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Joined January 2019
realworld post: I will be traveling for much of next year, and am searching for traditional building projects to contribute to, especially in timber framing. if you've got something lined up, or just something in mind (or know someone who does) please let me know.
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the system really was outrageously lenient on convicted charges, but it took a while for much of the public to notice, because they basically assumed that "well, they wouldn't give out such a short sentence, c'mon, that's not a thing." a dangerous normalcy bias.
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it's interesting to look at the Wikipedia or other pages for serial killers in the '70s and '80s, because almost always, there's a section that goes something like: "after serving 18 months in prison for a series of home invasion rapes, he was released without conditions"
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"if the crime was serious, then the convict would have been punished severely." "but the crime was serious, as we can see." "well it must not have been, really, because such a strict system as we have would have been more harsh. so we should make the system less strict."
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one of the worst ratcheting dynamics in "justice reform" as well as many other domains is what you could call the assumption of a strict system. reformers will push for ever more leniency, and then point to that leniency itself as proof that crimes aren't actually severe.
Also let’s be real if he only did a decade for an actual factual murder there was something very mitigating about the facts of what happened…..
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Anyone who proffers a view or opinion expressly to contradict yours, only to then claim they "don't actually care about [the issue] very much and why is it a big deal to you anyway," can & should be immediately understood as a hostile actor seeking to assassinate your status.
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I think it would be funnier if you went back in time thousands of years and discovered that everyone was just extremely Reddit
I think people have generally grown more conscious as time goes on. I think if you went back 4500 years and talked to ancient Egyptians they would mostly seem terrifically dull without much to say. But I can’t test that theory sadly
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@extradeadjcb "heh, looks like you failed the marshmallow test!" "but all I did was follow the instructions and wait, and then you took the marshmallow away at the end." "exactly! sucker!"
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I genuinely think a massive cultural divergence today is whether or not you regularly order (or want to order) food delivered to your house using DoorDash or UberEats If you don’t do this, then you are practically a different species to those who do
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> "Nobody owes you anything. No corporation owes you a thing. The government doesn’t owe you a thing." that is strange, since I'm constantly told that I do indeed owe things to everybody else. apparently it's a one-way commitment. https://t.co/qEXegCoNQ1
The attitude of “we grew up being told” is what you all need to shed. Nobody owes you anything. No corporation owes you a thing. The government doesn’t owe you a thing. Your life is up to you. If you’re not having success, then figure out what successful people do and emulate
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may I suggest:
In case you run out of awkward topics to bring up today. Might I also suggest:
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you can't run a good society for more than one generation on the assumption that elders and juniors are each others' natural opposition, and that subterfuge and sabotage are fair play, and that you deserve whatever sadness you end up with. you just can't.
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what stings the most isn't the disappointment in 'living standards', but that they were told to follow that Material Goods & Professional Status path, and things like family and community would take care of itself. now many people are entering their 30s/40s with little of either.
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yes, working a dead-end job at the Kwik-Trip is better than being a 19th-century coal miner. yes, we all have central heating and new shoes and most of our own teeth. that's great, it really is. what hurts is being lied to, then laughed at when we discover the lie.
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but that's mostly not what happens. instead they're told that they shouldn't have trusted anyone, especially the people who presented themselves as trustworthy, and therefore anything that doesn't work is their own fault, too bad kiddo.
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now, it would be different if our Young (and Recently Young) People were told "we thought this advice was good at the time, we had every reason to believe so, but society and the economy changed in ways we didn't anticipate, and your disappointment is understandable."
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the other insult is that when someone who *has* succeeded brings up these issues, on behalf of their peers, the reply comes: "well you can't complain, look at how well you're doing for yourself. what MORE do you want?!"
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they discover that it was apparently a giant, decades-long shit-test: "heh, you actually *believed* me when I told you to do X, Y, and Z? what a rube! really, the fact that I suckered you *proves* that you deserved to get suckered!"
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twenty years down that road, they're saying "well, none of that led to the destination I was promised, and I feel like it was all for nothing." when they bring this up, they're made fun of for 'laziness' and 'entitlement', even when they completed the advised path perfectly.
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I know numerous people to whom this happened - "get a grad degree in Communications at Whatchacallit U! move to Expensiveopolis! don't get tied down with serious relationships and friendships, focus on status and work and just keep moving!"
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