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My views on Covid, restrictions, masks, testing and the role governments play has changed wildly in the past 2 years.
Has anyone not changed their positions on most Covid related things since Jan 20?
I was pro lockdown, pro mask, pro governments stepping in, etc. Now I'm not.
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This seems like common sense to me. Same for age of consent, age to join the military, etc.
You're either old enough to make an adult decision or not. No?
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If Australia closes the International border on nothing but unsubstantiated fear, this country is beyond hope or fixing.
If Omicron is actually insanely infectious it will bypass any international border controls anyhow. It's a totally useless step.
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@macroliter
Gregg absolutely did not deserve to be hounded so badly for going unmasked.
However, he did the exact same thing to
@DrLeanaWen
. Literally hounded her non stop for no longer pushing masks enough for his liking.
He's a victim of his own making.
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This is a perfect example of how broken Covid has made people.
You can't convince me that this person was a normal, functional member of society prior to Covid. Someone that enjoyed the holidays and being around family and friends, etc.
Covid is merely an excuse.
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@_mbdr_
Life is fantastic!
Traveled internationally. Saw family / friends. Worked a large successful convention. Got a mild case of covid, my first, fully recovered.
Flew home and have been to 4 wineries, two days of a wine festival, and hung out with friends and hitting the gym hard.
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Today would be an amazing day to allow fully vaccinated people to return to Australia in unlimited numbers and go straight to their homes, rather than wasting time and money in hotel quarantine.
Hotel quarantine serves no purposes in NSW/VIC for the fully vaccinated! End it now!
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@PaulMainwood
Wow... talk about missing the point and finding an irrelevant point instead...
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This one is simple.
Yes. That is what our plan is. To keep getting covid over and over until we die of old age or perhaps a car accident or perhaps a gun shot or perhaps drowning on margaritas while reading insanely stupid ZC tweets like this.
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@NicoReznick
This never happened.
Why do you feel the need to make up totally fictional scenarios and tweet them publicly?
I don't understand the motivation at all.
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@PRGuy17
So Australia would have had over 2x more deaths per capita than the US?
Do you honestly believe the Australian medical system is twice as bad as the US? Or the general health of the population is twice as bad in Australia?
I'm really curious how anyone could believe this.
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Today would be a good day to abolish all border restrictions in Australia.
Why on earth do any quarantine requirements exist? Why can tourists not enter freely?
Covid is more prevalent in Australia than most of the world. Yet the border is shut to most of the world. Why?
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@denise_dewald
I do absolutely nothing differently today than I did in 2019. It's over for me.
Thankfully, you're allowed to change your behavior for as long as you want.
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@covidbaseau
Hello :)
Awesome you can all now be part of your own statistics! (well, I guess officially tomorrow you should be)
You three pull off some awesome work!
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@JacobBAguilar
No modeling shows it to be the deadliest wave. That's not just misinformation, it's an outright lie.
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Today would be an amazing day to allow all NSW and VIC residents / families of residents who are trapped overseas to return and quarantine at home with the rest of the population.
Zero downside. Huge upside.
Why are we waiting?
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@PRGuy17
@DanielAndrewsMP
I'm glad you support picnics for VIC like you did for NSW, good to see consistency.
You did support NSW being told they could picnic right? I'll have to go back and check. But I'm sure you would be consistent.
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Look at this ludicrous paper at the LC hearings in Washington.
The numbers listed are just ridiculous. We know from high quality studies that basically none are true.
I'm truly embarrassed at the misinformation being given to Congress.
At the Senate hearing on long covid, chaired by
@BernieSanders
(recovering from his own recent covid bout).
Room is packed — overwhelmingly by people wearing masks — with a spillover crowd and advocates sharing handouts for .
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@GeorgeMonbiot
This is a load of rubbish. Moralizing a virus is a huge problem.
We should be objectively looking at which interventions have the most impact for the least societal harm. Not calling people good or bad based on if they want to sacrifice enough for your personal taste.
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@jadabird
I think someone should tell you about vaccines. They're amazing.
If you don't feel comfortable in the regular world anymore, that's totally fine. You take your time. No one should attack you for that. But you should also accept others aren't as afraid as you are.
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Christina is getting absolutely piled on by both ZC nutters and anti vaxxers here because she dares to state plainly that severe disease related to covid is dropping and the vaccines have played a role.
Both extremists are furious.
Welcome to team reality. The center is nice.
Some good news on Covid - acute deaths involving it halved in 2023 vs 2022 and are far far lower than the first 2 years of the pandemic.
Of course, 17K deaths is still a lot and a significant issue but it's good that boosters are doing their job.
But not enough boost... 1/3
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Imagine throwing 4 years of your life away because you have been misled about the risks and thus have irrational anxiety over catching a respiratory illness.
People like elly are the victims of grifters like EFD, AJ, etc. These people have destroyed lives on their hands.
whomst else up ugly crying about being in the fifth year of a pandemic that could've been over by now and all of the things you might never get to do again? I just wanna be able to go to a bar or a poetry show and have a mocktail and meet someone interesting but I cannot
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No... Just no. This is everything wrong with MD's who pontificate on Twitter.
You do not get to make everyone anxious and mislead them simply to fulfill your pet anxiety.
This is damaging in so many ways and harms the medical profession as well as the concept of health advice.
If you’re all of a sudden having weird symptoms: extreme fatigue, numbness/pain, chest pain, acid reflux, irritable bowel, shortness of breath, dizziness, changes in senses, onset of diabetes or other autoimmune diseases, & you previously had COVID… you’ve now entered Long COVID
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Irene is incredibly brave combating the ZC crowd.
She's telling them a truth they don't want to hear. And she cops a ton of abuse for it.
But it's something everyone will have to accept at some point. Covid is here to stay and immunity is our only real defense now.
Dear Americans,
Please don't fool yourself - you cannot stop COVID from going into schools by masking up your children.
COVID will continue to spread as long as there are sufficient susceptible individuals around.
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@Raf_Epstein
And ultimately Nsw's approach worked better than VIC's.
That's what happens when an elected politician takes on board health advice and then takes advice from many other smart people too and makes a decision marrying up all that advice.
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@billbowtell
This is blatant misinformation.
Florida has absolutely zero covid restrictions. None.
NSW is in a lockdown.
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@EpiEllie
No, this isn't the argument. It's a strawman.
The concept is that if you delay infections for a couple of years that you'll suddenly get a lot of infections all at once, which can overwhelm the system if no one prepares for it. Which is what just happened.
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@ElleSteinhagen
So... You're very clearly showing masks do not work... You realize that, right?
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@Pammieoz
Your tweet is infuriating to so many young people stuck in quarantine to protect you even though they've done the right thing and took the first vaccine they could.
I can't see my family or do my job properly because the borders are closed because of this attitude.
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This is complete misinformation and should be flagged as such.
No immunity would mean each infection kills more than the last. It would mean we'd see more people infected every single day with no abating.
This isn't possible.
It also would mean vaccines are useless.
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@PRGuy17
@DanielAndrewsMP
Hmm, this looks troubling:
93.6% of your followers didn't think NSW should have picnics when their cases were surging. VIC's cases are surging now.
Apparently your followers are going to HIGHLY disagree with allowing picnics in VIC!
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Omg...
I just witnessed pure insanity in this thread.
People have truly been broken by Covid. And now again by Monkeypox.
How will these people ever recover and become normal functioning people again?
I'm truly unnerved right now.
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The Spanish flu went from 1918-1920.
It died out because of immunity. People stopped getting as ill, so people stopped caring and went back to life as usual. The same that has already occured for C19.
Evan here is the example of a person totally misled by ZC garbage.
The Spanish flu went from 1918 - 1920.
It died out because:
1. People masked.
2. People isolated.
3. Fewer people travelling - particularly by air.
4. No antibiotics so many people died from secondary
infections - hence slowing down its spread.
5. No vaccines available to
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The irony of the CDC posting this...
The US has been one of the worst offenders of pushing masking on tiny kids when we know there's no efficacy but tons of harm.
#DidYouKnow
smiling is a developmental milestone for babies? Celebrate
#WorldSmileDay
by making silly faces to make your baby smile 😊. Visit to find other milestones you can track.
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Mehdi is getting eaten alive by his own people for this tweet.
How dare he be unmasked in public! The horror!
Ignore the fact that 95% of the public is behaving identically and has been for well over a year now.
The ZC cult is going to break soon with behavior like this.
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@DrCaliff_FDA
This is wild misinformation and not even close to what the study showed. This is terrible. You should know how to read a study. Please delete this!
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This is terrible misinformation all around.
The UK data shows ~2% have LC at 4-12w and that would drop by ~66% more at 13w.
It also shows that less than 100 people have had Covid 4 distinct times in 2.5 years. That's about the same amount who get injured by lightning in the UK.
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Wouldn't today make a great day to end hotel quarantine in NSW and VIC?
It serves no purpose. Let everyone come home now!
Stop wasting stranded Australian's time and money!
Stop wasting government resources!
End this insanity! Have some humanity! Get people home now!
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This is blatant misinformation and fear mongering. No credible expert believes this will happen.
Why isn't there a Twitter misinformation label?
@TwitterSupport
Does Twitter like scary misinformation for engagement?
In near future, we will get a novel SARS-CoV-2 variant which does not induce any symptoms (fever, cough, nausea, etc.) at the time of infection, but causes chronic health problems (fatigue, poor sleep, mental disorder, etc.) from few weeks later.
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@alexmeshkin
Almost everyone has gone back to living normally for 6-12+ months now.
There's truly only a few rare people, primarily those anxious enough to follow a grifter like you, that have yet to return to normal.
One day you'll return to normal too.
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@CT_Bergstrom
Gregg didn't even remotely deserve the harassment he got for his rather logical, sensible transition to some maskless situations.
However he hounded others relentlessly for their transition away from masks. He's not an innocent victim. He's a victim of his own making.
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Closed beaches, the stupidest thing in modern history.
Perspex screens.
Masks worn into bars, removed when you get a drink.
Pausing j&j / AZ to stop a tiny % of clots.
Masks on planes (best air filtration anywhere).
Shut playgrounds.
Deep cleans.
Ivermectin.
Curfews.
Which of the covid “protective measures” was the most ridiculous? I’m going for the Perspex screens 🤷♀️🤦♀️
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Imagine being so ignorant that you buy a co2 monitor and not understand how it works.
Jfc
@united
, the air quality on this flight is horrifying and one, maybe two other people on this full flight of 170 people are wearing a mask. A reading like this means air is not circulating. CO2 itself at these levels are unhealthy, not to mention viruses being breathed out.
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Read the comments and quote tweets.
Bob is getting eaten by his own.
It's truly unfortunate that the extreme left, which I used to think I was part of, is so unable to accept the science behind infx derived immunity.
a) I've been considering a Covid infection to be the equivalent of a booster in terms of protection against reinfection & severe disease (hospitalization/death). These study results indicate that it is at least that good, maybe even a bit better... (2/7)
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Covid, over the past 12 months, has now dropped to the
#12
cause of death in the US, behind flu (10th) and kidney disease (11th).
Within a few months you should expect Covid to drop below Septicemia and Parkison's as well to drop to 14th.
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@DrPieterPeach
A mandate for cloth masks is harmful to society as they provide no protection for anyone.
An n95 mandate isn't practical and won't be supported by many.
So the only practical solution is no mandates but for high risk people to wear an n95 of their own accord.
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Apparently Australia decided not to keep me out.
Headed back now, first class upgrade and all. Apparently very few people want to come to Australia?
Oh wait, almost no one is allowed because of... No reason whatsoever. Why isn't the border totally open?
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@olderpets
@apsmunro
Look, if there's no evidence to support something and people want to do it then that's fine. Use healing crystals all you want.
But if governments are going to mandate interventions there should be legitimate evidence to support them, KPI to judge effectiveness, goals, etc.
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@DrRupaMarya
Words no longer have meaning apparently.
'literally did nothing' is an outrageous lie and you know it. Shame on you.
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All of the irrationally anxious covid people are now freaking out about measles too.
They truly are anti vaxxers at heart. They don't believe they work and they're desperate to be anxious about everything.
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This tweet and the responses are truly horrifying.
At some point these people will have to re-enter normal society.... how?
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It's shameful for someone to put Dr in their title while spreading this kind of blatant misinformation.
This causes unneeded fear and panic in gullible people who buy into it and don't actually try to find factual information.
I assume everyone has Long Covid whether or not they have symptoms or self-report. It's nearly impossible for anyone to have made it this far in the pandemic without a loss of T cell function, an accumulation of SARS2 particulate, or lingering inflammation from Neurocovid. :/
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This is beyond ridiculous.
43% prevalence of long covid around the world.
That's so high as to mean we'd all likely know dozens of people with it.
If your study points to a result that isn't plausible, perhaps it's time to go back and figure out why?
🚨The so far largest meta-analysis of more than 1.5 million infected individuals puts the global prevalence of
#LongCovid
at 43%. Some additional key findings. 🧵
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@Leftylockdowns1
I was in FL for a month in Dec/Jan, it was the most relaxed I've been in 2 years.
Every day life in Australia is simply more stressful due to all the measures in place that aren't even helping anything anymore.
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@sdbaral
What amazes me is that people who quote the precautionary principle in regard to restrictions are very happy to cause harm 'just in case'.
Irony is apparently very dead.
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Imagine being the lead author of a study and Deepti comes around and lies about your study to fear-monger.
What do you do?
This, you do exactly this. Fantastic.
@dgurdasani1
@Rklawton
@Nature
Hi I am the senior author in the Covid study and I was also an author on the hepatitis study. You have this entirely wrong. We don’t show anything in the latest study regarding T cell response mediated by HLA-DRB1*04:01. Please don’t use our work for misinformation.
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@SmithDanaG
This is yet another example of why people are losing trust in public health.
We can see everywhere in the world that masks have failed to do anything. Yet a few health departments still push them.
Masks are burning public trust while providing basically no benefit to society.
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@LizHighleyman
@rkfmiller
I feel like anyone who even tries to suggest that with a straight face should instead be diving back into their data to see what they missed.
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Lockdowns. Why did I support them? We didn't know enough about Covid. We had no idea just how bad things could get. Hospitals were filling very fast. Much better safe than sorry in an information void.
Why don't I now? Vaccines, past infections, and the data showing those work.
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Why do not want masks now? Data. Every high quality study shows basically no benefits from cloth and surgical masks. But we're also at year 2, not short term anymore. As well almost no one wears them properly and we don't have enough n95 for the pop nor are they fit tested.
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@CaseyBriggs
@theage
So all the people screaming that NSW was hiding things... Fudging numbers...
I expected they'll be outraged by this?
OK. We know they won't say a single word. The hyper partisanship around Covid19 is a huge problem.
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In news that isn't news to most people.
Post viral syndrome is of course a thing. People get long term effects from all sorts of illnesses. And they sometimes don't seem related.
Why is this shocking to anyone?
Covid was never unique in this.
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@Mon4Kooyong
If you can't speak in a mask then is there any wonder 90% of the population is deciding not to wear them?
If you can't start with yourself then your argument isn't strong enough.
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To further expand on this thought.
Delta broke out of quarantine repeatedly over and over all of 2021 and even when locking down on day 1 of an outbreak, it couldn't be contained.
If Omicron is equally or more infectious, it cannot be contained either.
Border closure = useless
If Australia closes the International border on nothing but unsubstantiated fear, this country is beyond hope or fixing.
If Omicron is actually insanely infectious it will bypass any international border controls anyhow. It's a totally useless step.
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@profesterman
So we need masks as "virtue signaling"? That's your argument?
Masks simply don't work at the population level. Cloth and Surigcal masks do nothing vs airborne transmission. It's simple. This isn't really debated.
If you want to stop airborne you need a perfectly fitted n95.
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@drkerrynphelps
This is literally the worst tweet you've written. You should delete it.
It is literally impossible for a vaccine to cause Long Covid. They may have very rare side effects, but those are not Long Covid.
This is 100% anti-vaxx messaging and if anyone listens, will cause harm.
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The CDC keeps doubling down on "noble lies".
This is not OK. The CDC needs to do better.
All this does is make 95% of the population roll their eyes while 5% actually get more anxious and some of those actually withdraw further from society.
This messaging causes harm.
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This is such an awesome response to AJ the grifter.
He's intentionally misled so many because of his lack of knowledge, lack of expertise and all around ignorance.
Nice to see him called out for it by an actual scientist.
@fitterhappierAJ
Well good thing you’ll never sit on any promotions, grant review, or awards committee for me- or, to be fair, for anyone else! Because you only pretend to be a scientist on Twitter! LMAO what an absolute dork con artist.
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@deniseshrivell
Guess you wasted your time and efforts being careful.
Hope you recover as fast as most do from Omi.
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The 'I'd prefer HIV to covid' crowd is growing exponentially.
Really scary people.
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I believe it's time to stop calling people ZC'ers.
Instead they should be called immunity deniers. As that is a near universal shared belief that drives their ZCism.
It gets to the heart of the issue much faster.
These people can thus also be called neo anti vaxxers.
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@macroliter
@DrLeanaWen
This is the problem with the extreme ZC and ZC-adjacent now. They cannot show even a hint of rational thought regarding the relaxing of restrictions or they'll be eaten alive by the very movement they created.
It's terrible. But they should have not used these techniques either.
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@GregDore2
I'm a Florida resident living in SA.
Florida has the least restrictions of any state in the US. Basically zero.
NSW would be considered a jail compared to the strongest restrictions anywhere in the US.
Bill Bowtell is clearly misinformed or is intentionally spreading misinfo.
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@sinebrien
This really isn't making the point you think it is.
You're so so close to getting it, yet somehow miss the most basic answer.
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@Ride4Truth
Wow, the hatred and lack of civility you have your parents is digusting.
They apparently did a very poor job instilling manners and respect into you. Also clearly failed to teach you how to think critically and learn real risk tolerance.
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One of the most ghoulish tweets you'll ever seen on Covid Twitter.
This person is not a good person.
My neighbors refuse to mask & say the pandemic is “over.”
Tues I saw wife putting garbage out & asked about husband?
“Oh, he’s inside with that covid cold.”
That “covid cold” killed him. Coroner taking out the body now.
Wear a mask. 😷
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@CrabbBrendan
They've been reported on every single day... Not out of sight at all. They're discussed more than basically any other deaths in the world? What on Earth are you talking about?
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EFD is now a GBD proponent?
Is this real life?
Who's paying this guy? He isn't a legitimate account.
5) I like this next one:
📌Find all high risk people with cardiovascular disease, COPD, diabetes, kidney disease, cancers, and immunocompromised in area — and target risk management and for vaccinations.
📌Non high risk areas shall not restrict movement of people or workers
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Here's a little illustration of Covid with an R0 of 18 and "No Immunity". Two very popular talking points of the ZC community lately.
By the 4th reproductive period (16 days) ~105 billion people are infected. The population of Earth is ~7.753 Billion (give or take).
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Early morning in Sydney.
Last time I'll see it for a long while I suspect.
Australia has been a fantastic place to live for the past 5 or so years. But now it's back to the US and Florida.
Back to 'normality' in a few ways I suppose. But also back to insanity.
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This is everything wrong with the ZC misanthropes.
Totally dismissing emotional and psychological harm in most of the population, especially kids, because it isn't physical harm.
When will society understand. Psychological harm can be WORSE than physical harm??
@AlexisKat6
@longcovidthots
@MartyMakary
Oh boo hoo. Kids missed out on prom while millions of people can’t get out of bed or have to be on 10 different meds just to go to the bathroom. I honestly don’t give a fuck about kids being sad they couldn’t hang out with friends.
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@mail_american
@mattyglesias
But prices didn't go up at all because Biden offset the drop. Thus SA is selling less oil at the same or less money, meaning a huge loss in revenue.
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I understand not everyone has yet made this transition yet. I know some made it a while before me. I know some are further along this path than I am.
But one thing I know. Nearly everyone will take this journey at some point. Very few people go the opposite direction.
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@AstorAaron
95% of these people are broken and most were either already broken before Covid or were on the verge of being broken.
They are generally either misanthropes or germaphobes or both.
And almost all are hardcore ZC.
I pity them, but I also fear them. They want lockdowns.
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Obviously true, factual tweet.
Responses? Totally wackadoodle.
There's a lot of very broken people that cannot comprehend the situation is better than they thought it would be.
The idea that SARS-CoV-2 causes general & persistent immune compromise is not supported by findings from top research groups with deep expertise in such analyses. Posts Exaggerate Lab Findings About COVID-19’s Impact on Immune System via
@factcheckdotorg
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@Kit_Yates_Maths
I've had a few colds or allergies every year of my life. I've still never had covid.
But yup, totally fine adding covid to the list of minor illnesses I might get each year. Much better than the alternative of adding in restrictions that likely wouldn't even have any impact.
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@RuncibleH
If you believe that nsw is altering or falsifying their data without any evidence then you're a conspiracy theorist.
And there's no evidence of fraud. If anything the data looks real and natural to me.. Having analyzed it for a long time now.
Please stop spreading conspiracies.
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We're almost halfway through January, a month after opening the border to more visa holders and yet there's absolutely zero talk about when most of the world can come to Australia again. Why?
Open the border now!
What the hell is Australia doing? Why is it shut still??
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According to this tweet, nearly every person on Earth has... let me check the wording...
"betrayed the fundamental value of their own being"
This strikes me as... not likely to be true. Rather, a ludicrous moralistic judgement by a germaphobic misanthrope.
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@AlanBixter
What are you talking about? Is this a parody of someone?
Ommie is out of the bag and has been. Travel isn't going to change anything for the better. It only causes harm once Covid is there.
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@michaelmina_lab
Next you'll be leaving the Academic world to start a business that sells RATs so you can profit off your advocacy!
Oh wait...
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This is how I've been feeling. I'm extremely left wing... But I feel like many of the politicians and celebrities on the left have abdicated their beliefs out of fear of Covid.
Leaving me feeling more like a conservative even though I still believe all the things I used to...
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This is a mentally deranged person. She needs help.
I rushed to get him an actual PCR (get your proof, you’ll need it), & it was a fight to get him paxlovid, though we got it & a few other things. I’ve taped off my room, made him a 5 day snack, hydration & med prep tray, & I’m just here livid, defeated and hoping for the best. 4/
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@mattyglesias
Sopranos wasn't a good show by todays standards. Watched it for the first time. It felt VERY dated. Characters were like characatures. Mostly annoying. Plots were not great in general.
It may have shaped TV, but like the Godfather it doesn't hold up to modern alternatives.
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@luckytran
"Masks work against all airborne viruses"
Not all masks. Most masks do absolutely nothing vs airborne viruses. Nor are they supposed to.
N95 do a fair bit if fit-tested.
N99 and N100 are exremely effective if properly fitted.
None of which rely on anyone else masking.
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