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40+ builders showed up to the
@keyflowapp
workshop at
@UWaterloo
yesterday.
UW students got the dog in them. I can't want to see how they use the platform to automate their lives.
Also announced Keyflow Ambassador Program. Apply here ->
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I didn’t know llama 3 was chill like that.
Mad respect Zuck 🫡
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@thakurign
Gujarati mfs are so good at small talk tho. Make sense cuz they are business people at heart
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@ataiiam
@yoheinakajima
That’s just bad code that is going to increase your tech debt.
Nothing can be that complicated. Everything can be done much simpler.
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Toronto S-tier summers (just see the pictures)
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Great third places for optimists to meet- 535, new office hrs, 🇨🇦/acc townhall, walks and talks, food tours, cafe hangs, park hangs & Toronto island picnics.
The arena is electric. All you gotta do is join.
You think I am delusional for being over optimistic about Toronto?
You haven’t seen this city like I have, and my god it’s stunning. I will show it to you through my lens soon.
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By next year, I bet kids all over Canada and US will want to fly to Toronto for the summer to meet cool people and build cool shit with them.
I want this city to win so bad. You have no idea.
would love to meet builders in Toronto or just any cool ppl. Will be here for 4 months. dm me 🙃
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No, funding isn’t the root problem, retaining good founders is.
I am sorry Ghulam, you are gonna catch a stray from me, but it’s nothing against you I promise.
I just want to show some tough love to Canadian founders. This might hurt some feelings, but needs to be said. 1/9
All these Toronto office hours and walks and talks and townhalls are pointless if there is no funding available for founders... who's planning on solving that? The so-called shopify angels are only good for 5-10k cheques and that too after painfully long consideration
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I don’t understand the argument “stop AI because it will take away jobs”.
Do you not want a future where you aren’t a cog in someone’s machine ?
There are some other arguments against AI but this ain’t it.
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btw, this is the thing that makes creators
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Waterloo to Toronto high speed rail when?
imagine if uoft and uwaterloo were within walking distance of each other
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If you start building in Toronto now. You can ride the city's growth wave.
2024 and 2025 will be a unique opportunity for builders and founders to embed themselves at the root layers of the city's growing tech communities.
toronto is the best city in the world to cook
intense iteration in humility, continuously pushing the taste and quality bar to the limit
if you’re reading this it’s too late. we already won
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I asked a very close friend of mine who is a cracked engineer, but not active in Toronto tech twitter sphere:
"What did you think about this event (townhall)?"
His response: "It was good, but it doesn't feel like anything will really change".
Here are some of my thoughts
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Shopify CEO
@tobi
Lütke says Canada must overcome “go-for-bronze” culture at BetaKit Town Hall
#BKtownhall
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I am choosing Canada (especially Toronto and UW) because I see a way to build something beautiful here.
I can do a better write up on what that is and also happy to meet irl and chat if you want to talk more.
@TimothyMaksim
I talk about the real problems here. I am aware of shortcomings of Canada. I have a plan to make it better and I will do my best in the way I can. I know others who are also doing their best to help the city.
I can easily escape to states on O1 but I am choosing this place.
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You think I am delusional for being over optimistic about Toronto?
You haven’t seen this city like I have, and my god it’s stunning. I will show it to you through my lens soon.
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Twitter is helping people meet IRL. Rare for social media apps to have positive impact in lives of people.
People were shitting on Elon when he bought twitter. Calling it a bad idea.
You have to be crazy to think the guy who ships rockets can’t fix a social media app.
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It was lovely meeting a lot of new twitter friends IRL.
Thank you
@BetaKit
,
@skanwar
&
@aratisharma
for bringing together 500 optimists in one room.
Also huge thanks to
@tobi
for inspiring the new generation of 🇨🇦 builders.
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Fuck it. I am hosting a walk n’ talk for founders in Canada during
@TorontoTechWk24
.
If that thread spoke to you, let’s meet Excited to meet you all IRL.
Toronto Founders Walk n’ Talk by
@trillhause_
from
@keyflowapp
May 17th from 4 - 7 pm
Sign up on the website
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I met a Google employee in LA who left Google 3 times and got acquired by them every single time.
“Build something people want” nah.
Mf built something Google wanted 3 times.
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Was tired of switching back and forth between 4 platforms to use LLMs - ChatGPT, Claude, Coral (Cohere ) and Gemini.
Just made an internal tool where you can call any LLM in the same thread with shared context.
Works like a charm!
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Had a fun walk with a bunch of AI folks in Toronto. Looking forward to more walks.
I am organizing an AI hike n’ talk this Saturday (Feb 17) for the AISC community ()
It’s weekly meetup for AI enthusiasts/founders to learn from each other
DM or reply if you are interested
We start at a cafe, do a 1.5-2hrs hike and end with lunch
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Also want to highlight that one Canadian institution that upgraded its status and is getting recognition and respect from elites because of sheer hard work of its students.
The two elite institutions who exit this decade with their reputations the most intact: MIT and Stanford.
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So I disagree that office hours, walk n’ talks, and town halls are pointless.
On contrary, they provide the most important thing that good founders need to build good businesses-> energetic environments.
Capital will follow when good founders build good businesses in Canada 7/9
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Man
@jossmurphyy
was right. I would have broke if this happened to me when I was 20.
I really want to do something to help kids who are stuck in job cycle hellhole.
I will be spending my free time on that this summer. If you want to help with this DM me.
Hi my girlfriend just received a notification that her Tesla internship as a supply chain manager intern (for low voltage controllers) was revoked. She is doing MET at UC Berkeley ( EECS + Business ) and is very hard working.
I know this is super late and summer is already
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The entire city is your third place for the summer.
Bring your MacBook everywhere and start cooking. Pull pomodoros at high park if you have to. Do whatever it takes.
Also tweet your location. Let the gang know the spots you fuck with so they can pull up and cowork.
Toronto S-tier summers (just see the pictures)
+
Great third places for optimists to meet- 535, new office hrs, 🇨🇦/acc townhall, walks and talks, food tours, cafe hangs, park hangs & Toronto island picnics.
The arena is electric. All you gotta do is join.
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Gen Z founder marketing is unreal.
- Spending 1.8M on domain
- Dropping subpar dis tracks
- Putting your product on crackheads on streets and filming em
- Exposing competitor for stealing work
Dangerous game to play, but if the product if good, you will be crowned a genius.
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You might be wondering who is this mf making all this noise on twitter about building in Canada? Why is he choosing to stay here and what's his angle?
Let me shed some light on it.
I am just an ambitious kid who wants to win. Here is my plan.
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@Hyd872Citizen
@thakurign
I don’t like boundaries because it gets pushed around a lot now a days, mostly by therapy. It results in isolation for most people. Break free from boundaries, connect with humans. Be respectful and kind - those are the only “boundaries” to adhere to.
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Build where you want. Stop chasing places that throw cash around in hopes that some stick in our shoes. That's for people who can't execute.
Only bad founders get stuck in execution deadlock when funding stops. Good ones find a way out. 9/9
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You stroll down west Toronto & come across a random book giveaway.
This place is cool.
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Capital doesn’t care where the business operates.
It only cares if it the business operates smoothly & produce good margins.
I promise you, VCs are not discriminating against you because you live in Canada.
They just don’t see you or your business making good margins. 3/9
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Unfortunately Canada isn’t a place for founders or businesses thrive today and that’s why good ones leave.
Most good founders I know didn’t move to SF because funding was easier.
They moved because of SF’s energy. SF makes it easy to operate a business. 6/9
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Shoutout to
@newdemos_
@socraticainfo
&
@cohere
build days for being the snowballs that will turn into an avalanche soon.
Finally, more hackathons, demos, and resources for builders. We need to at-least one hackathon a day.
Just search results for "SF hackathon". We are a speck of dust in comparison.
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Why does everyone in SF glaze waymo so much?
I get that it's very cool but there is more to life than being the first group of people who get to use a cool product.
You are still consumers. There's nothing cool about being an obsessive consumer.
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Closing the loop: Devin failed in accomplishing the task.
The UX is in right direction but it just isn't there yet. I still prefer chatting with LLMs instead of using Devin for coding.
It has great potential tho. Excited to test it more.
Just got access to
@cognition_labs
Devin. I will set up a project this weekend to reduce latency for speech to text using stream based transcription.
Let’s see if it can solve a real problem.
Devin will be working on standalone repo and if it works, I will hire it for more R&D
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For the next two weeks I am lazer focused on Keyflow, so I won’t be around at the west or east end meetups.
Miss you all, will be back end of May.
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Some mfs have no confidence in themselves. Imagine living with a mindset that the city you live in decides your fate.
Nah dawg, it’s other way around. You decide fate of the city you live in.
SF attracts a lot with the former mindset. You actually want to stay away from it.
im sorry dawg, you’re just not on my level with a mac, like at all man, it took me a few months, but I ran the experiments to validate your insights, and they waaaaaay off, ya need to stop talking man, I’d run circles around you with a mac, in and out of disciplines before your
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It has 2 now 😂
Of course that’s your contention. You’re a first time city glazer. You just finished using Toronto as a wrapper, maybe even organizing a walk and talk. You are gonna be convinced of that until next month when you learn that you have to throw a London Fog at someone,
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Such a wholesome moment. I am long Toronto and Canada but I am longer
@internetvin
and
@tommytrxnh
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“But there are no customers in Canada, all of them are in US”
Well, just like capital. Customers don’t really care about your base of operation especially if you are a software product. They care if it works, reduces friction and provides value.
Exhibit A - Shopify. 8/9
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Can testify this in court.
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A great space to work in SF is always around the corner.
There is so much we can do to offer spaces to work.
Companies in Toronto should invite talent to come out of their office. Maybe carve out an area for regular drop-ins ?
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@eoghan
If they’re building an AI company, I’ll sweeten your deal & give them a free place to work for while they’re here
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100% agree with Braden.
One more thing to add. It’s not just better pay, access to capital and better opportunities that is making the talent leave.
Economics of operating a company is also fundamentally broken. 1/6
Hot takes on what Toronto needs to be a viable tech ecosystem:
- way more tech events after hours. this is part of what makes sf special. New demos, 535, and Vclub are great starts to recurring events but need more
- startups need to raise more and hire less. Focus on paying
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Life hack: Be kind to your siblings and give them your time and energy whenever they need it.
They are the ones who will be alive for most of your life. A close relationship with them means a great QOL.
Also you all will get cofounders 4L!
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Also we should organize a huge spike-ball tourney this summer
I have one kit I can bring.
@internetvin
@tommytrxnh
@fahdananta
👀
there needs to be more healthy, easily accessible, competitive outlets for young people.
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I have no original takes. I just be repeating the goat.
All takes on Twitter are noise. Mine included.
Actions is what matters. I am glad so many people are feeling inspired to take actions.
Resilience also matters. Expect your actions to make no meaningful change for at-least a decade.
Do them regardless cuz they will compound.
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Another one of those “What the fuck am I doing with my life” kinda day today.
Congrats
@SpaceX
on starship 4th launch tho.
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You raise then maybe build.
I build then maybe raise.
We are no the same.
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I built this Raycast app for myself last year and ended up submitting it to Raycast App Store just cuz.
Checked on it after a year and it's close to 3k installs. Crazy
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Techies do not understand how important social fabric is.
If you find a service online - accountant, mechanic, handyman, realtor, lawyer, etc. you will get squeezed because to unknown people you are just a lead, conversion and transaction.
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Huge difference in operating and scaling a venture backed company vs a bootstrapped company.
So much to still learn, but I find unlearning harder.
The experience I gained working at venture backed companies has formed certain habbit patterns that lead to sub-optimal plans.
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Capital chases builders not the other way around. Only grifters chase capital.
You aren’t a grifter. Stop chasing capital.
Focus on your operations. There are so many levers you can pull to make your business good without capital. 4/9
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We are gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning, and you will say "please, please, its too much winning. We can't take it anymore. Mr.
@internetvin
its too much", and I will say "No it isn't. We have to keep winning, we have to win more. We are gonna win more"
By next year, I bet kids all over Canada and US will want to fly to Toronto for the summer to meet cool people and build cool shit with them.
I want this city to win so bad. You have no idea.
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Every year, there are two weekends where kids age 8-17 come to learn anapana meditation.
Served the course for the third time last weekend and can say these are my fav weekends.
Off the grid in nature, no phones, meditation & organising games for kids. Pretty sick gig.
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If this wasn't the absolute best place for me to build a multi-billion dollar business, I would have moved.
My angle is nothing more than being a good samaritan and improve the ecosystem I am building in so I make more cool friends.
It's that simple.
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If you want to use LLMs for code gen but don’t know how to start.
I am happy to share my chat sessions showcasing workflows and prompting techniques I use.
DM me.
Can attest to this. We use LLMs a lot for gen and engineering is a lot of fun now.
Sonnet 3.5 helped us code Keyflow’s new fully concurrent workflows execution infra.
Surprisingly chat is my favourite UX when it comes to code gen.
I don’t like LLMs touching my code files.
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I wonder if it’s possible to become a cash flow positive big tech company and have fun engaging work for IC SWEs.
Most people have to be a cog in the machine because the machine is too valuable.
Following processes isn’t fulfilling to humans long term.
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One way to elevate Toronto's tech communities is to produce beautiful looking media telling the stories of creators - providing exposure to both the indie media makers and builders.
@internetvin
@tommytrxnh
plz make it happen
Toronto has quite a lot of artists and film makers. Would love to meet videographers, film makers and content creators interested in creating high quality content around projects & products.
Toronto is prime for tech x media creators
Example -
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More pics
I was right. That’s a wrap for Walk and Talk
#8
. Thank you for everything :)
P.S. Go outside and touch grass.
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#1
product on product hunt was built in Toronto. LFG.
I had two goals for launching
@boomvisionco
:
1. Create something beautiful that we're truly proud of
2. Get to
#1
@ProductHunt
And ...we did it!
Thanks to your amazing support and feedback! Feeling super proud of the team and taking it all in today.
This is just the
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Every single run is me practicing the demo.
We gone do it all live! YOLO!
Introducing: New Demos 2
Screening tomorrow at 8pm EST at Revue Cinema in Roncesvalles, Toronto.
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It is so inspiring to have multiple experiments running to improve 🇨🇦.
I also love how we don’t care about differentiating these experiments and instead are just focusing on taking action.
Extremely based.
I don’t know what “🇨🇦/acc” thing means but
@535Toronto
is it’s own independent project and experiment
We need to build together, not all pile on onto one thing, keep consistent, and not be cringe 🫡
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We got socratica open source before GPT 5
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This mf is 10 steps ahead in everything he does. It feels like he is playing 4D chess but he is just seizing every opportunity he gets to market his product.
And doing it while keeping his integrity and core values intact - keeping the product free. Very impressive.
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If one of the levers you need to pull to execute is leaving Canada, by all means do that.
If another city if where your customers or talent lives, yes you should open an office there.
Place of operation should be where the founder and business thrives. 5/9
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Rise of India is on horizon but it’s going to look very different from US.
Having dog is not enough. You need to have a wolf in you to make it there if you come from nothing.
Western founders will not be ready when Indian founders come for their market.
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Gonna make a summer coding program for highschool kids.
Will be 90% self-learning.
I will only teach them how to prompt LLMs to self-learn.
Kids can share their GPT sessions on discord to help others learn the topic they learned.
There will be a capstone project.
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My dad post
@newdemos_
:
“Congrats on the demo. I am proud of you.
Take this paper, tear it up and throw it in the air. Celebrate until it falls to the ground.
Then we go back to work”
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@TimothyMaksim
I talk about the real problems here. I am aware of shortcomings of Canada. I have a plan to make it better and I will do my best in the way I can. I know others who are also doing their best to help the city.
I can easily escape to states on O1 but I am choosing this place.
100% agree with Braden.
One more thing to add. It’s not just better pay, access to capital and better opportunities that is making the talent leave.
Economics of operating a company is also fundamentally broken. 1/6
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Capital all over the world is looking to get invested in good businesses.
A good founder can easily find his/her way to it.
If you find it hard to raise funds. Take a deeper look, either it isn’t a good business or you aren’t a good founder. 2/9
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Companies 🤝 Startups
Canadian companies are now actively stepping up to give Canadian startups a chance publicly to sell to them.
This will be huge unlock for both the Canadian 🇨🇦 startups and existing companies.
Let’s build best things and give it to our people first.
and its not getting about getting hand outs. toronto (wo)mans just want to at least be at the starting line for the bake offs. for early stage products, watching customer pain live via collison installation is extremely key to deciding what to prioritize
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Here is how I use Chat platforms today:
- Claude as daily driver (since 3.5) + artifacts UI
- Cohere for Grounded web research & RAG (includes citations)
- Gemini for video processing and long documents
- ChatGPT for custom GPTs
My goal is never have to log in to them again.
Was tired of switching back and forth between 4 platforms to use LLMs - ChatGPT, Claude, Coral (Cohere ) and Gemini.
Just made an internal tool where you can call any LLM in the same thread with shared context.
Works like a charm!
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The whole Scale AI meritocracy thing is a publicity stunt for Twitter engagement.
MEI: Merit, Excellence, and Intelligence is a dunking attempt on DEI.
Scale wants a media narrative that they pioneered a workplace rule like Coinbase’s “no politics at work”.
It’s all PR.
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A western mind cannot comprehend this. To them, living a yutori life means giving up on ambition and finding peace with what they have.
Wrong. You don't have to give up. I have met many people who run huge operations & live a yutori life.
Its not mutually exclusive.
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Finally, more hackathons, demos, and resources for builders. We need to at-least one hackathon a day.
Just search results for "SF hackathon". We are a speck of dust in comparison.
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In summer, I will be hosting volleyball days at woodbine beach. Two courts. I have all the equipment.
More details in 2 weeks.
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My friend is absolutely right.
Posting quotes of Tobi, Satish, and the speakers is great for generating hype around 🇨🇦, but the energy this amazing town hall generated will dissipate quickly.
Nothing will change -> Unless we take actions.
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more pictures!
40+ builders showed up to the
@keyflowapp
workshop at
@UWaterloo
yesterday.
UW students got the dog in them. I can't want to see how they use the platform to automate their lives.
Also announced Keyflow Ambassador Program. Apply here ->
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People who yap for a living cannot comprehend this
learning how to say something in 30 seconds that takes most people 5 minutes is a big unlock
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Idk man, I don’t get the whole Bryan Johnson movement. I am pro health but not anti aging. Doesn’t seem mentally healthy.
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Don’t change your ethics based on your environment.
Change your environment based on ethics.
One of the best things for me in life is sitting with my grandfather and his friends and hear their stories.
Some are UHNWI, live a simple family life, and don’t change their core values when conducting business.
These stories are a master class in ethical practices.
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@bayeslord
@griefcliff
I get the sentiment but taking responsibility is a big part of dharma. The way of the universe isn’t about letting things slide but to ground to reality. IMO it preaches people to take action not be complacent. Westerners usually make this mistake
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Those of us who got inspired by this event.
I beg you all to take some time this weekend to plan how you will be participating in making this ecosystem better.
SF does such an amazing job at fostering an energetic environment.
Here are some examples for inspiration.
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Every member of the
@keyflowapp
team is referred as chef. It’s a sign of respect.
Also because they be always cooking.
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