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We are hilariously NOT extreme and NOT asking for anything wild. The Knots supporters are just asking for a conservative status-quo WHILE CORE only have a SPECULATIVE/THEORETICAL WEAK ARGUMENT in favor of filter removals.
@JaunSatoshi @adam3us @1hmle @LukeDashjr @_BitcoinCapital @nobody3638268 @eric_lombrozo @michelleweekley Satoshi added many mempool filters himself, also mentioning spam explicitly (famous Lady Gaga discussion with Andresen). Virtually all Core developers for years agreed with and built on this approach, including current champions of the removal path (you can find mentions in this
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Send us the list of your spam dust for reimbursement nvk We got this π€
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Bob: Rug the spammers. Alice: Why? Bob: Because they're not using bitcoin as money. Alice: We can't rug the spammers. Bob: Why not? Alice: Because then we'll rug people using bitcoin as money. Bob: Why are you retarded, Alice?
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The Slippery Slope works like this: 1. We're monetary maximalists who believe bitcoin should only be used as money. 2. We rug the spammers because they're harming bitcoin by not using bitcoin as money. 3. We rug people using bitcoin as money. It all makes complete sense.
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I've been thinking about The Cat and I'm getting really concerned that if we remove spam-dust UTXOs because we're monetary maximalists then the next step in the slippery slope will be for us to rug people using bitcoin as money.
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@rektsorekt @DudeJLebowski This is driving me crazy too. Everyone keeps talking like rugging the spammers dead utxos by running software that we choose to run will give the government a magical button to control our nodes ππ
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@nvk Sats are sacred. UTXOs may be sacred to you and me, but apparently not to the spammers.
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@A86664949 What is funny here is that you use "half the utxo set" rhetorically in your favour when to me this just highlights how detrimental the spam is and that action needs to be taken. In your world, if 99% of utxo were spam, you'd be saying "OMG you want to rug 99% of utxos!?!"
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As a cat owner, I am happy to see that Luke now likes Cats and will henceforth treat them with the utmost respect.
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One can argue that there is now a demarcation in time BC, BEFORE CAT AC, AFTER CAT Any spammers that create dust UTXOs from now on know EXACTLY what risk they're signing up for.
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The days of having sympathy for people who whine like this are over. Sellner, who has 148,100 followers, refuses to accept the solutions that are right in his hands, and heβs not unintelligent, so casual observers must conclude that his career and raison d'Γͺtre is complaining
Last week, another one of my bank accounts was shut down. Another bank refuses to accept payments from my membership platform. With some difficulty, I found a new payment provider and withdrew the funds there, but they only pay out to a physical bank account in Austria. However,
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@adam3us @BryanBSolstin @Loriss65 @lukedewolf Funny how almost all OG devs can be found historically saying the same things I still say.
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@lukedewolf @giacomozucco I had always assumed the core development team was composed of hardened cypher pinks who believed in hard money and human liberty What I discovered is that core is a cesspool of woke authoritarians They will destroy bitcoin if not countered
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@giacomozucco This whole OP_RETURN, 444/110, Cat situation has shown that the entire Core apparatus is extremely centralized. It's the biggest risk to Bitcoin as I see it.
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"it's just an ant"
@mattkratter Don't have one, but burning down the house to kill ants is not a viable path
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@mike_4131 @0xRastrent @Shireh0dl @btcbenchmark The only issue with your statement is that what you call "users" are sh|tcoiners, and these people are utterly irrelevant to the Bitcoin network. Of course these people have also no say, this is what you got with dust transactions with unspendable outputs.
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