H.L.Griffin- #ACNAtoo I NOPE because I hoped
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DukeDiv MTS '21, TMC '17. Philo, Paul & Romans. Critic of Sincerity Culture.💍 @literalgriffin #ACNAtoo #ActuallyAutistic She/her @hlgriffin 🧵🟦
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As
@msjpauly
points out in her recent
@MotherJones
article, “Independent” Investigations Into Sexual Abuse Are Big Business. Can Survivors Really Trust Them?," (CW, child sexual abuse, child sex trafficking), these investigations are largely unregulated.
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@daddyluver69
I'm sorry. We are still working on the AI to make the Sentimental Authentic Allyship Module more life-like. The feedback on our Beta testing is that we are in the "uncanny valley," which I guess is kind of fitting for L.A.
Not nearly as successful as our White Tears feature.
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The continued harassment of Beth Moore by Southern Baptist man babies is further evidence of what happens when weak men of vicious character are promoted to positions of power.
This is a reason why people are leaving the church. They don't want to become like this.
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That feeling when you want to connect with someone you love but are dreading finding out what they believe. My heart can't take one more friend heroically taking a stand against the dangers of wokeness, CRT, & vaccines.
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If you were in charismatic or evangelical culture in the 80's, 90's, or 00's, Frank Peretti's novel, "This Present Darkness," may have been lauded as the Best Depiction of how spiritual warfare works.
It's also the imaginative handbook for how to mishandle sexual abuse.
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@pool_hoxse
@wallscrawlpoet
@daddyluver69
I am a listening and learning Performative Ally, Bougie White Lady Model, beta version.
I have been told not to touch your hair.
Please tell me a story of your oppression so I can center on myself and mention my Black Friend.
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@wallscrawlpoet
@daddyluver69
You're so brave for telling us that. I'm listening and learning.
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I'm done with my 200 page thesis, y'all! That' means I'm done with my Master's Degree!
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@pool_hoxse
@wallscrawlpoet
@daddyluver69
I see that you are familiar with our Karen model.
Do you wish to speak to the manager?
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Beware of leaders in an abuse crisis who are good at making you feel listened to- who seem kind & empathetic.
They will often promise reform.
They will tell you that they are learning & listening.
They seem to care.
But their actions never follow through...
I appreciated time with
@Jedidiahhartley
today and hearing his story and perspective on many things over the years at
#ihopkc
and beyond. Thank you, Jed.
My desire is for a better future for those a part of this ministry as we learn from the mistakes, misgivings, and failures
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@sinner_sainted
.
@sinner_sainted
, "Consider the willies" was RIGHT THERE.
@mike_yung
@masonmennenga
Consider the willies how they grow. They soften not, they wilt not.
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.
@LouEngle
- Now that you have made your long-overdue statement & Tammy has come forward w/ her testimony of
@MikeBickle
's abuse when she was 14, do you wish to retract this shameful prophecy?
How many women stay silent because men like you show them how they will be treated?
Lou Engle (a leader of Her Voice Movement) believes the
#metoo
movement is an evil rebellious movement akin to the sin of witchcraft. *Engle is good friends with
#MikeBickle
,
#ihopkc
founder, who is accused of decades of sex abuse and cover-up.
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After the insurrection, were any of you all like, FINALLY my white evangelical elders & friends are gonna get how serious Trumpism is & how dangerous conspiracy theories are & are going to change course? Finally, they'll start addressing this in their communities?
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Yesterday, after Mike Bickle of
@IHOPKC
released his tortured fauxpology/concession, the next phase of a smear-campaign began to unfold on a Twitter account with the handle of
@lucabrasi_
& the name of Mike Brown began to release old emails from Jane Doe to Mike Bickle.
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New
@KCStar
article by
@judylthomas
in which a woman discloses that
@mikebickle
of
@ihopkc
groomed & sexually abused her when she was a 14 yr old girl in the 1980's.
This is a pattern. This is predation.
#SheWas14
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The story of a brave woman woman who alleges Clergy Sexual Abuse by
@MikeBickle8
of
@IHOPKC
has shared her story in this article.
She should never have had to do this.
@IHOPKC
should have chosen an independent investigation when they learned of this.
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This is the adult son of
@AllenSHood
, who was a senior
@IHOPKC
leader for over 20 years & who released a statement in support of survivors who alleged sexual abuse by Mike Bickle.
Well done, Samuel.
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@bethallisonbarr
Dismissing women by calling them "emotional" after mistreating them while striking a pose as a Biblical, Rational Man is one of the most beloved toys in the SBC Mediocre Man Starter Kit. They never get tired of it, no matter how tired they make everyone else.
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Mike Bickle & the ELT cannot control the narrative anymore.
So many staff members are leaving.
I continue to be impressed by the integrity of so many people in this community, even as I am disgusted by behavior & rhetoric of Bickle & the
@IHOPKC
ELT.
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@TheSwedishIvy
I feel deeply betrayed when I see Before and After bathroom remodeling pics and the After removes the bathtub in favor of an overly large shower.
Bathtub people are my people.
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One of the things that bothers me is when people who mean well talk about advocacy for church abuse survivors as my calling.
This is not *my* calling.
Abuse in the church is everyone's problem, but much of the risk & load is carried by people who who have no power in the system
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@ThomasPfau3
Here I am converting as much of my library to Zotero as possible, all for want of a German engineer & bibliophile who can build my bookshelves on the roof.
I'm very curious as to what sorts of books were in his collection.
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Something that there is no easy way to talk about in advocacy work is the way that wicked ministry leaders will often use "Good Survivors" (meaning victims that they still have some level of control over) as human shields or pawns to discredit "Bad Survivors."
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PSA for
@IHOPKC
folks & others: When survivors share their personal stories of abuse publicly, they may adopt different levels of anonymity, sometimes using pseudonyms, maiden names, middle names, initials, etc.
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@IHOPKC
folks- As you are processing the slapdash "independent" investigation by Rosalee McNamara of Lathrop Group, a powerful law-firm known for its representation of giant corporations & Roman Catholic institutions embroiled in sexual abuse scandals...
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How the church treats survivors of abuse is often more devestating than the abuse itself.
I am so grateful that this woman was believed by SOME powerful male leaders.
Many survivors loose their community.
Most people who stand with them lose their community.
“I am devastated that men and women who have been my friends for 25 years have completely shunned me since they were first made aware. I had hoped we could all work together to do the right thing. . . . How I have been treated has broken my heart.” — A Survivor and Dear Friend
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@shannsmith18
I am ambivalent about sharing or recommending his book (which I have found very helpful) because of this. Is there alternative resources that you would recommend?
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Many of us who have been betrayed by churches have a hard time with worship music because it is so associated with those experiences of betrayal and rejection & loss.
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@LucaBrasi_
@ihopkc
The brainwashing & trauma-bonding of the abuse is often worse than the sexual violation. Some people never come out of the confusion & fantasy world of the abuser. This is part of why cases of clergy sexual abuse are typically reported decades later.
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When a spiritual leader whom you trust & believe to be a good person turns out to be lying & manipulative, it can shatter your entire world.
You don't just lose trust in that leader.
You lose trust in your capacity to trust wisely...& then you lose your entire community.
@SwineSite
"...that a pastor can and will lie." Believing your pastor is lying causes such extreme mental tension and cognitive dissonance that I think people would rather live in an abusive fantasy world than accept reality.
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Good morning,
@IHOPKC
folks who are rethinking your lives. I continue on my autism history dive into the Moravian mythology promoted by IHOPKC as people reckon with Zinzendorf's own problematic erotic mysticism & ask if this was an influence or source for Mike.
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.
@ihopkc
has not only refused to hire a truly independent & competent third party investigator, but refuses to broaden the scope to all abuse AND mishandling (not just the Bickle allegations) & finances.
Meanwhile,
@EricVolz
continues to present Lathrop as trustworthy.
@john_elving
@ihopkc
@reachjulieroys
@Protestia
These are hugely concerning financial discrepancies. In the spirit of truth, transparency and accountability, IHOP should welcome a legitimate third party investigation into their finances as well.
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@LucaBrasi_
@ihopkc
Here is a brief definition of Trauma Bonding on the
@MisconductAbuse
website.
Nothing was stopping the godly leaders of
@IHOPKC
from either learning about this or developing their own wisdom tradition from careful observation about this phenomenon.
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I don't love how this has all gone down, but not gonna lie, I hope these wicked leaders are quaking in fear instead of plotting ways to intimidate victims of abuse they have already failed repeatedly.
May God bring his judgment on the leaders who have been so cruel to the sheep.
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I grew up as an evangelical in the 90's. Bless our hearts, we actually worried about the dangers of prioritizing politics over Jesus & presenting ourselves in ways that would harm our "witness."
Bless my heart, I thought we took that seriously.
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@EricVolz
, you silly goose. Did you forget that the firm that y'all preciously couldn't even bring yourself to name has all sorts of other problems? That releasing a partial Letter of Engagement is not a magnanimous gesture of some noble Men of God bending over backwards?
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Institutional betrayal, particularly when the attachments are so deep, is world shattering.
So many beautiful, faithful people have already been pushed out. May they find refuge & justice.
IN this whole
#IHOPKC
thing, let's not lose sight of the secondary victims. The effectively innocent members who are being institutionally betrayed and wondering fi their God even exist, and if the whole thing, their faith , their sacrifice, their lives was always just a sham.
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Over the past 5 yrs, I see the itching ears of people that I love leaning towards anyone who flatters their inflated opinion of their capacity to Really Know What is Going On.
They eagerly share any trash that gives the thrill of sentimental indignation.
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.
@ihopkc
announced that it has engaged a "third party" to investigate the allegations against Mike Bickle.
If you are a part of this community, here is why you should not be feeling reassured by this announcement.
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Retweeting this thread for
@IHOPKC
people.
Be wary of people who claim ability to discern that a predators is "healed" & ready to be "restored" but who won't even bother to understand how predators operate.
Beware of making sin small so our small god can save us from it.
“How do we stop sexual predators?” people ask.
First step: understand how they operate.
This 🧵 is a chapter-by-chapter breakdown of the book Predators and why it’s essential reading for non-predators.
(Note: the book contains explicit abuse details; my excerpts below do not.)
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.
@IHOPKC
update: Stuart Greaves resigned this morning.
IHOPKC received "new information" leading them to immediately & permanently separate from
@MikeBickle
.
Still a bunch of nonsense that presents their third party investigation with Lathrop as legit, but real progress.
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@AlethiaWrites
@sheilagregoire
@PatrickKMiller_
This is classic evangelical Sincerity Culture. If we have right beliefs & believe them with sincerity & then act on those beliefs with good intentions, we will only have good impacts on the world.
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Congrats to
@nameshiv
for firing up the sickest burn as Twitter is engulfed in flames.
Turns out Andrew Tate is a literal sex trafficker under arrest as we speak and this raises the question of how Greta Thunberg can call herself an environmentalist or climate activist when she was out burning garbage in public just yesterday
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Mike Bickle apparently espouses some sort of theology in which he can, as a married, 42 year old man & Powerful Prophet, enter into an "inappropriate relationship" with a 19 year old & just Press Delete & Move On & it is all under the blood.
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@LucaBrasi_
@ihopkc
@MisconductAbuse
If, hypothetically, someone were groomed & manipulated & sexually abused by a much older man who was in a position of tremendous spiritual authority (claiming even to be a Prophet & Kind David figure), I imagine the trauma-bonding would be quite intense, wouldn't you?
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@jsparkblog
@literElly
I've been thinking about how ex-fundamentalists & exvangelicals struggle to give feedback in therapy & why we need to coach people on this skill.
@janefortruth
@janjowen
@LoriAnneThomps2
This is part of why we have to train therapists who are working with this client population to train their clients to give feedback & to manage expectations of what therapy will be like. Really, we need to train therapists to be feedback-responsive generally & to solicit feedback
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If you're like me, the past six years have brought a deep sense of betrayal as we've seen people who loved us well & taught us how to follow Jesus buy into some very dark deception.
A thread about how sincere people who love Jesus lose their way & why they struggle to come back.
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"Ackshually, GRACE is biased towards victims!" is the rallying cry of enabling church leaders who don't see anything wrong with what leaders have done-- or at least think there shouldn't be real consequences.
Justice looks like "bias" to men who seek to justify themselves.
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Predicting that the next spokesperson for
@IHOPKC
will be a woman in an attempt to make them look more sympathetic & caring, but that she will be the sort of woman who is only in a position of tokenized influence because she is willing to uphold the images of male leaders.
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New article on the
@mikebickle
/
@IHOPKC
abuse scandal. This includes public discussion of Luke Bickle's affair & the smear-campaigning by
@EricVolz
& other IHOPKC reps. The institutional strategy of IHOPKC is, as always, D.A.R.V.O.
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.
@IHOPKC
folks, be mindful of attempts to minimize the accusations against Mike Bickle as "consensual affairs" or "sexual immorality."
Watch also for victim-blaming.
Educate yourself & your community about the dynamics of clergy sexual abuse.
Clergy sexual abuse is not an affair; pedophilia is not about struggling with difficult circumstances; molesting adolescents is not about a struggling marriage. Such things must be called by their right names— the abuser needs to be held responsible for his/her abusive behavior.
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.
@IHOPKC
folks-
Here are a couple of articles that come with a huge content warning of a common form of Clergy Sexual Abuse that uses the Roman Catholic Bridal Mysticism tradition to groom victims.
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In other systems that have grievously mishandled abuse such as the SBC, PCA, &
@The_ACNA
, we have seen reactionary creation of scapegoats in which the leaders pose as heroes under attack from Evil Woke threats. The evil threat of women's ordination became a fixation.
Lou Engle (a leader of Her Voice Movement) believes the
#metoo
movement is an evil rebellious movement akin to the sin of witchcraft. *Engle is good friends with
#MikeBickle
,
#ihopkc
founder, who is accused of decades of sex abuse and cover-up.
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Even after the sexual relationship ends, the brainwashing & trauma-bonding of the abuser can still be active, controlling the world & shaping the story of the victims.
And the longer the fantasy world continues, the harder the reckoning later.
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@missbeans7
@ArielleDundas
I'll fight you on this one. I have Fozzie Bear cast as Mr. Collins.
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People in any academic field: do you have horror stories of checking peoples' citations & finding that their claims were either poorly supported or all made up?
I feel like most people who went through a MA or doctoral program has some sort of story.
Tell me the worst.
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It's not the people who have always been stunted & who've always used the name of Jesus to endorse their narcissistic agendas that break my heart.
It's the people whom I know love Jesus, but don't love truth enough to resist ridiculous lies.
Jesus is the truth, isn't he?
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.
@bozlawpa
, stating what is blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes to see, ears to hear, & hearts that understand.
Charismatic Great Men like Mike Bickle of
@ihopkc
& their image-mongerers like
@EricVolz
have gotten away with just asserting buzz words with Sincere voices.
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@bennettisaac
@ihopkc
I pray for Jane Doe & the other Jane Does, as well as for every other person who has been crushed by wicked people who abused the name of Jesus in order to abuse the vulnerable sheep under their power.
May God vindicate them. May God judge the wolves & the wicked shepherds.
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Discrediting survivors will always be a thing for institutional leaders who need to distract themselves from their responsibility to care for survivors well & repair the harm done by institutional reps.
It is beyond the pale that after everything Jen has suffered and had to endure, she is *still* having to defend herself from a hack journalist with an axe to grind. Shame on all of you who continue to drag Jen through the mud.
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@kkdumez
@janefortruth
Was the topic:
A) "Are you a Mary or a Martha?"
B) "The Proverbs 31 Wife Today"
C) "Be Anxious for Nothing: Just Trust God & Ignore the Nagging Suspicion that Your Husband & Other Male Leaders are Scarily Immature Relative to the Power They Wield. It's Fine."
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@TheLadyGorman
@KaitlynSchiess
I might start going to baby showers if this replaced the "guess which candy bar has been melted in the diaper to look like
poop" game.
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A disturbing article on Elisabeth Elliot's abusive third marriage & how her marriages shaped her teachings on complimentarianism and enduring suffering in marriage as a kind of sanctification/martyrdom .
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If the world hates us, it must be because Darkness Hates the Light and not because the light within us has become darkness.
Surely the problem is anything Anything ANYTHING other than us.
Surely we are being persecuted in Such A Time As This.
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Retweeting this as a resource for
@ihopkc
people & others to understand how sexual predators operate.
Even if you are convinced Mike Bickle is innocent, you still need to understand predators in your community.
IHOPKC is an easy hunting ground for for those who like to prey.
“How do we stop sexual predators?” people ask.
First step: understand how they operate.
This 🧵 is a chapter-by-chapter breakdown of the book Predators and why it’s essential reading for non-predators.
(Note: the book contains explicit abuse details; my excerpts below do not.)
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The brainwashing of being under the coercive control off a powerful abuser is like being under a spell. It can take decades for the hold the abuser has over the minds of victims to loosen, if it does at all.
It shifted for Jane Doe in March of 2023.
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That feeling when
@Bozlawpa
announces on the
@HeavenBentPod
socials that Boz is representing survivors of abuse of
@IHOPKC
.
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@LauraRbnsn
Also, some women gain relative power within the church system by either serving as the Sweet Ideal or as an enforcer to other women.
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“They tried to amputate the leg to save the body,” Magnuson (
@7MountainsInc
) said of IHOPKC’s separation from Bickle. “But we know it’s more than just a leg; it’s the whole body.”
May God remove every bit of this cancer so that these precious people can find healing.
BREAKING:
@ihopkc
separates from Mike Bickle over "level of inappropriate behavior." Also, Stuart Greaves resigns as exec director of IHOPKC.
This follows 2 days of panic & chaos, according to Stephen Magnuson (
@7MountainsInc
) 1/3
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This is a feature that stands out to me about the
@IHOPKC
abuse crisis.
The people without power begged for justice for years.
No change.
Men with social capital in the system actually showed up & the leaders couldn't shut them down.
So different from
@THE_ACNA
, SBC, & PCA.
For a long time I thought the biggest problem in the sbc was bad guys protecting their friends/selves at the expense of victims.
But. I think it’s actually the “good guys” who aren’t willing to do what it costs to do justice & righteousness- even if it cost their friends/selves.
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@LucaBrasi_
@ihopkc
Here are some things that somehow were never explored in the mighty healing tradition of IHOPKC when they strangely neglected train their healing ministers on how predators groom victims of sexual abuse and insure their silence.
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Has someone explained to the new
@IHOPKC
board members that, in addition to the damage to their reputations, there are actually some situations in which members of a BOD can be held personally liable for wrongdoing that goes down on their watch?
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“Independent” Investigations Into Sexual Abuse Are Big Business. Can Survivors Really Trust Them?"
@TaniaCHumphrey
's experience with an "independent" investigation into
@MercyShips
is a must read for
@IHOPKC
folks to understand concerns about Lathrop.
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Behold, be awed by my Prophetic History,
@IHOPKC
friends. Orgs that set up untrustworthy investigations are not trusted by survivors with evidence. The org then pronounces that the allegations are not sufficiently supported by evidence while presenting survivors as unreasonable.
@intetestedparty
@ihopkc
Remarkably, when one does not have witnesses to interview & is not trusted with their evidence, the investigation will not yield evidence to support the allegations.
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If you are a survivor of abuse in
@IHOPKC
or other communities & are thinking of talking to a journalist, please make sure that you ask them if they have training in trauma-informed journalism.
Make sure you are protecting yourself & others whose story intersects with your own.
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And you will know that he doesn't need to overtly defend himself, because the ministry he built will pay men like Eric Volz and Stuart Greaves to do so; because he has a network of powerful enablers whose own reputation will be damaged if he is exposed...
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Paul & I had our first, very awkward date 17 years ago today & are still in love & still awkward all these years later.
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OH MY GOODNESS, Y'ALL-
FOR
SUCH
A
TIME
AS
THIS.
Do you think young Jesus met Philo while he was in Alexandria?
Surely someone has fanfic'd this by now?
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I am 42 today, y'all. For the next year, I shall know the answer to Life, the Universe, Everything. I just won't know the question.
Turning 42 is like getting a second Jesus Year without all the pressure.
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Just because a ministry calls an investigative firm that they have hired "independent" doesn't mean that it is.
So many survivors are crushed by trusting firms with their most vulnerable experiences of abuse thinking they will finally be heard, only to be betrayed again.
@bozlawpa
@reachjulieroys
See for example the IAG thing
@willowcreekcc
@glnsummit
, where victim-survivors poured their hearts out to totally unqualified "investigators" only to have all their testimony essentially cruelly buried. It was horrific and heartbreaking =*(.
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I, for one, welcome our new Care Bear overlords.
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Here are a few podcast interviews in which I talk about some of my favorite interests: features of evangelical epistemology (how do we know things?) like Sanctified Common Sense & Sincerity Culture. Also:
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@DrMichaelLBrown
@NancyAFrench
@RuthMalhotra
@ihopkc
How ridiculous. No investigation will be thorough unless it creates a safe way for survivors to disclose abuse. There are usually many, many more victims than the initial ones who come forward. Survivors know what happens to them if they speak out.
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About 16 year's ago, my mentor (the pastor's wife) told me that it makes her mad when people tell singles that "marriage is hard" because it leads people to tolerate unhealthy relationships & commit to marriages that will be unnecessarily difficult.
@bethallisonbarr
@csquared78
@toddbenkert
@R_Denhollander
@bartbarber
So many have taught that “marriage is hard” as a way to get people to stay in abusive marriages, and it has the effect of making people not notice red flags in dating relationships. We need to teach that LIFE is hard, but not necessarily marriage.
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The all consuming threat of "wokeness" & "CRT" assailing the Fortress of Faithfulness seems to distract from any concerns about their "witness" to a world that sees them as demanding deference for displays of selfishness, obstinacy, pettiness, & mediocrity.
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The SBC isn't the only denomination that is facing the consequences of promoting unfit people to positions of authority. This has lasting effects on the health of institutions for generations.
Immature people in power are willing to promote other immature people to power.
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@K__Mayfield
@socofthesacred
Who shall be invited to the great Pizza Party at the end of the age? Lo, what shall the Great Papa say to them?
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This kind of patronizing sentimentality toward someone who has endured endless betrayal by SBC leaders is peak Sincerity Culture. As long as we Just Really Just Really Just Really Trust God & Hope for the Best, problems that we caused will change without much effort on our part.
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One of the things that I wish we would teach pastors is that once they gain positions of authority and power, a large portion of the community will stop telling them things.
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How much do y'all want to bet that
@IHOPKC
will no cut
@EricVolz
loose, claim to be "listening," & blame their terrible decisions to date on Volz's smarmy advice?
*Sincere voice* "We wanted to respond in a godly way but Volz led us astray."
The fact that Mike Bickle would rather listen to “crisis manager” Eric Volz instead of Sam Storms and Francis Chan really tells you everything you need to know…
#ihopkc
#mikebickle
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Abusers can be "tender" toward their victims. They can, hypothetically, frame soul-destroying relationships as poignant love affairs between a passionate King David & one of his many wives whose unions are blessed by God, though others wouldn't understand so it has to be a secret
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There are times when I see so much openness & goodness from the
@IHOPKC
folks seeking truth & then other times that I see so much arrogance & misogyny that I feel physically ill.
God help men formed by Mike Bickle in how they think & talk about women.
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I just stepped, while barefoot, on a slug in the dark while I was taking some trash out to the recycle bin.
It was only for a second, but my undignified squeal sounded throughout the neighborhood & the slug slime seeped into my foot.
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@PAndalorah
@pool_hoxse
@wallscrawlpoet
@daddyluver69
Thank you for your feedback on our White Bot AI program, which has been much more successful than our novelty toaster line. We hope to combine AI and toaster technology in the future to remove the guess work in toasting.
I am no longer sharing a home with a man that I love and a toaster that I hate.
I kept the man- RELAX. No need to be so dramatic.
We said goodbye to one of the worst decisions of my adult life, a travesty of a green novelty toaster.
We said hello to a Cuisinart 2 Slice.
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One of the wildest things to me about how I've seen leaders in
@The_ACNA
, PCA, & SBC mishandle abuse is that it never occurs to these guys that they have anything substantial to learn that they can't get from the same minds that helped create abuse response crises.
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An important quote from a reader submitted to the Tony Kansas City blog :
"For years, the well-heeled KC-based
@LathropGPM
law firm relentlessly battled victims of child molesting Catholic clerics on behalf of the KC MO diocese...
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This is one of the crueler moves in an abuse crisis. Some of the empathetic & kind leaders are even sincere & don't fully understand that their traits are being weaponized for image-management & deception.
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Big night discovering that Columbo was so big in Japan that there's a series of books and TV movies called "Columbo of Shinano" about a detective that dresses and acts like Columbo, watching it without subtitles is basically a hallucination, still not sure this is real
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The cruelty of this behavior is the point, beloved.
The cruelty is aimed to not only destroy Jane Doe, but to silence and intimidate the other victims, so tearful & poignantly sincere men like pastor
@bennettisaac
can assure themselves that Jane Doe is Just One Data Point.
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