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This is the AMAZING woman I had fighting my corner with me. We laughed. We cried. We worked bloody hard. AND WE WON.
An Employment Tribunal has found that Prof Jo Phoenix, represented by Annie Powell at Leigh Day, was discriminated against and harassed by her employer, the Open University, because of her gender critical beliefs. She won her claim for constructive dismissal.
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have received the Tribunal’s judgment in my case against the OU today: I won! The Tribunal found that I was discriminated against and harassed because of my gender critical beliefs, and that I was constructively dismissed.
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THANK YOU TO EVERYONE who supported be, put some pennies into my crowdjustice, bought me drink, sent me a message of support. THIS IS ALL OUR WIN. WE did this. There will be more tweets tomorrow, but for now I'm off to open a bottle of fizz and try to take it all in.
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UPDATE:
The
@OpenUniversity
and I have agreed a settlement. My legal case against them has now come to a conclusion. I am relieved that there is no need for a remedies hearing.
As you know, the panel found in my favour. I am sad that it took nearly 5 years of my life, over…
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The OU failed to protect me “because of fear being seen to support gender critical beliefs”. This is a message to all universities: you cannot stand back and allow gender critical academic to be hounded out their jobs.
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Incorrect Sally. Prostitution related offences are not included in sex offences and would not attract a prison sentence. Happy to help you understand how to read official criminal statistics along with my first year Criminology students. You see there are offence groups and…
Typically misleading and hyperbolic. The ‘70%’ is an extremely small % of the prison population. And, in this instance, ‘sex offences’ overwhelmingly mean sex work. If Rowling believes that people should be incarcerated for sex work, her class analysis is as dire as her feminism.
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THE JUDGEMENT IS IN AND ITS CONCLUSIVE.
have received the Tribunal’s judgment in my case against the OU today: I won! The Tribunal found that I was discriminated against and harassed because of my gender critical beliefs, and that I was constructively dismissed.
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The Tribunal found (inter alia!) that I was compared to a racist uncle. My colleagues orchestrated a hostile public campaign against me and gender critical research network with over 360 signing a public letter calling on the OU to close down my research group.
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1. BREAKING NEWS. After 18 months, University of Essex has concluded its review into the cancellation and disinvitation of me to speak. They have offered me an open apology including for infringing my freedom of speech.
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I resigned from
@OpenUniversity
last night. The University has allowed things to escalate to a point beyond repair. My trust and heart have been broken. As many of you know, I am taking the OU to the Employment Tribunal and will provide further updates on the case in the next
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Is it my imagination or are there now several academics on this platform scrubbing their feeds of statements like GC = transphobic?
🤷🏼♀️
Maybe the Phoenix judgement is being read and it’s got a few of them worried that they might be in the wrong side of employment law?
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Other colleagues made statements on the OU’s public website likening gender critical belief w/ an environment which endangers trans people’s lives, claiming that our gender critical research network was a deliberate provocation to trans ppl, & calling on the OU to shut us down.
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I’m taking the OU to court for failing to protect me from being harassed for gender critical beliefs. We need to stop this happening to any other academics. If you can support me financially or by amplifying my crowd justice funder, I’ll be very grateful
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I never thought I’d live to see women’s freedom of assembly in jeopardy. Never. Events having to be moved. Security needed. Speakers cancelled - including MPs.
This is not the democracy I want.
This is an authoritarian populist movement trying to close down women.
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These last three weeks have been challenging and difficult. We’ve put our case forward and now we wait.
Huge thank you to
@tribunaltweets
for their sterling work. The security staff at Watford Tribunal could not have been more pleasant and friendly.
Special thanks to all of…
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1. Prisons are not like anywhere else. Women in prison cannot remove themselves from the company of a person that makes them feel uncomfortable. They have no control over who they associate with.
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I am a lesbian. I love my uncivil partner. This post is coz this is my month too. I am tired of being told that my theoretical stance (that sex matters) shouldn't be uttered or mentioned during pride month.
#LesbianVisbility
#LesbianPride
#GetTheLOut
@saltwithoutpepa
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I know I am little emosh these days, but I am actually crying. Tears of joy. Tears of relief. What an amazing amount of support. I am (quite literally) overcome.
I do not know how to thank everyone beyond saying, again and again, thank you. Without all this support - big and…
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I’m going to say it again…. It’s a social science nonsense to say that *any* group is “the most vulnerable” or “the most marginalised” as we heard in House of Commons today re transgender. There is no methodology adequate to rank relative marginalisation or vulnerability. None.
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BOOM!
Statement by the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women and Girls, Reem Alsalem.
It is unequivocal in condemning the silencing, harassment and failure to protect women and girls for raising questions about gender identity.
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Newsflash: my case against my employer was filed with the Tribunal yesterday. I stand on 4 sets of shoulders:
@Docstockk
(fortitude)
@MForstater
(courage calls)
@akuareindorf
(clarity of mind) and the 3000+ ppl supporting me (strength)
THANK YOU
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I’m honoured to have had 👇🏻 woman as solicitor. Now Times lawyer of the week.
Please give Annie Powell all the love she deserves in my replies so that I can share them with her as we go into next phase (dealing with remedies).
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Day 3 of no more waiting:
In my half waking state this morning, I was thinking about the business of the morning, calculating whether I had time to hit the snooze button..... then BAM! I remembered. And the deepest smile spread throughout the entirety of my body.
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What many people will not know is that the photo I gave to WH was taken on the last day of the tribunal just before I went in. I took the picture to remember the day. I was proud of myself and all my amazing supporters for the fact that we made it that far.
Exclusive: Professor Jo Phoenix, who was compared to a 'racist uncle at the Christmas table' by university colleagues over her gender-critical views, has won an unfair dismissal claim against the Open University.
@JoPhoenix1
will be joining
@EmmaBarnett
to discuss at 10am ⬇️
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I’m pleased there will no be an appeal
I’d like remind ppl - the judgement was clear
1 the OU failed to act thru fear and
2 calls for discrimination or boycotts never had anything to do with AF.
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Yes it is. It really really is *that* simple.
Gender-criticals are claiming 'victory' in employment tribunals - but it's not that simple.
Here's why 🧵
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1/ I’m announcing I’ve been constructively dismissed from The Open University & I’ll be adding that to my claim in the Employment Tribunal. W/ reluctance I’ve increased crowdfunder target to £150K. W/ greater reluctance, I’m again asking for help.
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week or so.
But today I am delighted to announce that as of 1st January 2022, I will be moving to
@UniofReading
to become Professor of Criminology
@UniRDG_Law
. I am excited about working with law and criminology specialists, and about the next chapter in my academic career.
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When I grow old, I want to be Germaine Greer
"I think misogyny plays a big part in this...
That a man will be a better woman than someone who was born a woman."
"In your view, can he be a woman or not?"
"No."
"Do you understand how people feel that's insulting?"
"I don't care."
— Germaine Greer
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@KatyMontgomerie
@OpenUniversity
I expected you to say this. You have no idea of law (proven recently), no idea of civilised debate, no idea that the mark of a good society is the tolerance of difference and no idea of exactly how offensive your comments truly are - and if you do know how offensive they are to…
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You okay
@speakoutsister
? You seem very strangely obsessed with me and my judgment. Like 40+ tweets mentioning my name in 4 days.
Kinda weird. Esp as you show pretty much no understanding about legal judgments and what they mean.
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@zoesqwilliams
I am not sure what you mean? I was talking about my experiences and a legal judgement. Should I have been treated differently because of my GC beliefs?
Genuinely think that if Woman's Hour is going to give this much uncritical airtime to GCs, then for balance the BBC should have a Trans Ally hour where we get to complain about them _the entire time_.
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As ever. Spot on.
If your politics doesn't recognise the vulnerability of women and girls in prison, then I would suggest that your politics are far from emancipatory or progressive. They are regressive. They are politics that deny women's lived experiences and women's voice.…
The trans activist outrage that ensues on here whenever I share my belief that jailed women shouldn't be used as validation tools or emotional support props for trans-identified male sex offenders is as revealing as it's predictable.
Such activists can't bring themselves to…
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1/ Yesterday I went back to the OU to pack up my office, drop my keys and pass card off with security. 25 years ended with no party, no fanfare. It was a hard day made worse by this poster in the lift just outside my ex office door. Fat lot of good reporting it did me.
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You say tomato, I say Phoenix -v- The Open University.
Being a Gender Critic is NOT a protected characteristic
Religion/belief is a PC (unless the R/B is not worthy of respect)
In work a Belief that humans exist in 2 sexes can be a PC, but becoming a Gender critic outside your head by acting on your belief won’t be: it’s subtle
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@DrProudman
Your point is what? It should be that the prison staff and governors of that prison absolutely 100% FAILED in their jobs, or that we need to figure out better ways to address violence in men's prisons.
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Before you all get caught up in the sadness of my story (and happiness of eventual victory) please take a minute to appreciate that my dog Poppy made it into the national press
#Poppylifegoals
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Have they learned nothing? It will be very interesting to see how
@EdinburghUni
react to what looks remarkably familiar to the open letter organised against
@OU_GCRN
by academics- except this one is more obviously and entirely and openly linked to Simon Fanshawe.
What’s even…
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It’s strange to be in Daily Mail. I thank the journalist for the write up. She makes me sound like a better version of me than the one I know. I do like the photos though.
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I could not have done this without
@Womans_Place_UK
support.
"The Tribunal found that I was discriminated against and harassed because of my gender critical beliefs, and that I was constructively dismissed."
Congratulations to Prof Jon Phoenix
@JoPhoenix1
#WPUKicons
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“It is partly a tale of how the bullying … is given an acceptable gloss … But it is also a story of the cowardice of leaders, of bystanders looking the other way”
Thank you
@soniasodha
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1/ A mini thread in the bleeding obvious: Stonewall's lobbying started an attempt to redefine the category 'women' in a way that ended up being antithetical to much feminist thinking and politics, especially those versions concerned with male violence, safeguarding & justice.
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Update:
Today - 2nd October. Day 1 done.
Tomorrow - 3rd October is a reading day.
Wednesday - 4th October will begin the evidence giving and cross examination.
I will start and am expected to be cross examined for two days.
Remember - as Maya Forstater put it, the…
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What I didn’t think to say at the time:
Police failed twice in doing anything. Took political intervention and a viral complaint (not great as far as policing response goes!)
Yet 2 years post
@MForstater
ruling police *still* said ‘TERFs’ aren’t a protected characteristic.…
'Perhaps the most shocking and disturbing normalisation of violence against women that I’ve seen for a very long time.'
Jo Phoenix on ex-male-convict Sarah Jane Baker, who identifies as a woman, telling the crowd at a trans activist rally to "punch a terf in the ******* face".
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NEWSFLASH: WE hit the target in 17 days. £80k crowdjustice fund donations. I’m crying w/ relief. Thank you everyone. The generosity is INSANE. After so long of feeling alone, I have been surrounded by an army of women and men who recognise that this is an important struggle.
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1/ Saturday morning rage thread - pls read to end:
I started openly criticizing Stonewall, the idea that TWAW & the campaign for self-ID in 2018 - as part of my job.
I signed a letter to The Guardian & The Sunday Times openly critical of Stonewall & its impact on Universities.
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@adamdavidson
I was subjected to a public harassment campaign and hounded out of my job by
@OpenUniversity
failure to act. Before that I was unlawfully blacklisted and my lecture actually cancel cancelled
@Uni_of_Essex
which led to a public apology. There are objective facts of cancellation.
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It is a privilege and pleasure to move to a University that truly values interdisciplinary research and teaching, and that has demonstrated its commitment to upholding and protecting academic freedom.
A slightly longer statement can be found here
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@KatyMontgomerie
@KatyMontgomerie
Do you really want to get into the details of this topic with me? I have spent since 1993 researching prostitution, prostitution policy reform, the policing of prostitution and so on. I *do* have data - 3 decades of data. The argument that TW end up in prison for…
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In order to get out of twitter jail, I decided to delete a tweet they deemed as violating their rules.
The tweet? I drew a distinction twix misogyny & sexism and transphobia. I did this on the day I got called a bitter old hag and was likened to a nazi.
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10/ I wish I felt vindicated. I don't. I am angry as hell. I have fought tooth and nail to be able to talk about this. It cost me my health and my job at the OU and might cost me my economic security.
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📢📢📢
Here is my review of the data provided by Correctional Services Canada on the total population of gender diverse prisoners in the federal prison system over a couple of years.
Turns out - many of the claims that we made about the disproportionate numbers of incarcerated…
In this new commentary,
@JoPhoenix1
notes that if transwomen prisoners retain what can be called 'male pattern offending’, this would bring 3 interrelated problems into women’s prisons: "need for increased security... increased risk of sexual violence... &... de-prioritisation of…
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A Cautionary Story:
1. This is an everyday tale of excluding the contribution of gender critical research perspectives to the knowledge base (a.k.a. 'the chilling effect' in academia)
@TheLancet
@OU_GCN
@ProfAliceS
@fairplaywomen
@NoXYinXXprisons
@LucyHunterB
@lnmackenzie1
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708 days ago I launched my crowdjustice fund appeal to help pay for the costs of taking The Open University to an employment tribunal for failure to protect me against harassment and discrimination on the basis of my gender-critical beliefs. This ended with me adding constructive…
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Thread with 12 FACTS for
@zoesqwilliams
astonishingly ignorant statement: "Beneath every confected outrage about ... trans prisoners".
@NoXYinXXprisons
@SexMattersOrg
@bsc_wccjn
Fact 1. the total trans prison population is unknowable.
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5/ Call yourself what you want. There will always be a group of lesbians who will say NO to the idea that lesbianism includes men.
And we have that absolute right.
Over and out--
--Diehard Lesbian With Politics.
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1/ In which
@billybragg
shows that he doesn't read properly and is not aware of why I won my court case. The issue is not belief. It is *conduct* Billy. I did not call you a sexist prick. I used an illustrative example.
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Each day there is a different paragraph which really hits me. This is para 617 which confirms what I claimed all along. The open letter was an act of harassment
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Fair warning - I am now using my block button. I am under no obligation to engage with parole who call me prejudiced or insult me on this platform.
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@ShahrarAli
1/ I think one reason we are all so glued to the hearing is that Ben is basically forcing engagement with the actual arguments. Because it is a court hearing, CGD ppl can’t just leave it at ad hominem ‘you’re a transphobe’ and the vexatious accusations.
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7. KILLER PARA: "As for indirect discrimination, the decision taken in relation to Prof Phoenix may contribute to indirect sex discrimination against women at the University, on the basis that more women than men tend to hold (and publicly express) gender critical views."
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I can vouch for this. My crowdjustice fund raised £231k over a two year time period. Every single penny counts. And, personally, I was as thankful for the £1 donations as I was for the large donations. I was always deeply touched by the small donations. So many people who donated…
@Gillian_Philip
@fharris2011
@JeanHatchet
@elniedunne
@HennieInglis
@ForWomenScot
Literally every £ counts. From each according to their ability, as a notorious TERF who believed women were oppressed due to their sex once said.
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@wmarybeard
I have long since been a fan and genuinely appreciate the flak you have taken over the course of your career - simply for being a woman in academia.
So much of the interview here is fabulous.
I was tremendously disappointed to read that you think the cancel culture…
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The judgment is published:
have received the Tribunal’s judgment in my case against the OU today: I won! The Tribunal found that I was discriminated against and harassed because of my gender critical beliefs, and that I was constructively dismissed.
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Was going to RT by thought it needed own tweet. These horrific offences were committed by this individual whilst identifying as a man. There is a need to have clean data, esp where sex offending is concerned. .
@NoXYinXXprisons
@SexMattersOrg
@ProfAliceS
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IWD - a rage tweet
I’m not wishing ppl a ‘happy’ IWD. ‘Happy’ makes no sense unless IWD is what Pride has become - a ridiculous depoliticised commercialised ‘celebration’. In this case though,
#Iwd
(X won’t let me write IWD without a woman’s symbols) celebrations focus on…
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Dear Professor Hines
I hope you agree with me that our little twitter spats are not terribly productive for either of us. I will not be engaging in any further such exchanges.
It is clear we come from very different theoretical positions. You seem to be showing an interest in…
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1/ I have taught criminological theory for over 20 years. Every year I teach Cohen’s Folk Devils and Moral Panics. And every single time I see that the concerns of women and girls re defending sex-based rights and the political legitimacy of women-as-a-class being written off…
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I am overwhelmed, so grateful for the support this morning. Can't believe we met the target so quickly. I have a stretch target of £80k to cover the whole case. Please help so that I don't have to put my home on the line to take this case.
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Lovely Sunday morning.
Things I no longer have any patience or time for.
Academics who think twitter/X reflects actual reality.
Academics who do not understand the status of the Cass Report and are rubbishing it. I have never seen Reports like the MacPherson Report, Scarman…
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Fact 4. Transwomen in the male estate have disproportionately higher rates of sexual offending than men in the male estate (roughly 2.5 times more).
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@jk_rowling
Thank you
@jk_rowling
I’m still trying to take it all in. I think it’s a monumental win.
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How many of us who were out as dykes in 1980s wore chinos and Doc Martens? Levi 501 (men’s)? flannel shirts? How many had flat top hair cuts?
80s dyke fashion laughed in the face of gender stereotyping. I hate that our history has been co-opted and represented as queer.
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Many years ago, I worked at Durham University. I did a lot of things of which I am very proud. I established a School of Pharmacy (now located in Newcastle University).
I founded The Centre for Sex, Gender and Sexualities which ran for many years.
One of my happier days was…
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Why is criminology absent from the discussion on gender identity? What is the evidence about transgender prisoners? Why don't criminologists stand in defense of women?
What Do We Stand For?, by
@JoPhoenix1
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Oh
@billybragg
you are really rather silly and tied yourself into a bit of a knot.
Open carry is not a belief. Brandishing a gun is nothing like expression of a protected belief.
Silly Billy.
1/2 Seems to me that the rules about protected belief are similar to the conceal carry laws in the US - you have the right to carry a gun in a public place, but if you start waving it around in a manner that intimidates people, you will face sanctions
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Oh dear
@IndiaWilloughby
you do realise that you can never be a suffragette? Punk or no. You already have suffrage. Govt is not revoking your protections under EqA2010.
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Been thinking about this overnight.
@stephenwhittle
your tweet bears an uncanny resemblance to the open letters in my ET against OU. You have published this to the world - if your beef was what the schools did the proportionate response would be to write to them.
You make a…
What head of school lets this anti-trans hate group in?
Better be a school without public funding or the head is failing their obligations under the Eq Act s.149 public sector duty obligations to:
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Day 4 post Phoenix judgement:
In addition to the mysterious absence of previously tweeted degrading and insulting accusations of GC academics being ipso facto transphobic from various well known academic Twitter feeds, we also have this:
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What a brilliant picture. Thank you
#JoPhoenixWins
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9/ Then another job move and safe harbour.
The rest is now history, as they say.
But today, I want to reflect on the journey. I nearly died. Yet here I am. Still standing. Still fighting. And wonderfully happy to see the sun.
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This is a subtweet - and a bit lengthy. Thank goodness I pay for a subscription (and yes, that's a passive aggressive jibe at the passive aggressive criticism of me).
For the ill informed:
There was once a sociologist ( I suppose we would call him a criminologist these days)…
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#NotaPlaceofSafety
The women of
@WomensRightsNet
made FOI requests of all police forces and the data showed that even decades after Jimmy Savile, hospitals remain places where women and children experience sexual violence.
This is a feminist issue.
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1 I’m enraged by
@Keir_Starmer
. Today, Guardian covered a story about the prison officers receiving counselling after failing to answer the calls for help from an 18 yo remand girl who gave birth and then cradled her dead child for 12 hours. She didn’t get counselling.
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I don’t even know where to start with this. Both of the *children* who committed this awful act are not simply pawns / dupes of a Tory culture war. They are children with some very serious and pathological issues. To simplify it to make cheap political points is disgusting.
Heartbreaking. Just Heartbreaking. Listening to this Father's love for his trans Daughter Brianna is powerful.
This cruel government has created so much hate towards the trans community they should be ashamed.
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Popped across to the other side of the twittersphere this morning to find some TRAs also finding some of the reactions to sentencing remarks of Brianna Ghey’s murder troubling.
One went so far as to say that tras and allies who are revealing with punitive glee in the sentences…
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In which a Professor of Sociology fails to understand the nature of the law and of legal judgement.
I’ve read the OU tribunal decision and here are a few things that particularly jumped out:
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@sally_hines
Sally, they found I was constructively dismissed and unfairly dismissed. Do you understand the law in this area? My resignation was forced by OU breaching its contract to me. That is what constructively dismissed means.
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Last time I checked
@KatyMontgomerie
you are far far far away from being an academic.
"Gender Critical" = transphobic. That isn't remotely controversial.
GC people want to remove trans people's human rights and don't have rational reasons to do so
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Rayner saying women's fears re loss of right to single sex space is not real.
What you say below is flat wrong
@AngelaRayner
. The fear is based on realities of male violence & nothing to do w/ trans ppl.
Your position is not held up by 5 decades of evidence.
"Transgender women's rights are women's rights."
Angela Rayner's passionate response as this trans caller asks if a Labour Government would "fix" transphobia in the UK.
@AngelaRayner
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Does anyone know how I can get in touch with this incredible poet who is in Twitter gaol right now? And what a blinder of a poem. Can’t stop listening to it. Now THIS is intersectionality.
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LONG TIME COMING ESSEX but thank you to the VC and the exec for undertaking this review and publishing it. It's findings and recommendations are an important counterbalance to the attacks on gender critical views and gender critical research.
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I am so mindful that
@RosieDuffield1
@RosieKayK2CO
and many other women do not have the legal means by which to have their complaints heard.
And my heart breaks for them.
As bad as it was, at least I had my day in court.
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This is serious misinformation and exceedingly irresponsible.
Whoever came up with the graphic has precisely zero understanding of what a review by a senior clinician is about.
I thought twice about QTing because I think it is sort of propogandist critique of research and…
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