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"Oh."
"So you’ve... actually done it.”
“You’ve left me.”
#eimiko
hanahaki (except not really) fic, sfw with some suggestive elements, 8.5k words
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something to be horrified by: "chat" might be legitimately be the first dedicated 4th person pronoun
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when we talk about the "fourth person" pronoun what we're actually talking about are "kinds" of participants in dialogue that don't fit into the typical three setups: subject, object, observer...
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several ideas have been tossed around about what could be considered like, an atypical fourth type of relation to the dialogue that doesn't really fit, and the most popular is the hivemind "we/us," which is like, usually dismissed as an experiment of science fiction
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however, the word "chat" not only invokes the group of "chatters" as a grammatical object, but treats them as a singular hivemind, and not only that, it's--by virtue of a streamer's relationship to their chat--a direct address like the second person plural "you"
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not only that, "chat" is often used by a member speaking IN the chat to refer to the collective, sans self. for example, if one twitch viewer types in the chat, "chat is going crazy rn," they're performing like, a half-detachment from the collective to observe-self-estranged
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and, of course, because hiveminds in science fiction have to resemble our known rules of language so we can understand it, it just borrows first-person-plural and third-person-object even though it's not really?? like, a group agreeing?? or an insentient object
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because of this, "chat" as used by: streamers to refer to not a selection of viewers or the whole of them, but rather like, the ambiguous general nascent spirit behind viewership, as well as "chat" used by viewers of the streamer to refer to themselves--sans them, is unique
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and then it just happened and we made a completely intuitive pronoun for it and we just didn't even realize we solved a trivia problem that creative writing professors have been agonizing over for decades
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so like, we-us-it/them to refer is used in fiction to represent hiveminds and people do suggest that it's fourth person because it blends the boundary between personal and collective, however obviously since it's not real, it's just kind of like, a stretch
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if anything, this fictional convention of how you refer to a hivemind is just like, a quirky use of first person. but "chat" is like, truly different
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up until now we've only ever imagined how people would interact with a hivemind and how a hivemind would interact with people and other components of itself sans itself.
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the author fran kafka of earth-1883, bitten by a radioactive spider in 1914, and after having privately come out to her close friends as transgender, wrote about the angst of her transformation as a spider-person and as a trans woman, now travels the universe in service of cunt
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it should be said for people who aren't in the know: the reason i say it might become a pronoun and not a noun is that gen z are using "chat" while not streaming/watching a stream in a mostly joking way but it makes SENSE because its referring to the sum of "whoever can reply"
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another interesting example that answers the question "isn't this just y'all":
if you, as for an example a streamer, were talking to someone else in your voice chat who is not part of chat but, rather, a co-streamer, wanted to tell your conversation partner about what your audience said, you would say "chat told me you were wrong": y'all wouldn't work here.
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obviously twitch chat is not an actual hivemind, so in terms of reality-as-is, no, it's not like, a grammar textbook pronoun. but i think the word as is explores a developing liminal, parasocial, space in how we speak about feeling like someone is listening
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a good counterargument is that when people talk about chat, they use "they" to refer to the group, rather than just "chat," like "chat told me they don't like you." this would make it both a noun and versatile turn of phrase rather than like, a dedicated pronoun
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***in english!! some languages refer to the obivative ("him" rather than "he," etc.) as a theoretical 4th person
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@serialswaghaver
a person, referring to themselves and everyone else, would not say y'all: they would say we. see: someone in a chat going "chat is going crazy rn"
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if you, as for an example a streamer, were talking to someone else in your voice chat who is not part of chat but, rather, a co-streamer, wanted to tell your conversation partner about what your audience said, you would say "chat told me you were wrong": y'all wouldn't work here.
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YOU, WRITER
show me how your characters say i love you without saying i love you
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the un is so fucking funny because it's a group of PR managers for every country collectively voting on what they should tweet and that's it it's the global politics equivalent of gal gadot imagine
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yanfei not eating a burger
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on top of this, "chat" can be used by an individual who is a part of the chat, distancing themselves from the collective while at the same time not completely estranging oneself, see: a viewer saying "chat is going crazy rn" in chat.
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a fundamental genre difference between BL and GL is that as forms of gay media they've developed two distinct approaches to self-signaling a plausible deniability. BL can veer into the explicit/romantic because it can pretend to (and profit from) the market of straight voyeur...
yaoi is more popular than yuri largely due to demographics (it's for straight women) but the former gets incredibly uncomfortable with those demographics so will keep pushing for some mythological reason as to why people enjoy it
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where is my ten bucks
if you find this in seoul i will actually give you money! real ! 100% real in actually serious
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hello! rin here: ao3 has a lot of problems, and i've seen several really cool members of the wlw community are working on creating a different place to host fanwriting.
for now, my fics will be archived on this site so you can read them outside of ao3:
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that's why i believe that the one word is a clear example of the previously-considered-novelty "hivemind case": it's first person collective, but it isn't. it's second person direct collective, but it's really not. it's third person, but it's direct
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in the real world this single interaction would dominate the news cycle for weeks however because its colonialism and every superstructure is trying to bend reality there is another atrocity after atrocity and nothing gets to be the thing that gets talked about if at all
Israeli PM's office has confirmed that Israel declined to accept two Israeli hostages from Hamas, stating that they will not address what is considered to be "mendacious propaganda" by the group.
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...whereas GL doesn't have the same luxury to be explicit because the market of pornography for straight men is hostile to anything that doesn't cater to self-insertion, due to misogyny. i bet you that m/f/f content is FAR more popular than BL, for example.
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@jo_youwhatmate
right, but people are imitating the language of a "streamer" talking to "chat" while talking around their friends, with no chatbox or stream in sight, and even as a joke, it's legible as a communication to an audience. that's what i'm talking about not just streaming specifically
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ehhehe hello~ i wrote eimiko into a murder mystery. sorry makoto
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this is what i mean that transphobes hate trans women akin to how they hate ugly women rather than misogynistic men
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@hideyour_progy
on this point i would say it comes across as a little infantilizing to say that east asian cultures don't have the contextual awateness to be be antiracist or that east asian antiblackness is strictly misinformed. we—& at the very least companies—should be held to a higher regard
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yall act like this is a joke but im a grad student in literature and if u read abt his relationship with women and his own body image yiu'll know that franz kafka is quite possibly the eggiest historical figure that we know of like this person was 99% trans
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hello :3 i wrote an
#eimiko
murder mystery. sorry makoto
(chapter 2 is fully written and will be out in a few days!)
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i feel like all this gen-z are prudes shit they hate sex on tv is missing the fact that what the generation is so put off by is the capitalist compulsion of heterosexuality. they're put off by network/coorporate straight voyeurism of straight and gay sex alike.
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@bloomfilters
i really don't like when people prioritize specific characters or ships as though they were real people with privacy and qualities unto themselves and rights beyond analysis and discussion over the writing and construction of the medium itself
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@serialswaghaver
in this case, yes, because there is an actual chatbox, but in the jokey way gen-z says it, the way it's slowly becoming part of our lexicon, you could (cringily) say "chat is this thing on" casually at a real life event with a microphone, even if there is no chatbox
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ok then shut the fuck up
@nykopoi
So logically, the opposite is true. I don’t care for WLW, and I will never care for WLW. Not because I don’t want to support sapphics irl, but because, when it comes down to it, I would rather spent my free time unwinding with media about hot men then feeling like I’m obliged to—
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@serialswaghaver
i elaborated on another case in qrts, but the gist of it is you can refer to chat as a third entity while talking to someone who isn't chat, you can't use y'all in that scenario without implying that your conversation partner is part of y'all
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This “Hamas crisis actor” has become notorious for miraculously appearing in multiple Hamas propaganda videos in different roles and locations across the Gaza Strip.
Individuals across social media are calling Saleh “the man with more lives than a cat”.
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imagine turning into a god so you can consume the fucked up concept your lover has become so that you can put them out of their misery and be with them forever couldnt be me haha
yaoshi x lan i blame
@ElTERNlTY
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yet another hidden little friend in seoul (stop finding it and give other people a chance. you know who you are)
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the approach to plausible deniability for yuri/GL is through euphemism and signaling. miyazawa's this too is yuri is not like a coincidence, but a consequence of how even explicit stories of lesbian love are largely told through the negative/symbolic depiction of something else
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@serialswaghaver
you can say "chat they don't know" without being a streamer and it makes sense as a phrase, about what feeling is being conveyed, and a sense that the relationship between whoever's speaking and the listener is not direct but, rather, kind of parasocial
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@apollyonComes
the person distinction would be in the sense that the concept of "self" or "who is being referred to" becomes fuzzy in depending on its use. *if* it's a pronoun or becomes ubiquitous enough to be one, it would fulfil a niche that other words would have to stretch to fill
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in the same way, f/f doesn't garner as much support as well to m/m in places like ao3 precisely because it's by and large a market of uwu voyeurism. this is the reason that sfw content does far less well. but all we're saying is, should it be?
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and honestly the reason it's difficult is because of a growing cultural trend of pent up straight millenial women, a demographic very integral to fandom spaces, as voyeurs which has been apparent since superwholock and very visibly bleeding into the commercial publishing space
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the buzzword "representation" has done mote harm than good like. people should be expressing their own culture because that's where what is being expressed is most genuine. i dont want white people writing about my culture or straight people writing lesbians
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i think all people are asking for when they want as much recognition for and discussion of portrayals of lesbian relationships in the same fandom spaces is that we should pay more attention to positive and explicit and centering depictions and discussions about women in media
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i've written 100,000 words of honestly arguably submittable prose and cracked several eggs with my writing about trans experience and all my metrics combined wouldn't stack up to 2000 words of garbled nonsense that a fujoshi jotted down in their notes app in a horny daze
What is it with twitter lesbians and never putting the effort into sapphic work then raging when people suggest actually making the content they’re seeking? Open up google docs and get to work mamas.
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wyd with those fingers babygirl
hoyoverse always go so hard for raiden ei, her cards are broken AND pretty
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like this is a growing cultural trend outside of fanart and fanfic. YA romances being published nowadays in the west are written FOR straight adult women and booktok to read and i think that's crazy.
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its not biphobia i dont care if theyre bi or not i just dont think she likes HIM
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also i dont think people realize when we say "subtext" we're not talking about like. hc and theories but actual shorthands gay people use to refer to gay things in real life like when you say boo hoo at ppl explaining how queerness is expressed in subtext in asia its not about hc
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@1Kazuha
@magicalmona
ei is playable and outranks him in the actual political structure. thats like saying rosaria is actually the leader because the church is super important, even tho jean exists we're just gonna ignore her
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most transphobes just dont like women they think are ugly. transphobia is just a convenient excuse to call them men and justify the opinion that ugly women should be excized from society
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@jo_youwhatmate
like if i replied "chat get a load of this guy" right now, i wouldn't just be repeating a phrase i've heard before. i would be pretty obviously talking to, say, anyone who can interact with my tweet, even though i'm not streaming.
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“after all, i, at least, think you’re well worth loving, no?”
fic of miko breaking gorou's egg
(T, 4.8K, trans gorou)
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what's insane is that they wrote the isis of the "east" for harvard's, as if it is not very clearly far west of the actual isis: you would only say this if your imagination is only as wide as your US-centric worldview can take you.
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in a particularly dry and cloudless night, murata himeko falls to her death.
she smiles at you. that's the last thing she does. teasingly, defiantly, brilliantly. an ever-so-subtle twitch in the corner of her lips.
spiderverse AU
#kafhime
, 5.1k words.
the author fran kafka of earth-1883, bitten by a radioactive spider in 1914, and after having privately come out to her close friends as transgender, wrote about the angst of her transformation as a spider-person and as a trans woman, now travels the universe in service of cunt
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@rachrasterbutt
lads would be more along the lines of your typical second-person collective pronoun like "you guys"
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"did you know, general? that stars die?"
finding yourself isn't easy. what needs to happen after is even harder
a genshin fic about transition
(T, 19.5K, trans gorou)
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keqing, in her sleep: ��ganyu… sign these for me ganyu… please ganyu… i need… i need my bridge… its all i want please…”
#ganqing
, ganyu x havria reincarnation (except not really) fic, suggestive elements, 1/3 chapters
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no bc star rail kafka is out here serving cunt while irl kafka cried in a restaurant because his peach was too small?? 😭😭😭😭💀
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"i'll give it to you in cash" tell me how she opened her wallet just now and she still only had 7
this bitch opened the bank app to send me 10 dollars only to find 4 whole bucks in her bank acc 💀💀💀 someone please commission
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anyway
sage x viper, 25k words, post-divorce, sfw
Hot take 🌶️
This photo was the start of normalizing and inviting degeneracy into Valorant and starting the edating culture.
The fact they’re LGBT doesn’t matter, I’d be equally annoyed if they were hetero. Sexualization does not belong in video games.
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“we cry at the irreversibility of time, because it is, and will always be... too late. a demand for satisfaction that can never be satisfied, sustained by tears that express the fantasy that maybe...”
oh.
“...just maybe... it can.”
commission
the girl in the mirror whispers back to him.
‘let me love you’
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me and hu
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we need to talk about how much of a girlboy furina is. she's the most boy to ever have done it in this game and that's really important. handsome
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@petersterne
some conlangs make their 4th persons omniscient entities for just this reason. the thing is that abrahamic god identifies as a personage rather than a hivemind so for most generations the omniscience was seen more as a big guy watching from outside instead of from all around
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there is no longer an ease of suspension in the fact that this gaze exists in the context of a corporatized space of executives and straight male producers and academy for-you considerations and the inevitable persistent awareness of that is gross and offputting
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in most cases when people talk about "media literacy," what they mean, and this is what people who misuse that word don't understand, is that the community at large has confused a hermeneutic reading for an analytic one
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at least they're stories to you.
To my non-Israeli friends abroad, sharing with you just a small bit of what it's like to be an Israeli these days. We are being bombarded by horror stories. Each one of these would have been enough to cause you nightmares for a lifetime, but there are plenty, every day. We are
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@bloomfilters
i know a neurologist who works for esports teams to consult on reaction time and stuff like that and this myth is so dismissed off hand by any relevant researcher in the discipline that theyll laugh at you if you even asked them the question
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you never see criticism of the same young people being horny in otherwise online spaces. it's mostly white women in their 30s writing about how gen z is prudish because they can't comprehend why their corporatized, dissasociated autoheterophilia is losing favor with young ppl
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here we see a responsible researcher conducting a literature review before formulating their research question
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i really cant believe how popular my trans gorou fic is when you think about how it's sfw and non romantic and tagged wlw its kinda crazy how much less readership sfw wlw gets unless you work with zines or ship event weeks
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@yellowjackie09
i have no dice in this game but mean can u chill they didnt say they invnted it i think theyre just saying that its a preexisting genre
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happy pride! gorou is transfem
(commissioned art from
@345mong
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"did you know, general? that stars die?"
finding yourself isn't easy. what needs to happen after is even harder
a genshin fic about transition
(T, 19.5K, trans gorou)
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@PlatitudinousNT
the thing is, even though it's mostly in a jokey way, people are using "chat" in everyday life whilst not streaming and not chatting at all. this is why i argue that it might be becoming a pronoun
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@kyuhyjs
idk this person but they said the gender neutral "partner" that lesbians do really often use and not boyfriend! and the capti9n is the one that says boyfriend
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i'm heading into the military office for what is hopefully the last time, to get legal recognition for gender transition and classified out of conscription. im scared but i think i should have everything
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