Hetero male, In the Goth scene with an androgynous fem preference for style. I am also into Aviation, classic cars, Music, Sci Fi and fantasy and politics.
Guys...we CAN be Beautiful, sleek, elegant, and yes even "sexy". Be out and open, and do so as a man, EVEN if you look stereotypically female.
It is all conditioning that tells you males don't have long hair, wear makeup, wear non kilt like skirts, paint nails, etc.
I'm a hetero male. I want to assure ANYONE that my style (which has been my style for decades now) is NOT in anyway so I can "sneak" into women's restrooms. I truly wish androgyny and gender bending took a greater hold before the TRAs started what they have.
I should ask the same. The answer is, yes it makes sense, I'm a man. No clothing, no makeup, no nails, no voice change, no hair style, NOTHING will make me a woman. Use men's or neutral and stay out of Women's, particularly if you are intact down there.
Guys. Would you take any issue if I were to use the Men's bathrooms or other male single sex facilities? (I mean I already do, or single stall units when out and about)
EVEN when decked out like this, I identify as nothing other than a heterosexual, male. Clothing makeu, etc DOES NOT change my core being. I want nothing to do with "women's spaces". I am old school androgynous goth.
@CaptainVirgilx
I've done this since 92, though it branched out to what you see here in the 2000s. It bugs me how the trans movement seemed to halt the slow but steady break down of strict gender expression rules. Now gender non conforming people are pressured to think they are not right sex.
This is what Rowling is hated over? For pointing out how fucked up it is for intact, biological males in women's prisons, and showers, and locker rooms? THIS is why she is demonized?!
A 'she-problem': women being terrified of being locked up with male rapists, murderers and domestic abusers. This, you compare this to your irrational fear of spiders.
@trashalou
@amyworldalive
A WOMAN COULD NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS. Why is it so hard to understand this is just not acceptable in a public place for ANY sex.
If biological sex is not based on genitalia, and or chromosomes, then can anyone tell me just what in the hell GENDER ROLES are based on. What is it about me that socially limits my expression? What are dress codes based on. How can one (gender) exist without the other (sex)?!
Do people not understand that some of those people you call Racists, or homophobic, or transphobic are indeed NOT those things, and their anger at your accusations is completely justified?
@kerastase
Very cool. I made a similar post, but I could not find it. I am hoping other "Feminine" presenting people even trans will see there is no issue with them using the facilities in line with their birth sex.
Billie Porter is a man, identifies as a man, and has talent you may not appreciate. He smashes gender rules limits and stereotypes (though he does support the "flamining gay, one"). He does not claim to be a woman. He is not forcing his way into women's spaces.
Can someone please explain why this should be celebrated & put on a pedestal.
I’ll stick to respecting first responders, care givers & the like, a million miles before this abomination.
@bobbyruce
@JamesEsses
I don't think that is what this person's beef is. I think the person is pointing out cisnormative (not my term), are represented by a blank space or white flag. Eg: boring.
@leng_wanda
I am hoping others the have trepidations about using the facility in line with the sex they were born and feel a little more at ease and stop listening to the TRAs.
@sensemakr
@AbigailShrier
The trans movement has done nothing but REINFORCE those same gender rules and limits that were slowly getting broken down in the 70s 80s and early 90s. I really hate what has happened.
To fellow Gender Non Conforming folk and femboys. You can go out in what you like, and not feel compelled to use another identity, or use facilities not in line with your gender, or feel compelled to "blend in". The more of us out there, the less stygma there is.
This is a follow up question to a previous one about bathrooms. Now, again, this a pic of me in one of my styles. I am gender non conforming, hetero, and male identified. In the other post some said they would react with disgust. I am curious why such a reaction?
@AbigailShrier
I'm a heterosexual male, that just prefers feminine styles. I see gender rules and limits on styles to be innane and likely what has fed a lot of the trans issue. I don't wear my styles to "mock" women at all. People like Dylan make me look to be doing so.
Sooooo, since my post defending Billy Porter, I have since learned he is pro bio men in women's spaces, and TWAW. My post though was more directed at the attack of GNC males. I so wish Male GNC had better representation than people like Billy, Ru, etc.
@sunheadbowed
This fellow absolutely nails it, and graciously. We only know how WE were raised. I can no more "feel" like a woman, anymore than I can "feel" how it is to be a cat. The experiences are so so different from my own. This has always been a stumping point for me.
@MsBlaireWhite
Kim Petras, put on hormone blockers at age 12. AGE 12. Because as a child he liked pink dresses and other "girly" things. That is regressive as hell.
@xxclusionary
THIS IS A GENDER NON CONFORMING MALE!!! Not a woman, not even trans. He is a effing man. As far as being abused in the men's...um, dude you are at an event in a skirt, sky high heels and nails, IF abuse were to happen it would have already have happened.
@GPrime85
Let me get this right. A person is committing a crime with a clearly visible MAGA hat. Yea...I am sure this person is a MAGA person. Just like the guys that attacked Jusie Smollet.
@Corteoaddict
Please understand womanface is when a man not only wears makeup, he also pretends to be, or tries to pass as a woman. I wear makup and "feminine" styles, and it is never to mock women in the manner Dylan does. It is style to me, and I am not alone.
@Gabesanti81
@davenewworld_2
A missile that would be even smaller could do that. A 767 IS NOT small. Go stand next to one and see what an asinine statement you just made.
@michaelmalice
I went to a private school. Uniforms and all. I had property destroyed, or damaged, was beaten, just because I was a red headed, freckle faced, squeaky voiced kid. That school was also like a "prison" for us students. Public or private schools just suck.
Maybe I was unawares, but it seems that the term "gender non conformity" or "gender non conforming" is being applied to trans identified individuals. Please correct me if I am wrong but, don't trans and non binary in fact subscribe to, and adhere to gender conformity?
@MichaelWoodes
I made this post for others to see a fem looking, person is not really going to be a problem in the male facilities as there are a lot of thinking that fem presenting, or gender benders would not be safe using the men's facilities.
I don't type this to be mean. I type this because there is a need for change. A change in our attitudes towards what we call "feminine". To halt the bullying of "effeminate" boys, to stop attacking those males that don't fit in. To respect women as well.
@SloanRachmuth
Social transition as far as I can tell is just reinforcing gender rules, limits and stereotypes. "oh, your a little boy that likes pink, dolls, and dresses? Well, you must not be a boy then." "Ah, a little girl that likes rough and tumble play...well, she must be a boy"
@OwenBenjamin
Also, do you know why the L.M. looks this way? Because there was zero need for aerodynamics, due to the craft operating in a vacuum. A vacuum is also not as harsh as 6000 pounds per square inch that is encountered where the Titanic lies.
@th_juanita
@realDonaldTrump
Where is the call to harm Pence in this again? Where are the calls to destroy the captital? Come on now. He may have been wrong about the power that Pence had, but he sure as hell did not call for Pence to be ended.
@RaheemKassam
This could also be the "good" version of the swastika. The one that Hilter took and perverted. There are people that still display the symbol, and it has nothing to do with Nazis.
@AldoButtazzoni
So what you are saying is cuts of fabric is strong enough to destroy masculinity? You give masculinity so little credit that you think clothing, and style can destroy it?
@SloanRachmuth
What is being covered by the word "transistion" here. Are we talking permanent things like surgery (I can not imagine they are doing this two less than 13 or so. Anyone know what is entailed here?
@STILLTish
@unamadremas21
That said...yes from what I have learned the TRAs are all about keeping people in gendered boxes. They are also either intentionally or unintentionally erasing homosexual people.
Repost: This needs to be repeated for all sides of the argument. No more questioning a kid's sexuality, or gender based solely on their interests and fashion preferences. Stop deeming boys as girls just because they like the color pink, or girls as boys because they like trucks.
@emilycoalnb
Well there is also the fact those that stand up for her also get cancelled. I wasn't even defending her but on a post about her books (in a Sandman group on FB), and how those that loved her books now hate her, I asked what it is she actually said.
@cvonruhland
androgyny was catching on and becoming more mainstream. Gender rules on clothing were slowly dying out...then....I don't know what the hell happened.
@tampa_npa
@ClownWorld_
How many hours of your life do you propose to waste reading the leaglease of such a contract? BOttom line, HOAs should not exist, that way no contracts from them need be read.
@NikHaflinger
same. Martin Gore, people all thought he was gay, yet, he's been married to women twice and has had kids. So at least bi. People make some shit ass assumptions on the manner people dress.
@tampa_npa
@ClownWorld_
Obesity is rarely a result of medical conditions. It is from having a lack of self control with food and such. Being overweight, or "fat" can be medical, but obesity is just being fat with no self control.
@missiemaisie
Well also, I did this to encourage other male bodied people to challenge the fear certain groups put out, and pressure them to use women's facilities.
@AriDrennen
You know what else would likely help people not feel suicidal? The cesation of gender based bullying by parents, peers, and society. STOP telling the "effeminate" little boy either he's a girl, or that there is something wrong with him for instance.
@erichcervantez
@JamesBradleyCA
A foreign country, or company for that matter should NOT be able to purchase, or own property or land within the borders of this nation. It is insane this is allowed.
@ImMeme0
@catturd2
This rocks. Clever as always. Did you see the one with him giving a speech after the attempted assassination, where in the midst of a speech a balloon pops and without a miss he says "missed me" and goes on?
Women's history month should be BIOLOGICAL WOMAN'S HISTORY MONTH. Not Women AND transwomen history month. Why are TRAs pushing this? They say they are not trying to erase women...but honestly they are. Trans women ARE NOT women. They have not experienced life as women.
@Sargon_of_Akkad
You may not like this Sargon, but, Japan has a sizable social safety net, along with socialized medical systems. I think the taxes paid by each citizen would make many here wince. Then there is the system of "respect" that is instilled in the children.
Honestly if I had my way, there would be no more gender based, dress, behavior, and generally no gender based limits on expression. I honestly wish the attitudes of Bowie, and other artists that bent gender had succeeded in getting it mainstream before the mid 90s.
Every now and then I screw up. I made a comment on a post about parents that did what they could to prevent their kid from transitioning. I made a stupid statement. I misread the thread and my comment was wrong. The op however blocked me preventing me from correcting.
Not me, but DEFINITELY a style I love. This is Sean Brennan, lead of the band "London after Midnight" to this day he rocks styles like this. I wish I could get my hair to do that. LOL.
@MomentInnThyme
As a gender non conforming male (androgynous), it bugs me all to hell about how this ideology is making things so unstable. I don't like this push for biological males to be in women's spaces, nor am I too hot about the "stealth dating" concept.
@ayyeescarface
This poll is going the way I suspected and the reasons given echo with ones of my own. The point about the person not really knowing who they are, or trying to be something they are not. This is something that is true of any relationship.
@JarrBelle
In high school when not in class or work, I rocked big sweaters, shiny black leggings, and huge boots, I later adopted long dress shirts in a tunic style with goth "winklepickers". I loved those looks. This was in the early 90s. I never wished for what is happening now.
@AngryHomo23
Yea, I get the not wanting to encounter in the bathroom. There is a reason they used to be called "privies" LOL. Cause they were private. I do what I can to use single unit facilities when out and about, but if I gotta use a single sex one, its the men's.
@ev_onthetrack
How does it suck for me? This applies to all people. Clothing, chemicals, procedures, CAN NOT change a person's sex. Gender rules limits and stereotypes can be changed, but SEX can not.
Here is the odd thing...you could have dressed and acted how you do without all that crap you are putting in your body, and without the modifications. This is why I say the trans movement is so very regressive, because it reinforces gender stereotypes.
@cernymuz
@reinjenjenni
@prageru
Aw, but heels are fun, and there are women that can appreciate a guy that can master them. :P (speaking from experience)