A guide for the perplexed: when encountering ignorance beyond measure, please remember that Sartre got it right, unfortunately nothing has changed, and you have no obligation to indulge it.
From "Anti-Semite and Jew":
@Lexaphus
They're not baseless. It's an ACA/Obamacare problem, at least wrt the Portland study. From same:
"87% consider it important for Israel to exist for the Jewish people, now and in the future."
That's Zionism, even if they won't use the term, and in line with most other studies.
@cmclymer
They have done the rest of us a great favor, tho. Their masks have come off and some of us will never forget this moment or their true faces.
@HeerJeet
That's your takeaway from hard evidence that UNRWA was complicit with Hamas? Not that Hamas or UNRWA are obstacles to peace or internationalism?
This is literally an example of the US in trying to uphold the liberal international order by cutting off corruption & malfeasance.
@JewishWonk
100%
I don't like defending AIPAC, a single issue lobby i disagree with, but it's becoming a dog whistle for the left just as Soros is for the right.
This is a demonstration of the mutating conspiracy theory nature of antisemitism (ex The Israel Lobby) & its horseshoe appeal.
@Raion74_
I get the whole bloodline, head of the table implication here. That part makes sense. It makes sense Rock and Cody are teaming up.
It doesn't make a lick of sense in kayfabe for Cody to give up his spot at Mania.
Thread.
If you're not Jewish and you're deciding:
- what Jewish is or
- who is Jewish or
- which Jews are good or bad or
- how they should be Jewish, then
Please stop and check your priors.
If you don't believe Jews should be able to have politics that differ from yours, that they shouldn't be able to organize, that their communal institutions are fair game for harassment, that there is a nefarious conspiracy shared among Jews,
That is all textbook antisemitism
Unfortunately, this absolutely resonates with my own experience of how antisemitism operates.
This is an absolute must-read about how antisemitism functions.
"True friends of the Jewish people don’t pick which half of the world’s Jews are the good ones and which half are the bad ones, like some sort of anti-Semitic Santa Claus." I wrote about Trump's menacing Rosh Hashana message:
@QueenMab87
This piece is pretty enlightening about BDS' rejectionism & its goal of preventing peace by stopping normalization.
Standing Together is to my left, but their focus is on peaceful coexistence & ending the occupation/blockade/war because they live in Israel & Palestine.
@MazMHussain
It sounds like she's referencing this:
It's hardly BlueAnon to acknowledge hostile foreign actors use mis/dis-info as a means to foment social unrest. There's an InfoWars -> FoxNews -> GOP Electeds pipeline on the right & one is forming on the left.
@ProfDBernstein
Absolutely depraved. SJP (& other group or person with rhetoric like this) should be beyond the pale because they are literally pro-war, pro-terror, and antisemitic.
It's extremely telling that the antizionist left still associates with & actively supports them after this.
Short, smart thread.
Hamas is, and has always been, opposed to peace and normalcy. They derailed Oslo and now seem to have succeeded at stopping Biden's Israel/Saudi/PA normalization deal.
1/Hamas is a genocidal organization. It proved this when it initiated suicide bombings to derail the peace process in the 1990s between Israel and the Palestinians, and it demonstrated it again on 7/10; in 10 hours, it murdered more Jews in a single attack than at any time
💥Netanyahu unilaterally rejected unanimous war cabinet view that IDF should not operate in Rafah as Hamas seemed likely to accept hostage release deal, reveals
@HauserTov
. Opposition war cabinet members Gantz & Eizenkot halted full-bore operation.
@JewishWonk
~>90% of American Jews are Zionist/pro-Israel/support Israel's rt to exist. ~>85% think denying Israel's right to exist is antisemitic.
This is a dissident minority fringe outside the mainstream. Progressive usually call amplifying those voices tokenization. Why not here?
@QueenMab87
Hamas rockets often misfire (iirc something like 1/4) and Hamas often shoots from places like hospitals.
Twitter/X sucks and right now is the fog of war, so I'd wait for confirmation one way or another.
@NYPost_Brazille
^^This. It's also worth noting that Lindor had basically been his normal self after he bottomed out on 5/5 at a 478 (!!!) OPS. From 5/6 onwards, he posted a typical 257/346/446 (118 wRC+) in 258 PA, perfectly in line with his career 116 wRC+ with his usual excellent defense.
A short, sober thread that is worth your time & consideration.
Reality check: Zionism happened in 1948 & Israel is a fact.
That's the starting point in 2024, including for the absolutely necessary work of helping Palestinians achieve their own sovereignty & self-determination
@shadihamid
@BradSherman
Here's WaPo's own reporting of the IDF's data. Difficult to confirm, but not exactly as incredulous as you seem to be?
FWIW, Hamas' own admission was ~6,000 as of a month ago: Obvi, Israel has dealt havy losses since (ex. Shifa)
US Zionism has what I'd call a ACA/Obamacare problem, where the support for what Zionism is reaches a supermajority consensus consist w national polling but the term Zionism doesn't attract the same.
See🧵 below for fun data!
🧵A reminder that claims of "The vast majority of American Jews are Zionists"...are completely baseless. A thread with numbers from the 2 most recent local Jewish population studies that have asked about Zionist self-identification. Most studies haven't asked, but these 2 have:
From the Portland study: "87% consider it important for Israel to exist for the Jewish people, now and in the future."
That's Zionism, even if they won't use the term, & in line with most other studies including national.
@whstancil
My theory: most tankies are essentially culture warriors who accept the basic GOP/FoxNews worldview, but come to very different conclusions on it via online radicalization.
That's why they're particularly venomous & opposed to Dems & esp normie libs (not mods or centrists). 1/2
@PeterBeinart
genuine question: why do you insist on amplifying unrepresentative, fringe voices as "Good" Jews?
I get trying to shift the conversation/the Overton window, this is loaded with a false equivalency.
The Bibi-ists & the Kahanists are obviously awful, but why not amplify Lapid?
@JGreenbergSez
Netanyahu in particular is viewed (fairly, I say) as aligning himself with & having deep ties to the GOP, esp. Trumpists, & the illiberal internationale. His governments have been far-right (ex. Kahanists, judicial coup).
Gantz wouldn't have this baggage. Bennett + Lapid didn't
@TWLadyGrey
This is why I think it makes a point of distinguishing between liberals/socdems & leftists/demsoc.
We’re all progressives, but there really is a difference between liberals & lefties.
@lionel_trolling
Alternatively: the center-right is actually very small, some of them are actually Democrats, & almost all of them have been NeverTrumpers this whole time. When is the last time there was a large centrist + moderately conservative faction in the GOP? 2006? They were gone by 2010.
Fascinating to see, in his endorsement of George Latimer, Mondaire Jones called Norman Finkelstein an antisemite. Finkelstein is virulently anti-Israel, but he's not anti-Jew. He's quite Jewish, and his parents survived the Holocaust.
@ostonox
@JohnFetterman
Genuinely --- isn't it possible, or perhaps likely, that as the party has moved leftward (that screencap is before any of the squad was elected, no?), Fetterman has stayed more or less the same and now finds himself as basically a normie lib in the middle of the party?
@YonahLieberman
@USJewishDems
Genuinely: why would Jewish Dems offer any support to Bowman after this?
The org reps normie Jewish Dems. That's going to be a whole lot closer to Chuck Schumer than it is Norman Finkelstein (who Bowman praised).
SCOOP: In the weeks after Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel, Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) not only publicly cast doubt on reports that Israeli women were raped, but also called those accusations “propaganda,” according to a previously unreported post on TikTok.
WRONG! our anti-Zionist stance, is deeply rooted in religious beliefs, and is fundamentally distinct from political anti-Zionism.
our stance is a principled religious position, and is clearly not a political tool to cover for antisemitic Jew-haters.
@actupny
What smear? She said:
"We are sick and tired of being told and reminded of the events of October 7th. Can I make it plain? I'm going to make it plain. The reality is the people who are the real terrorists are sitting in office right now. Ritchie Torres, you are a terrorist!"
@juliaioffe
Related: please don't cherry pick Jews who will just so happen to say what you want them to say, especially when what you want them to say is a fringe viewpoint amongst the Jewish population at large.
Tl;dr: don't tokenize Jews.
@SaraHirschhorn1
Remember when Butler described Hamas and Hezbollah as part of the Global Left back in 2006?
Butler has walked it back some, issued clarifications, condemned 10/7 initially, but somehow for *some reason what could it possibly be* just keeps on justifying them?
@davidshor
@mattyglesias
TBH, I think this matters more than the failed Kerry Framework (which, IIRC, ultimately failed because of the PA, no?)
Netanyahu went out of his way not just to court Republicans but also to alienate Democrats. It wasn't just his opposition to the Iran deal, but how he did it.
@Aizenberg55
@shadihamid
@BradSherman
It's weird to see a member of
@washingtonpost
's editorial board be this skeptical towards the data.
The IDF's estimate of 11.5-13k (as per WaPo yesterday: ) seems pretty plausible given recent US and Hamas estimates.
See below:
In January, the US estimated ~9,000 Hamas fighters were KIA & another ~11,000 had been wounded.
Hamas' own admission was ~6,000 as of Feb. Obvi, Israel has dealt heavy losses since (ex. Shifa)
13k as of today seems p plausible.
@magi_jay
It's exactly this: It's become apparent that far too much of the Pro-Palestine movement's activism is, in practice, simply antizionist antisemitism riddled with Hamas apologia.
That's a tragedy, because being Palestinians need good support for their own sovereignty & security.
@Vandalay_Inc
This is p interesting!
14% of Jews think the response is too harsh.
~80-90% of US Jews are Zionists.
~85% say antizionism is antisemitism.
Obvi this is just one poll (SSS caveats) but it actually fits the larger trend -- there's a dissident minority and a supermajority.
This is a really sharp thread about the divide between liberals & leftists, their politics, the way it is shaping Jewish politics, and what a path forward might look like.
It is worth your time & consideration.
There's a heated disagreement among liberal Jews on how to approach left wing movements when goals are shared on the environment and economy but not on what is antisemitism and fair criticism of Israel.
Since 10/7 my policy goals remain the same, but my approach has changed. 🧵
It's worth exploring how & why otherwise reasonable, respectable progressives quickly & widely picked up, accepted, & spread the narrative that "ex-IDF used skunk on pro-Palestinian activists". It's how pervasive, structural antisemitism legitimizes conspiracy theory into "fact"
A Jewish student filed a lawsuit on Tuesday against Columbia claiming it went through “biased misconduct proceedings” for their actions at a Jan. 19 protest, at which students allege they were sprayed with a foul-smelling chemical.
To explain the latest Israel news: The current government has agreed to dissolve and call new elections. But rather than the current prime minister Bennett holding office until then, the leader of the other half of the coalition, Yair Lapid, will become caretaker prime minister.
Please read and give your thoughtful consideration to this important piece.
When antisemitism (or any prejudice!) doesn't fit a pre-determined narrative, it's too often ignored or, worse, outright denied. Instead, it needs to be acknowledged and understood.
Last week, two Jews were shot as they left morning prayers in Los Angeles. And yet, the twin attacks received little national attention, which is why you're probably hearing about them for the first time. I wrote about the antisemitism we don't discuss:
@Lexaphus
I hear you! But I think "important for Israel to exist" has a plain meaning and it's used here.
I think it's worth deciphering what US Jews understand "Zionism" to mean in this instance, given our overwhelming support for Israel's right to exist as shown in these studies.
@justicedems
@dccc
Please! please!!! don't make me defend AIPAC but...
Why draw a connection between "candidates beholden to corporate donors" and "working class champions" when this is about Israel-specific litmus tests? 👀
SCOOP: In the weeks after Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel, Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) not only publicly cast doubt on reports that Israeli women were raped, but also called those accusations “propaganda,” according to a previously unreported post on TikTok.
@OliverKamm
@Daniel_Sugarman
@guardian
I noticed multiple pieces by antizionist Jews in the opinion section of the Guardian US edition today.
The paper is going out of its way to tell us who it is and who it is not interested in (the overwhelmingly vast supermajority of Jews, whether in Israel or the Diaspora)
@mattyglesias
2014-15 was the turning point.
- the 2014 war. 1st w a major social media footprint
- The Kerry Framework collapsed.
- 2334 passed the UN
- Kerry speech is blaming Israelis
- Iran deal & bibi's Iran speech @ Congress
- Bibi's racist 2015 elex
- Bibi aligned w Trump/MAGA
1/2
I've written about the NPR uproar and why the framing is all wrong, completely missing the point.
The press should have precisely two biases: pro-truth and pro-democracy. When reality is asymmetric, "balanced" reporting is deception. I explain more here:
@ArnoRosenfeld
The above is an extremely unfair out of context.
Immediately preceding, RAC explicitly calls for humanitarian aid to Palestinians. It's fair and necessary to also discuss Hamas' theft of aid and resources when discussing the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
@TrevorDame
It's wild that AEW is old enough to have multiple eras:
19-20: early AEW/All Friends Wrestling
Covid-summer 21: Daily's Place (Brodie, Belt Collector)
Summer 21-Spring 22: Ascendant (major growth, adding stars)
Spring 22-present: LOLAEW (Cody gone, bad vibes but growing) c/
@mattyglesias
They'll probably also bring up the second intifada and 10/7 -- attempts at peace, peaceniks (ex. the kibbutzim around Gaza, or the timing of 10/7 to foil Saudi , etc.)
They're not wrong and it's why Hamas really is a central obstacle to peace.
@QueenMab87
Related: "polite" antisemitism is the kind I've encountered the most. They're not antisemitic!
They just dislike Jewish culture, Judaism, Zionists, Israelis, or people who are visibly Jewish (especially Hasidim).
They like Jewish people! As long as they're not Jewish.
@jacobkornbluh
It's part of a broader pattern of Bibi disregarding American Jews while taking support for granted.
Put differently, I'm not surprised this is coming from someone who has tried to make Israel a culture war wedge while cultivating GOP & esp. Evangelical support.
@KenRoth
The fish rots from the head:
@hrw
uses double standards to demonize Israel in order to delegitimize Zionism. Its exec dir. then excuses Diaspora antisemitism caused by 3D's. This should be added as an IHRA example.
@Daniel_Sugarman
I really like Wynn's work, but I was struck by the tone here. This amounts to "what's a little antisemitism between friends?"
This is yet unfortunate instant classic of Jews Don't Count.
Yad Vashem chairman
@AmbDaniDayan
in a letter to Columbia President Shafik:
“Heidelberg University in Germany was not less prestigious than Columbia...A mob of Heidelberg students burned Jewish and other “corrupt” books in
Universitätsplatz ("University Square"). Its faculty
Antisemitism is often framed as mere criticism. Please try to be a bit more sophisticated. Don’t be duped by fascists and bigots pretending to be champions of free speech.
@davidbix
Alternatively:
Cody Rhodes takes over as CCO and, as a show of good faith to the fans that he won't just book himself as the top guy, uses a stip to write himself out of the world title picture...
@JESnowden
I think part of the issue is that everyone is so hyperbolic. AEW already succeeded.
It has also cooled off a ton from its 2021 peak, measurables are down, but like you said, so is TV.
Because AEW has proven to be a successful live sports draw, it will get a good deal somewhere
@smj389
There are many strains of Zionism (labor, liberal, revisionist, post, etc.)
However, most US Jews, the overwhelming supermajority of whom are some flavor of Zionist, support a 2 state solution. Oftentimes it is as a direct result of their Zionism.
@speechboy71
This might be naive, but I tend to think this is as much Biden overruling Netanyahu's veto of the security cabinet as anything else. How/why things got where they are, why the Security Cabinet wanted to (effectively) end the war, etc. is a diff convo:
💥Netanyahu unilaterally rejected unanimous war cabinet view that IDF should not operate in Rafah as Hamas seemed likely to accept hostage release deal, reveals
@HauserTov
. Opposition war cabinet members Gantz & Eizenkot halted full-bore operation.
@AOC
Speaking as a liberal: how can you support someone who has engaged so often in antisemitism?
Speaking pragmatically: these are the exact mistakes of Corbynism & will have an even more disastrous outcome for progressives. For all the Tories' failures, they're not Trump or MAGA.
@lionel_trolling
Enh, in fairness, neo-Kahanism isn't really a hugely popular ideology. It's just one empowered by their politics + by Bibi specifically.
That's not to whitewash & agreed re. Revisionism, tho a sort of super centrist lib Zionism (to the extent Gantz counts) still has some sway
@Ibishblog
@JewishWonk
@dlepeska
I mean this genuinely & as a compliment: it's refreshing to hear Bibi treated like the garden variety authoritarian he is (or aspires to be, more accurately?) than some special, singular evil.
He knowingly empowers Kahanist fascists & is prolonging a war for pure self interest.
Notably, both these studies align w the
@AJCGlobal
's finding that antizionism is antisemitism:
This is a v consistent portrayal of American Zionism in practice but the terminology deserves greater scrutiny.
What do US Jews think Zionism means?
@blakeflayton
Also! One could have just listened to Zelensky, the guy quotes Golda Meir (as above) and sees Ukraine as a "big Israel".
Zelensky wants more support from Israel because he sees comon bonds & shared values & interests.
Why write this and ignore what Zelensky himself thinks?
@mattyglesias
This is ultimately on Bibi, Dermer (& Adelson?).
They decided to enter the US culture war, tether to the GOP, attach to Evangelicals all while attacking lib democracy in Israel & empowering settler-right.
They punted the soft power of bipartisan consensus for short term gain.
@shadihamid
Obvi, those blatant hypocrites exist.However, it's fair to expect progressive standards circa 2020 re. marginalized + minority groups to apply to Jews & antisemitism & they haven't. Jews Don't Count was written in the shadow of Corbynism, but it's proven applicable here, too. 1/2
@joshtpm
Obvi this is just one poll (SSS caveats) but it actually fits the larger trend re. US Jews: there's a dissident minority & a supermajority.
Here, 14% of Jews think the response is too harsh. Generally, ~85% say antizionism, which is common in the protests, is antisemitism.
@WajahatAli
CNN is running a special report w the ADL on rising antisemitism on Sunday.
I suspect & worry that's precisely the sort of programming nu-CNN won't be doing in short order precisely because it'll alienate potential viewers.
@JamesSurowiecki
Attempting a serious answer: a treaty of unconditional surrender hereby ceasing all hostilities, commanding all members to obey all future orders from (Israel/PA/pursuant to declaration TBD), & immediately releasing unharmed all prisoners and hostages.
Same as Germany + Japan.
1 \ President Biden’s comments to
@tomfriedman
against Netanyahu's judicial overhaul were meant to correct the impression that was created by the Prime Minister about his call with Biden & make clear the President’s objection to the unilateral legislation, U.S. officials told me
Sen. Coons (D-DE) from Senate floor on what he told Israeli PM Netanyahu in his last in-person meeting:"You don't just have right to defend the Israeli people against Hamas, you have the obligation....You have go after them. You have to finish the job. You have to go into Rafah."
@JewishWonk
What I can't understand is this: why don't pro-Palestinian leftists coalesce around non-Zionism or post-Zionism? Why do they focus on *anti*-zionism?
I mean, I know *why*, but I just can't understand why they're so bent on wasting their time trying to destroy an existing country
@mattyglesias
@lionel_trolling
@SamAdlerBell
This is the nub of it. It's also really, really reminiscent of how Corbynism functioned/functions (which makes sense given all the cross-pollination!)
@RubensteinAdam
@EytanSosnovich
This is almost perfectly an example of what British Jews had to deal with during Corbynism.
Remember Jeremy's "friends"? Or his wreath laying? Or his opinions on murals? Or *countless other things*
It's pure, classic Jews Don't Count and it sucks.
@mattyglesias
This is great message discipline.
The wading in to the Bernie-Moskowitz fight to invoke the Holocaust + tikkun olam was... uh, less great, to be gentle and generous.
@BenLorber8
Genuinely: have you considered that WaPo ran an op-ed with a hed that were both dripping in tokenism? which any progressive would rightly instantly call out as bigotry.
It's one thing to be a dissident minority within a marginalized group. It's another to launder bigotry.
@QueenMab87
This thread is p misleading. Please see my (attempted lol :/ but you can see in replies?) thread below.
The tl;dr is that Zionism is an overwhelming supermajority position consistent with national polling, but the *term* Zionism doesn't the same support. It's interesting!
@ProfDBernstein
@MartinKonecny
A new city east of Ariel doesn't serve Israeli interests because it will make separation harder.
Unilaterally defining the blocs (and including Ariel) makes much more sense, especially if done in conjunction with the demarcation of a provisional political (not security!) border
This is a good, nuanced thread.
Unfortunately, it's over 280 characters so it's multiple posts without being very memeable or catchy.
Take a minute and give it your time and consideration. It's worth it.
There is a world of difference between "I feel compassion for Palestinian civilians" and "there is only one solution intifada revolution." One is the statement of a thinking person retaining their humanity. The other is a slogan for idiots with bloodlust.
@HillelIntl
has a new poll concerning Jewish students' attitudes & experiences of campus, the protests, etc.
The results are extremely concerning & reflect yet another manifestation of the surge in antisemitism since 10/7.
As a liberal: I'm begging people -- including/especially progressives!!! who purport to care about this stuff -- to please learn about the pervasive, structural, systemic nature of antisemitism.
One-sided posts like this, evoking the blood libel, drip with that unconscious bias
On this Easter, let’s ponder Netanyahu’s indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, which has killed more than 20,000 women and children, and his restriction of humanitarian aid, which has pushed Palestinians to the brink of famine.
@mike_petriello
Question: FRV groups outfielders as a whole and doesn't compare them positionally, right? So Soto isn't just being compared to RF, etc.