George Yancey
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Just a Christian black sociologist trying to make his way in the world. I block any criticizing me with an obvious fake name. Cowards do not get to complain.
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Who is the person that represents us Christians who do not want to be represented by angry right-wing or angry left-wing Christian leaders? I need to follow that person.
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How you treat the people you like and want to defend tells me nothing about your Christian faith. How you treat those you do not like and think are a problem tells me so much more about your Christian faith.
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To those who suggest me, I do not have the platform to effectively push back toxic left and right Christian Twitter. I do what I can but we need more voices and more prominent individuals. I suspect most Christians are as tired of the fighting as I am. Where are those voices!!
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This is a horrifying example of what can happen when antiracism programs go amuck. Fortunately, most of them are not this bad. But I fear this is a natural consequence of the philosophy of antiracism.
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I have written about 15 books. I am raising 3 boys. When I tell people I have written books some are in awe of that fact. When i tell people I am raising children nobody is in awe. But writing books is much easier in every way (time, energy, being creative) than raising boys.
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Okay I have read one
@jdgreear
is liberal too many. People who post such are silly and do not deserve any intellectual respect. I have done academic work on progressive Christians. They would not accept Greear. Some Christians need to move on from this nonsense.
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There is a phenomenon I have noticed by certain Christians on the left and the right. I noted certain individuals who were about 5-10 years ago were pretty reasonable. They were on the right or the left but they had some nuances in their approaches.
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If this was only about scripture then there would be churches being disfellowshipped because they have greedy or argumentative or non-gentile leaders. Yet that does not happen. This is more about culture than complete fidelity to scripture.
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Once you understand that support of complementarianism is tied to defense of social identity, then the angry rhetoric makes more sense. I am not saying that there are no theological concerns in this debate But this is more about social identity than some are willing to admit.
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If your Christian activism leads you to hate and dehumanize others then it is no longer Christian activism. It is something else. It is a strategy to win at all costs. And I refuse to accept that as a Christian response.
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@carmenjoyimes
Agreed. There are multiple voices on the left and the right. We need multiple voices for those of us who are tired of their bickering.
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Yessssss! The mask mandate has been taken off on Baylor's campus. I can teach and see my students' faces. And they can understand me better. Happy days are here again!!!!!!!!!
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Unless your name is Karen, I will not be calling you Karen. I find the use of Karen as an insult to be dehumanizing and I will not participate in that type of dehumanization. I am amazed that so many people are willing to do that.
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Today we can celebrate both fathers and Juneteenth. Both are worth celebration. Happy Fathers Day!!!!! Happy Juneteenth!!!!!
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I remember being told that to vote for the Democrat meant an endorsement of all of the policies pushed by the Democrats. So do Christians voting for Trump must now endorse his attitudes on abortion?
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What "wins" social media arguments.
1) snappy and nasty insults
2) putting another person's argument in the worst possible light
3) Getting your friends to gang up on your side
4) Get your opponent mad while you keep your cool
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I would say that Biden had his "deplorable" moment but in some ways this is worse. Clinton did it at a partisan fundraiser. Biden did it with a military backdrop before the entire nation. Just as I would condemn Trump for doing this I also condemn Biden's dehumanization.
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I remember when I was told that I had to vote for Trump since I was pro-life. Guess nobody will tell me that anymore.
Trump: leave it to the states
Also Trump: Arizona shouldn’t ban abortion.
He’s pro-choice.
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I am not saying that having no compassion for a victim of racist violence makes a person a racist. The person may just be a jerk. But in my mind, it does remove consideration of that person to be considered a Christian leader.
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Institutional racism is real folk. And yes there is systematic research backing this up.
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I think that
@NeilShenvi
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I think we Christians need to think more about the Samaritans. The Jews hated the Samaritans so much that they refused to have dealings with them. So when you think of Samaritans you should think of the groups you hate so much that you refuse to deal with them.
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I have been disappointed at the state of Christian entertainment. But I have found "The Chosen." Not only solid Christian entertainment but I cannot remember the last time a TV series was this good. The writing, acting, score Everything!!! I cannot recommend it highly enough.
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When it comes to political activism White evangelicals are in the middle of the pack. The most active per-capita are atheists, Jews, and agnostics. But who do we write reams of books and talk about all the time as being too politically active? White evangelicals.
No group in the United States is more politically active than atheists.
They engaged in 1.55 political acts in 2020, out of a possible 6.
For comparison, white evangelicals reported engagement in .88 acts.
The least engaged are Black Protestants and non-white Catholics.
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Once again I reminded my class last night that my class is not a safe space. You may be exposed to arguments that piss you off. And that is fine. I will say things that piss me off too. If I am not going to spare myself, I am certainly not going to spare my students.
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We can find solutions that can reduce, but not eliminate such tragedies. I fear that we are so polarized that we are more concerned about winning political points than finding answers. This is one of the many problems we cannot solve because we refuse to work together.
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If you are dismayed with Trump's placating of abortion and looking for a solid place for your pro-life vote in November may I suggest:
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It was the messengers who insisted on transparency. The old guard on the EC fought against it every step of the way. In the voice of those messengers there is hope for a future for the SBC. But it is clear that this future only begins when the old guard is removed from power.
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@RichardHanania
I hate to say this but this is brilliant. And there is social psychology that shows if you get people to say something that is obviously not true like having the lights off is good, then they will believe many other things you say. Underestimate this man at your own peril.
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I know this is probably just a waste of time but why don't we wait to see what comes out of the raid before deciding whether it is justified or not? Nobody commenting tonight knows what they are talking about unless they are part of the raid.
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Wow. This is what it means to teach critical thinking. Excellent job teacher!!!
This is utterly brilliant. A student accuses
@jk_rowling
of being transphobic. This teacher skilfully dissects the claim and challenges it by asking questions.
He teaches not what to think, but how to think critically.
Watch until the end.
You see the epiphany in real-time.
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If the only thing you put on social media is how bad these people are or how awful this person is then even if I agree with you I do not want to hang out with you. Life is too short to be around bitterness all the time.
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Happy MLK day everyone. As a Christian, I do not worship any person. I honor King but do not worship him. That means that I look at the ideals he promoted even if he falls short, as we all do, of living out his beliefs perfectly.
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I posted on this a little while ago. White Evangelicals get the bad press for being politicized but they are actually one of the least political groups in the country on a per-capita basis.
For all the talk about how conservative Christians are the most involved in the political process, let me share some data.
Atheists engage in many political activities at 2x the rate of white evangelicals.
🧵 with graphs!
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I like to think of it this way. Those who are my fellow Christians are my brothers and sisters in Christ. Those who are not Christians are my neighbors. Neither has to do anything for my love. They are all image bearers.
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So the
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will occur this week. I have a unique insider/outsider perspective. I was disciplined by the Southern Baptists as a young Christian. I left them. Then recently joined a Sothern Baptist Church. Now that church has left the SBC
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If you are on the left and you do not like what you see, well unless you spoke out against the boycotts from the left you have no moral ground to stand on. You can claim superiority of your cause but not of methodology. You are getting what you have sown.
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As Christians, we must be especially on guard to not fall into the trap of demonizing others. Everyone out there is an image bearer. That includes the MAGA hat wearer. That includes the drag queen. That includes whatever Samaritan is in your life.
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But this assumes that POC will not use their newfound power to abuse majority group members. As you read that article you can see the folly of such an assumption, We racial minorities are not worse than whites. But when we have power we misuse it too.
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Plenty of research shows how to do to create unity. Collaborative mutual conversation is critical . Constructing rules to force one group to kowtow to the other is not. So why in this time of racial polarization are we doing the latter rather than the former?
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You can read the article to get more details and nuance but that is a fair description of what has happened. As an aside I tell my students first day of class that my class is not a safe space. If they do not like hearing ideas they disagree then they need another course.
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By the way if you’re on the left, one of the reasons why the right gained this power is the overreach of the left. Some of the demands were more about power than justice. Yes the right is overreaching but they learned some of those lessons from the left.
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For example, one scripture used is 1 Timothy 3:2 about the elder being the husband of one wife. But 1 Timothy 3:3 goes on to state qualifications of gentleness, not argumentative or greedy for money. Why focus on only the sex of the leader?
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@FreeBlckThought
Seriously cry me a river. I will take on all the criticism he gets if I get the tens of millions of dollars of support he gets to research his ideas. Give me that and I will find something that actually works and bring people together. And I will debate those ideas, unlike Kendi.
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Two ideas have been debated in our society lately, and I think they have more in common than people think. They are the debates over critical race theory and Christian nationalism. I think a crucial idea that links these debates is concept creep.
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Here is what is scary about the “letter to American people” nonsense. Right after October 7 there were those who defended the actions of Hamas. They said something to the effect of “This is what we mean by decolonization.
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One thing you are not going to see me say is calling someone "Karen" unless that is her real name. If I complain about racial stereotyping and dehumanizing then why would I do it myself? Others are free to do what they want but using Karen as a derogatory slur is not for me.
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When people insist on nuance when discussing ideas they like but engage in broad stereotypes when discussing perspectives of those they do not like you are seeing clear evidence of confirmation bias. Work to not be that person.
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What gives? I thought conservatives hate government interference in local school decisions. This feeds the argument that conservatives do not want to talk about the reality of slavery and Jim Crow. Please do better.
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This is why people do not understand me. I do not throw in with the crowd calling America a white supremacist society but I still believe in structural racism. Go figure. Life is nuanced.
Are there still structural racism issues today or is that something of the past?
Watch this clip with
@profyancey
and
@KeithSimon_
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It would not bother me too much if that is the reaction from companies. Given my concern about the polarization in our society, I would value a reduction in our toxic debates and the companies not participating in them may help.
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It is not even close. Maybe we need to be more in awe of people who raise good kids than those who write books.
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This is a big reason why I have adopted collaborative conversations as the way forward. We need to talk to each other in ways where we can build on each other’s ideas rather than shut each other down. We must focus on empathy rather than combat.
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I do not care about left and right. I care about right and wrong.
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To my Christian brothers and sisters - How we react to the elections says something about our faith. If the party we want has a great night and we think we are saved then that say something about where we put our faith.
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Seems I poked the bear with my defense of Greear. It really is not about defending him. I think that identity politics, on the left and the right is ruining the church. I have spoken about the problems on the left but the identity politics on the right is a problem as well.
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Well, those are my comments. I am obviously not attending this year (no gumbo for me) but will watch from afar. I wish the best for the SBC because even if I am not now part of them they are brothers and sisters in Christ. When one of us hurt we all do.
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I noticed that in light of what UMC did yesterday a lot of people were saying that if a denomination becomes egalitarian then is must become affirming. AOG, Pentecostals, Salvation Army, and Free Methodist, to start with, would like a word.
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As a Christian, I subscribe to the notion of human depravity rather than human perfectibility. That notion would predict that if you abuse a group of people over a long period of time and then give them power that this will not produce justice.
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So I am doubling down on my defense of
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after reading some of the reaction to it. If Greear is guilty of anything it is not condemning abortion or homosexuality with the animosity some on the Christian right want him to do.
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What you believe about human rights is not shown by what rights you allow for your friends. It is shown by what rights you allow for your foes.
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So I have been criticized for being “too nice to whites.” Not to my face of course but some people say that behind my back. My response is “whatever.”
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I am discovering that I really do not like terms such as Big Eva and Theobros. They seem to reduce image bearers to basic stereotypes. Becomes easier to have distain with negative caricatures rather than deal with the complexity of individuals with all their nuances.
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I have been accused of being too nice to whites. But I do not care especially after reading something like this. The way forward is together and bring everyone on board. We must do the things that bring community and stop doing the things that polarize us.
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Well, this pride month is turning out to be different from any other pride month I have seen. I normally do not comment on sexuality issues. I find it difficult to have a rational dialog with such an issue. So this thread is not a comment about the rights of sexual minorities.
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Pandora’s box is open. There is no going back now that the right has tasted boycott victory. It was not a good situation when the left could make unreasonable demands on businesses. But now having this problem be bipartisan makes it worse.
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I am concerned with the polarization, contempt for our social and political outgroup, and inability to work together to solve problems in our society. But what disturbs me even more is the role of the Christian church in perpetuating these problems.
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A lot of things people say are Christian nationalism are not really Christian nationalism. But this is.
President Trump will be arrested during Lent—a time of suffering and purification for the followers of Jesus Christ.
As Christ was crucified, and then rose again on the 3rd day, so too will
@realDonaldTrump
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Violence is never the answer. Winning the election is. Vote for Trump!
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What can you do to change an individuals' mind
1) build rapport with him or her
2) try to honestly find out what need is connected to their ideas
3) Admit when they are right
4) identify areas of agreement
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It goes back to the protection of a social history and social identity about the taking back of the denomination from the “liberals.” The conservatives want to replay that which they saw as the saving of the denomination.
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As a conservative Christian, I know that I hate it when progressives tell me that to not vote for them is to vote against my own self-interest. I know that they are arguing that their political agenda is better for me financially than Republicans.
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But I see that as a misunderstanding of the nature of humans. We are fallen creatures and on this side of the grave, we should not be overconfident in our abilities to create a utopia. Rather we should humbly listen to each other and create community.
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People will violate their stated values to hold on to power when they define their opponents as evil instead of merely being wrong.
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I have noted similarities between the pro-Palestinian protest today and the BLM protests of 2020. Seems like a lot of the same players have ginned up these protests. As I think about it further, I have come to realize that this movement of progressive identity politics ...
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So to help people with cross-cultural adoptions is now CRT? Heaven help us if we do not get off this train of making any effort to recognize the racial problems in our society to seem like they are CRT. We Christians make ourselves look foolish doing this.
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A lot has been said about Bud Light’s using Dylan Mulvaney as a spokesperson. It appears that the boycott, unlike a lot of other boycotts, has had a big impact. I want to stay away from the controversy to look at a key issue as a sociologist.
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I do not know why this had to be said but if a husband rapes his wife, then no matter how crappy she treated him, is at fault for the rape. If a killer shoots up a nightclub, no matter how badly the people treated him he is at fault for the shooting.
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Seriously how was this man ever our president? "Joking" like this should rob him of any votes from any moral person.
In this horrifying clip, Donald Trump proposes throwing reporters in jail, where they'll be raped until they give up their sources.
His crowd laughed.
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In 2016 I was telling any Christian who would listen to me that supporting Trump is more likely to lead evangelicals to corrupt their values to help him than to lead him to spiritual enlightenment. I wish I had been wrong.
Pretty significant shift in evangelicals' perceptions of immigration in just two years, with half now seeing it as an economic drain
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Okay I have a title for my forthcoming book with IVP. It is "Beyond Racial Division: A Unifying Alternative to Colorblindness and Antiracism"
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Now that I am doing a little more Twitter I must admit that some Tweets are downright awful and dehumanizing. This is shamefully true across faiths and political ideologies. Too bad we are misusing this great opportunity to communicate to debase and slander our "enemies"
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We can do better than this. In a polarized society where we hold each other in contempt, we have to do better than this if we are going to show our fellow citizens a way out. Peace everyone.
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There are a lot of theological criticisms of Black Theology. But for me, the basic problem is one of trying to confine God to a particular people group or subculture. Anytime you do that you limit God to the strengths and weaknesses of that particular group.
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We get stuck in a cycle of conflict and hostility. So much so that even this liberal black professor in the article realizes that we are at a dead end. If we keep generating students like this then we are doomed to stay polarized and hateful to each other.
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If we are honest then all of us Christians tend to read our own cultural, social and political biases into scripture. The challenge is to consistently work at overcoming those biases. Problem is we see those biases much more clearly in those we disagree with than in ourselves.
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My argument about how to deal with race relations is to find ways to have healthy, productive conversations with people of different races and political persuasions. I talk about relying on rapport rather than confrontation.
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Today some of those same people are deep into myteamism. They denigrate those who disagree with them. Disagreements is not allowed in their world. They more than contribute to the increasing polarization in our society.
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So does having women pastors create the unique distinctiveness necessary for growth. Well no because while the SBC has declined the Assembly of God has increased. You know what AOG has. Women pastors.
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hmmmmm. So pro-life attitudes are really just a cover for white Christian nationalism? I am beginning to believe that Christian nationalism is becoming on the left what CRT has become on the right. The boogeyman to use to tar anything we do not like.
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One of the things common in social media are attempts to shame others into accepting certain ideas. But is shaming a good way to change people’s minds? What I often see is that when we attempt to shame people that we do not change their minds.
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So now those companies are taking it on the chin from the left and the right. Obviously, not a good place for them to be. Thus it becomes logical for other companies to avoid such a fate. The best way to do that is to stay out of potentially controversial issues.
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This is what collaborative conversations can get you. Not every time we use it of course. But enough times that we definitely should use it more.
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And as a Christian I must say that unfortunately we have not set a good example in loving the outgroup. We find our conservative or progressive tribe, adopt their language and act just like everyone else. We forget that they are image bearers too.
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So when Republican governors do it it is racist but when Democratic governors do it we get silence from the accusers of Republicans. Look debate this deportment policy all you want but hold all governors to the same standard.
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So something has been bothering me and I want to get it off my chest. To set this up, I am a political independent who sometimes support a conservative perspective and sometimes support a liberal perspective. I have friends I respect on both sides of the spectrum.
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