard an announcer say, and said about the least likely target for it. The crew didn't do him favors by showing the worst angle, but still: a man with integrity would apologize.
This is really ugly. The commentary, the crowd reaction, everything. Shameful. The KD play had the excuse of "we just scored a huge basket, that's what they were celebrating", but this is gleefully celebrating an elbow to the face while down 30.
Sounds like Draymond and Steph said "no more 19-year-olds". Have to wonder if this also is why Lee and Bjelica got all the minutes after the main 6 guys; they were the most veteran guys left on the bench.
Most points in a game with 2 or fewer FTA:
1. Klay Thompson, 54, tonight.
2. Klay Thompson, 52, 10/29/18.
3. Stephen Curry, 51, 2/25/16.
#HonestBasketball
Stephen Curry road elimination games in the Kerr era:
2016 G6 @ OKC: 31-10-9, .597 TS%, +12, W
2018 G7 @ HOU: 27-9-10, .614 TS%, +13, W
2019 G5 @ TOR: 31-8-7, .604 TS%, -2, W
2023 G7 @ SAC: 50-8-6, .622 TS%, +25, W
Averages 34.7-8.7-7.5 on .611, 4-0, total of +48.
It's not the story tonight, but: the refs were one-sided enough that the Warriors needed a 20 to 8 3PT disparity to win by 1. An extra 36 points from deep, and they needed every one of them. I know people want new blood at the top, but this is terrible. NBA fans deserve better.
@dezkuma
Or Grayson Allen and Dillon Brooks? This isn't about Jokic getting off easy, the NBA has generally been consistent about these things in a way that the guys frothing at the mouth for a huge Draymond suspension are ignoring.
Suns eating the Warriors' lunch in terms of signing minimum guys. One big reason why: it's way easier to get vets to sign if you can offer them minutes, and GS with 9 established core guys looks way different on that front than Phoenix with 4.
Kevin Durant averaged 28.8 ppg this Finals. The highest TS% ever in a Finals when averaging at least that many points:
1. Kevin Durant, 2017, 35.2 pts, .698 TS%
2. Kevin Durant, 2018, 28.8 pts, .654 TS%
3. Kevin Durant, 2012, 30.6 ppg, .650 TS%
Atrocious officiating this q. Kuminga and Steph have both had to go back up and create a second shot after getting blatantly fouled the first time. The Brown possession is a travel or jump ball 100% of the time, and everyone in the building could see it plain as day.
Kevon Looney is such an elite post defender. He's getting to that Draymond level, where opposing stars keep testing him, and the Warriors are happy to let them do it, because they've seen him shut that down for close to a year now.
If you're wondering why Cavs fans were complaining so much about the previous two games, when missed calls were basically even, it's because they're used to gifts like this once or twice a Finals. 22 1st q FTs in 2017 game 4, Steph fouled out of 2016 G6, Draymond suspended G5.
That stat Breen cited is incredible: Curry has made 76 straight 4th Q and OT FTs in playoff games, Incredible consistency at the end of big games, hasn't missed one since 2015. Curry's longest normal FT streak is 54, for comparison.
For all the talk about how Cousins' move ruined the league, or KD before him: Looney was a
#30
pick, then a FA who GSW legally couldn't offer above the min. McKinnie was a training camp invite. Bell was the 38th pick, sold for cash. Other teams can only blame themselves for that.
Last time the Warriors started the Curry-Klay-Iguodala-Green-Bogut lineup: Game 7 of the 2016 WCF vs OKC. Two of the biggest wins in this run's history.
That is the worst-officiated minute of basketball I've seen in a long time. Five gift points for Harden, then GS gets fouled three times on one possession, no call.
@jbarro
I don't generally believe in retributive justice, but Mitch McConnell deserves an eternal hell of having his every political goal destroyed while he futilely yells "but what about the process?" to an indifferent audience. He's done more to damage it than anyone in today's world.
@NBACouchside
It's really kicked into high gear since the missed call against the Celtics and the accompanying media cycle. They were first before then too, but disparity since has been insane.
For comparison, other efficient guards' best 2P% in a playoff run:
Steph .564
Kobe .532
MJ .540
Magic .567
Nash .567
And JP just had a playoff run at .627. His first step and finishing ability is just special.
@PDChina
This is pretty crazy because cats aren't known to pass the mirror test. I guess the main alternate explanation would be that the cat knows they're looking at something really weird, so they're checking with their owner for whether they should be freaking out?
There's no more fitting end to this series than Draymond Green hitting a three, having it be counted as 2, and that being the title-deciding point. Congrats to Marc Davis on his NBA Championship. He really earned it.
It's seriously time to talk about KD as one of the best Finals performers ever. His career finals averages:
32 ppg on .670 TS%, 55/43/91 splits. All of that while matching up against LeBron James (on both ends).
@drichardbailey
@nba_paint
The "fun fact" is also just not true. Boston has 17 titles. Draymond had 37 points in the series. He scored 20 just in the last two games.
I just feel for KD. He's been balling out all playoffs, really staking his claim as the best player in the world, and then this happens at the worst time. Really hope it's not severe, and his teammates can pick him up so that he can make it back on the floor.
7 and 14 is one of the better outcomes possible. There was a 2.4% chance of GS moving up at all, and 18% chance of Minnesota conveying 4 or 6, but the other ~80% was this outcome or worse. I'll take it.
Warriors without KD basically need monster games from all of their stars, without allowing them to the opponent. Steph and Dray did that every game vs POR. Tonight, Steph had to carry the offense alone, Siakam was incredible, and the officiating skewed it pretty hard for TOR too.
It's kinda nuts how Jae Crowder literally just tackled Draymond in the lane in the middle of a play and both the refs and announcers just ... ignored it. Feels like June 2016.
Omri Casspi made more threes at Oracle in the 2015-16 season as a member of the Kings (12 in two games) than he did in the entire season as a Warrior, home or away (10 total for the season)
I saw about 100x more about protecting the players on here after Hou G1, when Harden sometimes landed in the vicinity of GS players, than I have after this game, when two Warriors got actual injuries as a direct result of uncalled TOR fouls. This crew shapes narrative everywhere.
This season has been a test of resiliency. How do you retain trust in yourself when the record says one thing and the caliber of play on the floor says the opposite? This is a championship-caliber team and would easily be 20-10 right now with an average whistle. Trust in that.
It's been an absolute pleasure watching LeBron play basketball for the past 15 years. He doesn't appear to be near done, he's still the best in the league, but... 15 heavy years. Logically, feels like we should be getting ready for the end. Hope it's not coming just yet.
@orynthiablue
@moxdzn
@TheMMQBL
It's way above the character limit for a tweet and the font is too small. I'm no fan of Shaun King, but this is just a fake tweet.
@ideafaktory
@antoniogm
I know that's the current game. That's like saying the colonies were "whining" about taxation without representation and not understanding the game. They fully understood that the rules of the current game declared them second-class, and they said "fuck this game".
@bballbreakdown
Between that call, and watching the Embiid charge through Smart be confirmed on replay, feels pretty damn clear that there's a different set of rules for GS than for everyone else.