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Calling our shot now: Utah beats Stanford in the 2033 Pac-14 title game.
Here's how cfb implodes and the conference reforms
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Source: USC and UCLA are planning to leave for the Big Ten as early as 2024. Move *has not been finalized* at the highest levels of power.
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ESPN's Quint Kessenich just noted that Colorado has had no cupcakes on the sked and "heavyweights every week"
TCU: 3-3
Neb: 3-3
CSU: 2-3
ASU: 1-5
Stanford: 1-4
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Let's be clear:
WSU didn't fire Rolovich. Rolovich fired Rolovich. He alone is completely responsible for losing his position as the head football coach at Washington State University. Nobody else. And who suffers? The players.
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In last 55 weeks ...
UW 37, Oregon 34
UW 36, Oregon 33
UW 34, Oregon 31
... What a series
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"Like, shut up! Washington State, about sick of you!"
An absolutely trash comment from McAfee.
Earlier this week, Wazzu head coach Jake Dickert and former QB Ryan Leaf criticized College GameDay for turning Oregon State-Washington State into a joke.
Pat McAfee appeared to respond this morning. And then some.
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The arc of the college football universe bends toward humility.
He's a terrific player. Hopefully, he'll learn, mature and flourish at the next level.
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Reminder that Big Ten expansion in '22 was entirely driven by Fox, just as SEC expansion in '21 was entirely driven by ESPN. They are the grandmasters calling the shots behind the scenes.
(This message will repeat tomorrow morning)
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Utah has beaten USC 34-32 in the Coliseum with a QB who was a walk-on, a TB who is a safety and a HC who is a wizard
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For the record:
WSU has larger TV viewership in CFP era than any of the 4 teams going to the Big 12.
Jake Dickert was fired up about the lack of respect shown to WSU on ESPN this morning saying Lee Corso called today’s game the “No one watches Bowl” This is 1:32 well worth your time to hear Coach fight for his team
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Source: USC, UCLA could top 100m annually in media rights in the Big Ten
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USC fans are something else. Team is nationally relevant for the first time in five years and they come out of the shadows talking trash like their school has won 11 Nattys or some such
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On the bright side for the Pac-12, only one football game and one basketball game left against BYU.
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... As long as it's on our terms, of course
(And oh-by-the-way that refusal to compromise is at the core of our ethos and why no Power Five wants us. But we'll continue to play the victim card and just hope nobody notices.)
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It will be Utah vs USC for the
#Pac12
title
Washington knocked Oregon out of the CFP race two weeks ago and has knocked Oregon out of the conference race tonight
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Attendance at Allegiant Stadium tonight: 56,511
Capacity is 61,195
Excellent scene for the conference
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Nobody ... and I mean NOBODY ... eats its own like the Pac-12
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Also ...
DeBoer = best under-the-radar hire in the Pac-12 since I cannot remember when
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Source: “I’d be stunned if Washington and Oregon go to the Big Ten. The Big Ten will sit back for two years, then try to get Notre Dame”
Growing reality is the Ducks and Huskies have to 1) make it work in the
#Pac12
or 2) join the Big 12.
My guess: 1) is their preference
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Pac-12 finishes 0-5 in bowl games (plus UCLA cancellation) and has not won a bowl game since the 2019 season
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At this moment, Pac-12 power ratings are something like this ...
1 Oregon
2 BYU
3 SDSU
4 (tie) UCLA/FSU
5 Montana
6 NAU
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Pac-12's media strategy a decade ago coming home to roost
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Reminder that Big Ten expansion in '22 was entirely driven by Fox, just as SEC expansion in '21 was entirely driven by ESPN. They are the grandmasters calling the shots behind the scenes.
(This message will repeat tomorrow morning)
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BYU has beaten USC to complete the super-sweep:
5-0 vs Pac-12 in football
2-0 vs Pac-12 in basketball
7-0 overall and bragging rights for eternity
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Caleb Williams, Michael Penix, Cam Ward and Bo Nix to date:
41 TDs
1 INT
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Two things, equally true:
Oregon is out of the CFP race, which is bad for the Pac-12
Washington is back, which is good for the Pac-12
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BREAKING: WSU + OSU take the
#Pac12
to court over board makeup, voting rights and control of assets. We have all the details:
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Except Utah/Rising
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It's official: Black Saturday for the Pac-12, which now has:
16 noncon losses
5 losses to the MW
4 losses since 7 pm
3 losses to BYU
2 losses to FCS
1 undefeated team
0 Jake Haeners
Does Oregon over OSU offset all that?
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That's it:
#GoUtes
a team bonded by tragedy and led by the Pac-12's best coach, has won the 2021 conference title and will make its first-ever appearance in the Rose Bowl.
Congratulations to a team that went through hell, twice, and is headed to the Grandaddy
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Mike Leach's tectonic impact on cfb is indisputable.
The question is whether any coach in the past quarter century has had a greater impact on the game *at all levels* than Leach.
If so, there are only a few - and none of them gave out wedding advice
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#USC
has hired three HCs since Pete Carroll left for Seattle. The man the Trojans did not hire has won the national championship.
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Would be something if the Pac-12 finished 2-0 against Ohio State and 0-5 against BYU.
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Frustrated, depressed Oregon State fans should not blame Smith, Barnes or Murthy.
Former president Ed Ray a chief enabler of the failed Pac-12 policies that created this mess. More than anyone else connected to OSU over the past 6-8 years, he bears responsibility.
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The Big Ten should ban Michigan from the postseason. Elaborate, premeditated, resource-heavy, multi-year effort to gain a competitive advantage. Pretty simple, really.
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If I'm the Big Ten and I want to get to 18, the short list is Washington, Oregon, UNC, Duke ... and Missouri
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Washington's high court denies the request for review. Stay is lifted. Big day for WSU and OSU.
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College football is a mess right now, with ESPN and Fox as the puppet masters.
But let's not forget the reason the industry is vulnerable: NCAA economics require two profitable entities in each athletic department to support 14+ money-losing subsidiaries. Unsustainable model
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Mike Leach has 3 straight wins over Stanford and 4 straight over Oregon. Remarkable.
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Fans of a 23-point favorite storming the field. Haven't seen that in a while.
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Bigger stunner than Texas and OU joining the SEC and not even close
OFFICIAL: USC will join the Big Ten Conference in 2024.
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How is the ball possibly marked at the five - and then not overturned in the booth?
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current
#Pac12
South standings
1. lost to BYU
2. lost to team that lost to BYU
2. lost to BYU
4. will lose to BYU
5. same as 2
6. lost to BYU
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One of my absolute favorite parts of Realignment Twitter is when fans of the Big 12, which just added four G5s to survive, roast the P12 for being a G5
Simply spectacular
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Two things, equally true:
- Incredible performance by Oregon State
- Oregon's coaching staff blew it, completely
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With the Rose Bowl hosting the semis after the 2023 season and the expanded playoff starting with the 2024 season, the Granddaddy on Jan. 2, 2023 will be the last traditional P12-B10 matchup
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Reminder that Big Ten expansion in '22 was entirely driven by Fox, just as SEC expansion in '21 was entirely driven by ESPN. They are the grandmasters calling the shots behind the scenes.
(This message will repeat tomorrow morning)
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Kirk Herbstreit on GameDay, on the
#Pac12
: "They’re a Power Five. They’ve become less respected than the American."
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Larry Scott getting hammered with boos from the crowd (loudest all game)
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Gavin Newsom said he spoke to Larry Scott 2 hours ago, claims nothing in state rules preventing teams from playing.
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Near the top of my curiosity list:
How in the world are they going to set the Olympic sports schedules for USC and UCLA teams in a manner that doesn't leave those athletes exhausted in every manner by the end of their seasons?
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I know the answer: Absolutely not.
No one knows the answer, but the question is being asked by everyone in college sports right now: Did Lincoln Riley know a Big Ten plan was in the works at
#USC
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Maybe Ohio State should have beaten the team that Utah beat, twice.
I love the Rose Bowl but I hate that tradition robs Ohio State of a better Bowl Game opponent. Ohio State vs … Oregon! Oklahoma! Notre Dame! Clemson! … but we’re stuck with Utah. Utah’s good. Could be a good game. But the opponent & matchup is still underwhelming 🤷🏻♂️
#Buckeyes
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As an
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voter working on my final ballot, can state definitively that there are no good options for No. 2 … except Missouri
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Updated Hotline picks for the Pac-12 South race:
1. Texas
2. Fresno State
3. BYU
4. Troy
5. Houston
6. SDSU
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Told he was out of a job by the Pac-12 Networks (17M subs) long before the conference decided to postpone the season,
@Mike_Yam
will now anchor for the NFL Network (60M subs)
Winner: NFL Network
I want to thank
@nflnetwork
for the amazing opportunity to join its team. I cannot wait to get rolling! The supportive messages from everyone who watched our
@Pac12Network
shows the last 9 years meant the world to me. THANK YOU! 🙏
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Source: The
#Pac12
has formally begun the process of separating from commissioner George Kliavkoff.
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Tim Brando just said you could make a case that Oregon was the banner-carrier for the Pac-12 even before Chip Kelly took over (in 2009).
No, you cannot. Not in any way, shape or form.
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I still cannot believe what unfolded in Corvallis
It took the Beavers doing everything right and the Ducks doing everything wrong
Also, lifetime deal for Jonathan Smith?
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Targeting DQ on Utah LB Chase Hansen, in one word: Abomination.
(but remember folks, Gustin on Minshew wasn't targeting ... good lord)
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Breaking: Ahead of
#Pac12
vote, CA health officials have committed to expanding cohorts to a workable number for football practice, per source.
This is a big, big deal. Last significant obstacle removed.
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USC's schedule in 2020:
Sept. 5: Alabama
Sept. 6: Helton Watch begins
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If Oregon State fans believe their team is getting hosed by the officials, they would be correct
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Utah has won the
#Pac12
South for the third consecutive non-COVID season.
Congrats to the Utes, who have endured two tragedies since the end of the 2020 season and are clearly a team inspired.
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The toughest part for
#Pac12
campuses: They waited all those years for Larry Scott's bad media deal to play out in hopes of cashing in - and now they won't reap any rewards
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Utah has won the Pac-12 South. First division title for the Utes, and they did it the hard way, having to play UW, Stanford and Oregon
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Regarding more expansion: Big Ten schools (w/ LAs) will generate 100m+ in annual media revenue. Any additions would have to be seen as revenue additive by Fox and the 16 members.
Very high bar
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The Hotline reported yesterday that Arizona had been cleared to travel the Seattle. We failed to report that the Wildcats did not make the trip.
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I have figured out the ID of the next
#Pac12
commissioner but am so shocked that quadruple confirmation is required to make sure I'm not being set up.
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Colorado and Stanford is one for the books: We'll never again see a greater disparity in roster-building styles. CU has > 50 transfers while Stanford has < 5
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Crazy to think that a week ago, Utah needed UCLA, Oregon State and Washington to win just to get this opportunity.
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Breaking:
#Pac12
set to reverse course and allow non-conference games. ADs have agreed, one step remains:
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Congrats to Washington for scoring 3 more points on USC's defense than Cal did
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-- Pac-12 North:
UW/WSU
Ore/OSU
Cal/Stanford
-- Pac-12 South:
AZ/ASU
Colo/Utah
SDSU/FSU
Discuss amongst yourselves ...
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Source: There is a 99% percent that nobody in college sports has ever heard of the next
#Pac12
commissioner.
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I vote for the
#Pac12
scrapping the last Saturday of the season and going with a two-week, four-team playoff with Oregon, Utah and the L.A. schools
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Three thoughts:
- UW might be the No. 1 team in the country or the No. 2 team in its own state.
- Lanning's speech wasn't unusual for a HC addressing his team before kickoff, except we got to see it.
- Would any other
#Pac12
team be 4-0 vs. Utah's sked without its QB1? Nope.
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#Pac12
in major revenue sports in 2017-18:
- no CFP team
- bowl record (1-8) was worst ever
- two at-large bids, and both are First Four
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