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Woman. UK. Left. Liberationist. Fed up. Women's rights are human rights. Misogyny's misogyny, even if it identifies as progress. 🍸
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As a reminder, a UK woman is murdered every three days by a misogynist. Here are, in the UK in 2022, some young black-clad, masked misogynists demonstrating against women being permitted to speak about their legal rights.
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Women's rights are not "transwomen's" rights. They are not the same. There are a million and one things no male who identifies as a woman will EVER experience. The ignorance of the history of what women had to fight for is beyond depressing.
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Apparently, we're all pearl-clutching transphobic old hag-bigots because we don't think a bloke in woman-face singing a misogynist song about how much he hates women and why he's a much better woman than us 'cos he does anal and squirts and 'all our hubands fancy him'
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A "trans lesbian" is a heterosexual male. Believe me, he knows which ones the women are. His sexual orientation hasn't changed. That's why he doesn't generally seek to sleep with other 'trans lesbians' and wants to sleep with the women.
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If you are "standing with" Eddie Izzard over Rosie Duffield... you put men above women, fullstop. If you're a woman doing this, you are demonstrating that you value men and men's feelings WAY above other women and above truth. You are pro patriarchy. You "stand with" misogyny.
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Genuinely blows my mind that there are people so ignorant of the basics of feminism that they think Kathleen Stock wearing a trouser suit and having short hair makes her "a hypocrite".
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Women have had to crowdfund (ie pay) to get the actual CURRENT LAW upheld with regard to their own rights, because the people and systems that are supposed to ensure the law is upheld haven't been doing their jobs and have handed it over to unelected lobby groups with
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Why would so many of the women who previously supported Eddie Izzard for his gender nonconformity now "suddenly" object and simultaneously all turn into massive "bigots" overnight when he claims it makes him a woman and he just gets in and out of "girl mode" via high heels? 🤔
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The reason most of us have been talking about this and not much else for the last few years is we're just gobsmacked about a) how horrific it is, the worst misogyny many of us have seen in our lifetimes, as well as an epic medical scandal of child sterilisation being
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Anyone who says "trans women are women" (especially those dogmatic mantra types who try to 'no debate' it) a) doesn't know anything about the history of women's rights & feminism (Yes, even if you're a woman & call yourself a feminist)
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There's NO excuse for misreporting this.
#Tavistock
#GIDS
hasn't been closed because of waiting lists. It's been closed because its practices (incl complete lack of data & evidence base, incl ideological capture) were considered UNSAFE for the young people it was 'treating'.
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The idea that "woman" is a bunch of submissive personality stereotypes and outfits and 'looks', that women are "naturally" subservient, ditzy, have pink stereotype "ladybrains" etc is biological essentialism. This thinking by men prevented us getting the vote.
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"Children aren’t adults. They don’t always know when they are being sexually exploited or put in a vulnerable position. It is up to adults, and organisations that work with children, to protect them, from things like Lolita photo-shoots, drag performances,
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then getting his 'lady' cock out and the whole thing not being parody is the HEIGHT of screaming hilarity and we should all be luvvily praising its brilliance. Fuck. Off.
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If the only people allowed to have single sex toilets are men (but not women), if the only people not permitted to have groups of their own and meet without others not in that group are women, if the only people who don't get to define themselves and are being redefined
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Just doing some catching up on the Maya tribunal. There's some serious misogyny in action there. Senior bloke says he thinks it's "offensive" that women could even want or need single sex spaces? Just wow. WOW. Not a man who knows anything about women's lives or realities then.
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There are MUCH better ways to tell the world you don't pander to sexist stereotypes than call yourself 'non binary'. For instance, why not just be a proud woman who doesn't pander to sexist stereotypes,
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@nwlc
Do you actually know what the word "misogyny" means? It's not something that Lia Thomas can ever or will ever experience. Misogyny is the hatred and denigration of the female SEX. Which is exactly what you are doing by promoting Lia. Idiots.
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All these smug VERY middle class women who imagine they're "liberal" & "left wing" desperately trying to justify why they don't think other women should be permitted to discuss the dismantling of all our legal rights because they've had their heads in the sand about the issues.
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@ChronoKatie
Good job that's not remotely what the problem is, then, isn't it Katie? I'm not insecure and my sense of womanhood isn't "threatened". My and other womens' rights in law and safety (because words mean things, am not "cis" by the way) are, in that they're being dismantled,
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"I have a trans friend identifying friend and they're a lovely person" is NOT an adequate reason to have women punished, demonised, publicly shamed, sent death & rape threats, defamed, criminalised and excluded from public life
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@BBCBristol
It got pulled because it flouted child safeguarding, was aimed at 5 year olds, and was inappropriate, creepy and groomy. They also lied about it having been developed with the guidance of safeguarding experts (as I say, it goes AGAINST safeguarding) and the NSPCC
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Q: What sort of man gets affronted by women and girls being allowed to have a separate space from him when they are vulnerable or undressed?
A: The EXACT sort of man we had to have single sex spaces to separate ourselves from and who should not be given open access to them, ever.
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This truly is a mass gaslighting event. Very scary stuff. THINK about what you're supporting, people, THINK. If you're supporting violence against women saying no and the active dismantling of fundamental human rights which apply to us ALL you are not & never will be "liberal".
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@aoifemcl
What rights are they 'pleading for' exactly, Aoife? The right to identify as a demographic they're objectively not while pushing the needs of people actually IN that demographic aside? Doesn't seem like equality or fairness to me, just entrenching inequality.
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@HenryTribe
@eddieizzard
@RuthDavidsonPC
@TimesRadio
@RosieDuffield1
Yes, the 21st century with Eddie's 19th century views on what the "essence of womanhood" is. Male dominance, pink and blue stereotypes, apparently, and women shutting up and knowing their place and being politically disenfranchised, and the men doing the talking for them.
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@cenkuygur
@rickygervais
"Trans people have no power"? Are you having a laugh? It's one of the wealthiest, best funded, most privileged male, white and powerful "civil rights movement" EVER. Has ALL media, big tech and Big pharma, politicians and influencers behind it
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Privileged middle class white Guardianista oblivious to own privilege writes patronisingly of much smarter black writer whom she describes as a "troublemaker" for having reasoned opinions. Ah, the blind spots.
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@SadiqKhan
Are you saying you don't want the Equality Law, the one that was agreed in Parliament, to be upheld? Are you saying you're happy for womens' rights to be dismantled, with no discussion, on the say so of trans lobby groups?
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The word "Misogyny" is made up of two parts. Miso, which, in Greek, means Hatred. And Gyne, "of and pertaining to women and the female reproductive system." Hatred of female people. By which we do mean female. Not 'men who don't think they fit society's rigid masculinity norms'
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1/ If your "feminism" primarily consists of demonising, hating on, defaming & sneering at the kind of women who were for instance, at Greenham back in the day, those who fought, as lesbians, against Section 28, those who fought for women to get equal pay
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@BigMeanInternet
Because "cis" doesn't actually exist, Malcolm. It's not a thing. It's part of the language of YOUR belief framework and ideological system, not mine. I think I know a lot more than you do about what being a woman is, btw. Actually being one, and all that. Why all the hate-rage?
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Please, news outlets, will you STOP reporting this as "trans rights issues." It's about WOMEN'S rights. WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN, WOMEN. You can say that word, you know.
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@SadiqKhan
Sadiq, a reminder of the Nolan Principles. Pink News is spreading misinformation about the law as it relates to women. As an elected representative you should not be spreading misinformation.
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Why are so many men, straight & gay, in the NHS cheering on the supposed "right" of their mostly straight male TW brethren to be housed in women's wards when as patients? And so very FURIOUS that a lot of women are saying no.
The pure hatred I'm seeing for women is unhinged.
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It's incredibly tiresome having to point this out. Women have single sex spaces & services in certain circumstances for SAFETY because of male patterns of sexual crime towards females. (NO, not all males, but enough males to make it a huge problem, that's the point.
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@wokehtklim
@WanderThru_Life
@StonewallOut
@Sorelle_Arduino
@RevRachelMann
@SinclairJM1987
Oh look. Your TQ+ appears to be COMPLETELY ABSENT FROM THE PROCEEDINGS. Why are you trying to rewrite other peoples' history?
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No, she was a woman. Because women aren't "feminine stereotypes." That was THE WHOLE POINT of feminism. A woman who doesn't fit your idea of what a "real woman" is isn't a man. You & your regressively conservative "pink & blue" stereotypes are the problem here.
The word “transgender” did not exist during the life of ‘Little Women’ author Louisa May Alcott. But
@peytonology
asks whether it might be the best word to capture the experience of an author who wrote about having a “boy’s spirit” and a “man’s soul.”
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Psychopathic behaviour isn't "activism". Stalking people and threatening them at their homes isn't "activism". Targeting women at their homes to make them afraid because they won't comply with what you want isn't 'activism'; it's abuse. It looks like ALL OTHER violent male abuse.
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So... the women speaking say they didn't invite the Neo Nazis and don't support them. The Neo Nazis themselves say they don't support the women and call them names. The whole of the Australian media, led by local politicians, reports that the women, many of whom have never voted
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This man's clear autogynephile fetish and obsession with his moobs is a great advert for why he isn't the same as me or other women, and why I don't want him anywhere near my spaces. Get it yet?
#TransAwarenessWeek
#WomensRightsAreHumanRights
This is by far the most disgusting footage I took yesterday at the final US Let Women Speak event in NYC.
Truly hard to watch.
@StandingforXX
#LetWomenSpeakUSA
#LetWomenSpeak
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@deebasyed
Well, no, it's abusive predatory men and a culture of misogyny that are the problem, Deeba. This really isn't difficult. It's also not "either/or".
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People are actually claiming that those objecting to
#womanface
are oppressing an oppressed group. They complete ignore the fact that historically, & all over the world, women are treated as PROPERTY, often legal property, of men. Objects.Oppressed. The ignorance is astounding.
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So basically, Starmer (along with media shills) openly shutting down any discussion of women's rights and will invoke Briana Ghey's murder whenever women's rights or sex-based rights are mentioned.
And some people were trusting him that Labour had changed on this? We're screwed.
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I've probably posted my thread of images of transactivists openly calling for the murder, beating, & sexual assault of women about twenty or more times by now. They use words like "killing, stomping, punching, dead" frequently, & sexual stuff. Not ONCE have I heard a single TRA,
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@russelltovey
What "phobias?"You mean REASONS, backed up by stats, why single sex spaces & services were fought for, the world over? Why Unesco still does as a women & girls' human rights issue in places that don't have them. Why sex segregation of prisoners is eg in the Geneva Convention?
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They've all decided, haven't they? F*ck facts, f*ck integrity, f*ck truth, f*ck equality & women's and girls' rights in law, f*ck child safeguarding or medical ethics or "do no harm", f*ck lesbians being allowed to say no, f*ck actual diversity, parity or inclusion,
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So THE OBSERVATION that an awful lot of those who SAY they're representing "trans rights" are a) demonstrably displaying violent misogyny towards non-compliant women b) making frequent use of sexualised threats c) displaying creepy red flag behaviour & male sexual fetishism
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@IndyVoices
@harriepw
It is neither respectful or a human right to demand that everyone ignore reality, or to compel other peoples' speech. We do not live in a fundamentalist religious society. You believe what you wish, but it is against others' human rights to compel that belief.
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@free_equal
a) I don't have a sense of my "gender identity" b) "Gender identity" = sex stereotypes. I have a sense of my personality, not which regressive stereotypes I fit into. That's not "free". c) Nobody's "assigned" a sex at birth, it's observed. Why are you pushing this religion?
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What I would say to you people, while you're busy vilifying JK Rowling & imagining that doing so is somehow virtuous of you and proves your supposedly 'left wing' credentials while you're probably getting all your information from biased sources like idk, Owen Jones or Monty. ..
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A reminder too that sexual orientation is a protected characteristic in UK law. Obfuscating what this is - heterosexual males trying to gaslight lesbian women to sleep with them- is homophobia. Stop it.
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Describe to us all what a "trans child" is without utilising regressive sex stereotypes about how you think boys and girls should be and behave.
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what's been happening. This is not a small "side issue" just because it's "only" women, misogynist fools. This should be a MASSIVE scandal because it's exposed how easily our democracy can be undermined. And EVERYONE should know about it. Pay attention.
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@BBCBristol
(who knew nothing about it and whose own safeguarding rules would have red-flagged it). As an organisation, you've clearly learned nothing from your enabling of Jimmy Savile. Dreadful biased and factually incorrect reporting also.
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Jesus, the number of simpering "cis woman here" middle class idiots who REALLY don't get what their self subjugation and pandering is giving away for other women far less privileged than themselves. How could they be so STUPID? The patriarchy has always had its useful idiots
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As is the number of supposedly "left wing" people, including many women I know who are taking a tribal view on this and think they're being righteous. "It's like the new gay rights." No it isn't. It really, really isn't. You're blind to what is happening. Stupid and complacent.
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It's a shame that
@networkrail
chooses to employ and praise individuals whose social media output looks like this.
Genuinely concerned for any women in his life, and his female colleagues. He is openly, grossly misogynist, & spewing anti-woman hate. How does that fit with "EDI"?
It just goes on.
Gender identity ideology is just a synonym for misogyny.
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@aoifemcl
Or is it the 'right' to compel other people's belief, which goes against all human rights principles. You do not speak for me, Aoife, and you do not have the right to consent for others who are saying NO. Women's rights are human rights too.
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@ChronoKatie
deliberately, by this, esp single sex spaces, and women who complain demonised, lied about and threatened. Most women don't yet realise that this is the issue, and we're not talking about a few post operative transsexuals, but ANY male being counted as female merely on his say so
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@benjaminbutter
2 women a WEEK in the UK killed by misogynist males, Benjamin. Went up to 5 in lockdown. Murdered. Dead. By the kind of men JK was talking about when she spoke about her DV. 9 transwomen in the last DECADE. Murdered by violent males. Not feminists. Not women. Not JK Rowling.
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Has anyone from "the right side of history" actually condemned the "decapitate women we don't like" sign yet, or are they all claiming it's "bad apples" again, or implying that we deserve beheading for people who 'can't control their passions' for being meanies who say no?
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It was precisely the hate, lies and smears against people I knew for a fact had spent their lives fighting for equality that made it crystal clear that current transactivism is nothing whatsoever to do with civil rights and everything to do with imposing an ideology by force.
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their own agendas - who have been trying to change the law on women's rights on the ground outside the scrutiny of both Parliament and public. There was no consent or discussion with the people most affected: women. Half the population of the UK, many of whom still don't realise
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@nwlc
Nobody looks at Lia and sees a woman. Lia is not a member of the demographic group that has been historically treated as, for instance, the property of the demographic group that Lia factually belongs to. Lia is not part of the demographic group that is killed even in
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"I'm 5 ft 11 with a history of violence and mental illness so you women absolutely WILL let me into your spaces or else I'll hurt you" is not the justification for why everyone must agree he's not a man but a vulnerable woman and let him into women's spaces he thinks it is.
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Is it just me? I really am genuinely baffled that so many self id-ing 'feminists' don't seem to know ANYTHING whatsoever about fundamental feminist ideas or anything about the history of women's rights back in the day.
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@CreativeNotEvil
@Whatfreshhell5
Just a reminder that THIS is the way those you're cheering on are behaving in demos for what they claim are "trans rights" over the world & the violent hatred against women they're spouting.
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Oh. And if you're a woman who hasn't noticed this, or is still finding excuses for it, or even, god help us, cheering it on while patting yourself on the back for your 'kindness', congratulations. You're the boiling frog.
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Wanting treatment for children to be evidence-based and for safeguarding & medical ethics to apply to all children is not the result of "bigotry" "hatred" or "being in league with the far right."
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@russelltovey
You clearly forgot that women and girls are humans and deserve respect to. And yes, that includes the ones who aren't pandering and saying they don't need any of this because they're complacent/privileged. They don't get to give consent for the rest of us. Sick of this misogyny.
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@WomenReadWomen
@TheLancet
And the point of the article was WOMENS' healthcare. WOMEN. Nothing to do with trans. You insulted and dehumanised WOMEN and here you are doing it again by pushing WOMEN aside, as usual, for bloody trans. Just stop. We are not support humans for trans identities.
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@NoraMulready
No, you were right the first time. And please stop misrepresenting the arguments of "gender critical" people. There is nothing remotely progressive or caring, btw, about supporting pink n blue sex stereotypes and medicalising kids who don't 'fit'.
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@FaithfullyBP
What, you mean women's right to exist in public, have their own stuff, their own words, be consulted when their rights in law are about to be dismantled without any consent or discussion? Oh. No you didn't mean that, you meant the men. Well, we're discussing WOMEN'S rights, pal.
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@keithbelfast
So are women's, which creates a problem. As many of us are not simply going to submit to being redefined in law to "anyone male who fondly imagines they're some regressively sexist 1950s idea of a woman" and to have all of our hard fought for rights dismantled as a result.
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Indeed, and really think about that. "Many transactivists are angry that women are now considered stakeholders in policies regarding THEIR OWN LIVES. They see women being permitted rights as "transphobic""
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@lynsey_bee
Christ, imagine this level of zealotry, authoritarianism & thought policing being your "activism". Update: "I don't believe that other women are permitted to use their fundamental human right to free assembly or freedom of belief unless I personally approve their thinking and
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@kennedytcooper
Because your generation are so awash with capitalism, you don't even realise you're doing a 'marketed, prepackaged' version of what activism looks like. It's cosplay. And you're authoritarians, not free thinkers. We were WAY better at facing things head on, including discussion.
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Good to see
#IStandWithJoanSmith
trending. Joan, longtime anti misogyny campaigner and author of book "Misogynies" removed by Sadiq Kahn from her role as chair of Violence Against Women & Girls Board seemingly for... advocating for women and girls affected by violence.
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@veganfishcake
@McrGreenParty
Of course they conflict. That's why there is an enormous bloody conflict about it, Jake. That's why women are having to go to court to prove they're not evil bigots for standing up for their CURRENT legal rights. They shouldn't have to, but funny how they keep winning, isn't it?
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Um, Sisters Uncut are NOT a "feminist" group,
@SkyNews
.
We don't call them "Misters Uncut" for nothing. They're men's rights activists.
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@NadiaWhittomeMP
I'm a lifelong left-winger, Nadia, as are many feminists, and actively fought against Section 28. I would like to be able to vote Labour again but women's rights is a key issue for me & I currently don't trust you on them.
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to blame them for things they are factually not responsible for or claim that 'secretly' they think and believe things that they haven't said and obviously don't is women, then yes, YOU HAVE A BLOODY MASSIVE MISOGYNY PROBLEM.
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We SHOULD have had open and public discussion about this (single sex spaces and all the rest) from the outset. It should have been in the public arena. One of the reasons this is now so 'toxic' and we won't shut up about it is we (very forcibly) didn't get that option,
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This is because being a 'real' woman is NOTHING to do with "feminine" stereotypes, because assuming feminine stereotypes (aka 'gender') equals "womanhood" is about as regressively patriarchal as you can get. How could anyone have missed this fundamental point, seriously?
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@IndyVoices
@harriepw
Especially as it is entirely erroneous, and we can all see it is. Eddie is a man. A cross dressing man.Which is fine. Every cell in his body is male. he is not, never has been, and never will be a woman. So no, I'm not going to call him "she". Stop being such a pathetic doormat.
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d) where everyone's afraid to speak against it, despite its non factual, pseudo religious nature, due to violent threats and e) where lots of people, mostly women, have LOST THEIR JOBS for even questioning it, despite the factual nature of their questions while
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Reading through today's tribunal tweets, I genuinely don't understand how these people thought what they were doing was acceptable, even righteous?
Their hatred of women they deem "terfs" is frenzied and extremist. Crazy, irrational, blind, ignorant hatred.
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@chasestrangio
Because you are literally not a gay man. If you want relationships with men, you are a masculine-presenting, heterosexual female.
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b) supported and pushed by the media, publishing, politicians, corporates, academia and the police c) based on an ideology which is as factual as Dianetics or Creationism, where the evidence debunking it is copious and readily available and
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Seriously, people (often men) writing solemnly about Eddie Izzard using the pronouns "she" "her" "hers" - do you even see yourselves and just how ridiculously absurd you look when you do it? Eddie is a 60 year old man who likes dresses and lipstick & calls himself a "girl"
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AND demands that their visas are revoked, that they mustn't be permitted to speak? On what basis? On what EVIDENCE? You understand that this is in itself dangerous authoritarianism and goes against basic human rights protocols everywhere, right?
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@neoaisac
@hollypringle
@ucl
@stonewalluk
@LGBTQ_STEMatUCL
@UCLout
@UCLEqualities
@UCLLGBT
@UCLcares
Do you understand why women and girls HAD to fight for single sex spaces and services (and in many places still do - see Unesco's global campaign re: single sex bathrooms as women's human rights issue)? Because one in five women have experienced sexual assault,
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without consent or discussion are women, if the only people who you think shouldn't be allowed to speak about, write about or discuss their own CURRENT legal rights and bodies and experiences without having to include people from other groups are women and you'll even actively
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@andizeisler
JK chose integrity & the truth. At great personal cost to herself. This concept may be something you're less than familiar with but some people still have it and care about it, you know.
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A reminder to supposedly left wing
#VAWG
enablers who think they're progressive "because it's only terfs" being threatened with physical violence.
That word, used for ALL & ANY women you've chosen to designate and "other" as a supposedly legitimate target for male violence, for:
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Being threatened by little bloke on here for saying I think he's a being a misogynist bigot when he says the usual crap about "Mumsnet is full of transphobic hate." He seems to think I'm going to be frightened by him demanding to take me to court for it
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And when I say "women" I mean the biologically female ones. You all know which ones they are really, because they're the ones you very obviously think are an exception to equality.
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