Lecturer. Research focus: epistemic injustice & representations of poverty in journalism. NUJ activist. Fan of Fred Engels & Danny Dyer. Views mine or my cat's.
Seems austerity celebrity Jack Monroe is being discussed again... my pinned tweet is a response to her setting her 'flying monkeys' on me, resulting in a solid 48 hours of abuse. Many also asking 'well, what do you do/know about poverty, eh?!'
I'm going to make the best of what has been a rotten experience to share some of my academic and campaigning work around representation of poverty. Lemons, lemonade, and all that. First a blog post explaining why I am frustrated at how poverty is reported:
This isn't nice. It's her graduation, celebrating her hard work and her achievement, where she's collecting her degree. It's now forever upstaged to prioritise her relationship to him.
I've been misdiagnosed, condescended to, ignored, sent away, even insulted ... is there a lanyard to let women know who we can trust and confide in in medicine?
wearing my
#rainbowlanyard
with pride. I have experienced homophobia as a medical student, doctor, and patient. It’s not always easy to know who you can trust, or confide in in medicine. Small signs help make those who are most vulnerable feel more safe 🏳️🌈 🏳️⚧️
S'funny how Friday Night Live once claimed to challenge 1970s comedians and yet that Jordan Gray's lyrics were as misogynistic as anything Bernard Manning, Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson would come up with. If not more so! Eeh, this new edgy is pretty reactionary, innit?!
Stephen Fry saying anti-Semitism has become "the one acceptable form of racism" reveals only that he's managed to ignore rampant Islamophobia for decades.
Jack Monroe grew up in a relatively affluent family, spent 18 months on benefits, a decade ago and built a career on the back of that brief experience, leading to books, TV appearances, guest speaker gigs, subscriptions, Netflix and supermarket collaborations, and so on.
The disingenuous "41p a portion" recipes, so enjoyed by privileged Guardian readers, need to stop. Reality is *much more expensive* both in terms of ingredients & cooking costs. This is no different to "30p Lee" but is presented as helpful & even as anti poverty.
#TheBigHelpOut
I find it remarkable that such a simple, fair point could be met with accusations of abuse, discrimination, punching down, anti trans. Women exist too! We matter too! We've spent centuries fighting for single sex spaces to achieve some form of equality, dignity, privacy, safety.
Russell Brand 'shut down by governments'?! He's a pontificating pillock who says nothing of substance and whose worthless wittering is enjoyed only by people as daft as he is.
Mridul Wadhwa was given job to run Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, despite being biologically & legally male, ignoring Equality Act and not questioning *why* he wanted that job, and he went on to lead a Kafkaesque "heresy hunt" against woman staff.
Sums up problems with self-ID.
Jack Monroe isn't working class. If a young woman off council estate spent donations from people on booze and furniture, she'd not be pitied, brave or vulnerable, not given space in Guardian to "laugh out of embarrassment". She'd be absolutely vilified and face real consequences.
Women have worked hard; starved in prison; given of their time and lives that we might sit in the House of Commons and take part in the legislating of this country - Ellen Wilkinson MP, Labour MP for Jarrow 1935-47.
Now the Jarrow MP wants to block women discussing politics.
If a Tory said you can feed a family an average 42 generous meals a week plus snacks from this, for £18.01, you'd be rightly outraged. It's no better coming from Britain's celebrity austerity chef.
Nothing says "women's and equalities" quite like being joined by Tory MP Jamie Wallis who promoted a “sugar daddy” service offering students financial relationships with wealthy “sponsors”. What a joke!
Grimly fascinating to realise anyone can honestly think people in poverty have access to cream, cheese, spinach, or can buy up front to eat later. Staggering lack of understanding of abject poverty, of surviving on benefits, existing day-to-day. Jack Monroe feeds this ignorance.
I find it utterly appalling that Monroe's not robustly challenged but she gets a pass *because*, for middle class observing poverty, this masks brutal reality rather than challenge it.
Rinsed spaghetti hoops do not make a fancy Italian tea and £18 a week won't feed your family!
“So Sting once played a concert for the daughter of the former Uzbek president Islam Karimov, who was accused of boiling his political opponents alive. But apparently he can’t bear to be interviewed by me because of my ‘controversial views’?”
You could argue that Madonna, a 64 year old woman, simulating oral sex on national television is a terribly sad and pathetic spectacle to witness. Or you could argue ANYONE simulating oral sex on national television is unnecessary, and their sex and age is irrelevant.
Monroe has created a brand - and continues to generate content - around her brief experience of poverty despite a decade passing. But also contributes to harmful discourse suggesting surviving poverty is about planning, budgeting, being creative. Her £18 shopping tips are false.
It was a privilege for Mhairi Black to earn a really good income as an MP but instead she was lazy, behaved like it was a burden, doing the bare minimum, while insulting women who paved the way for her to be elected. She's shameless and politics is well rid.
Newspapers stories of working class people "stealing" benefits or, even, charity money, are presented like walls of shame. Jack Monroe admits she spent donations on booze and furniture and is called "brave & admirably open" by Guardian journalist who interviewed her. Remarkable!
Fascinating Guardian article.
"Monroe does not deny that she has abused the goodwill of well-meaning backers. [.] The guru of thriftiness was chucking away tens of thousands of pounds, given to her by the public to support her work."
My evening summarises whats wrong with society;
Me and OH take Alice, aged 5, to a local restaurant
#bullandbush
Hampstead to celebrate New Year as a family. We have a glass of champagne and ask for Alice's apple juice to be served in a champagne glass so that she can feel she
Monroe has criticised Jamie Oliver but they're two cheeks of the same bum: telling poor how to manage poverty better. Any activism is undermined by her strongly contributing to what is essentially Tory rhetoric of centuries - benefits are enough to live on.
Jack Monroe's tips are appalling. Even the danger aside, it's not fair to normalise people in poverty having to do any of this! It's not helpful, progressive, kind, etc, it's putting the responsibility for poverty on those who shouldn't carry that burden. This is Tory thinking.
To suggest the perpetrators of over 2000 rapes in Scotland in 22/23 didn't know they were raping women is, in itself, deeply, deeply misogynistic. You can't fight violence against women and girls with this level of contempt for them! (PS No one is born a woman or a trans woman.)
If a man threatens to rape a woman, he is unlikely to know if the victim is born a woman or a trans woman.
That behaviour should logically be seen as misogynistic. Again, this aligns with existing legislation protecting people from abuse motivated by prejudice. This is not new.
This is lazy, snobby, anti-working class shite. Problem with lot of the left currently is they enjoy despising working class people, and blaming them for society's problems, while pretending to be interested in working class history. It's daft.
"I was a skilled steel worker.
Now I'm delivering parcels for minimum wage, self employed, no rights.
It stinks.
Think we'll lose the house.
Vote Brexit, they said, save Steel.
Vote Boris, they said, save Steel.
I'll still vote tory again - I don't trust Labour"
It's not about binning food or emptying contents of fridge, freezer, cupboards. It's not having anything to top up original tweet claiming £18.01 at Asda could feed a family of 3 for week: 3 meals a day plus snacks. This is an excruciatingly middle class understanding of poverty.
New narrative - wasting money, getting drunk having experienced brief spell on benefits - is not a story of poverty. It's a middle class woman who's had hard a time.
She should tell that story and stop adding to the already stigmatising cliches that those really in poverty face!
Find Monroe's middle class meals altered for poverty distasteful too. Cacio e pepe requires Pecorino Romano cheese and black pepper corns not rinsed spaghetti hoops and, to quote recipe blog, "some dregs of whatever in the fridge".
From bread and roses to rinsed s'getti hoops?!
Monroe's contribution to debate around poverty is welcomed by wealthy because it doesn't challenge poverty, it romanticises it, stereotypes those experiencing it, ultimately suggests answer to it is budget better or beg. Poverty should be eradicated by political means.
Representations of poverty, have, for centuries, been of drunks, bad parents, unable to budget, careless, incapable of work, chaotic. Jack Monroe narrative - alongside excessive 'thrift' - is *exactly* what I have an issue with. It contributes to centuries of harmful discourse.
Shockingly
@BBCNews
described 'warm banks' as "brilliant". There's nothing brilliant about working class people having to find warmth in public buildings because they can't afford extortionate cost of heating their home. 'Cost of living' has become excuse.
Jack Monroe's chaotic life also feeds into class and poverty stereotypes. Shameless but with tips on thrift.
Living in poverty is hard but it's not chaos, bad parenting, getting comatose on whiskey. It's multiple low paid jobs, facing prejudice, being stigmatised, oppressed.
"We had nothing. We had zilch. All this highfalutin life I’ve had is because I went to art school. My parents couldn’t afford to send me. I went because the government of the day paid for me to go and I didn’t have to pay them back." - Peter Capaldi.
The Guardian is really struggling to fit Sinead O'Connor into its limited view of the world. 'Angelic skinhead' is bad enough but the 'mad woman in the attic' stuff is really old-fashioned. Women are either angels or demons and intelligence drives us insane, eh?! Jaysus.
Billy Bragg stating "In the early 80s, I realised if I wanted to hear music that said something about the state of the world, I’d have to make it myself" is the most arrogant, deluded thing I've read. There were *many* writing better political lyrics than that singing Toby jug.
Joe Lycett shredding thousands of pounds - during an economic crisis in which people are *really* struggling - to have a failed dig at a millionaire isn't a great stunt, imo.
Stephen Bradshaw giving evidence at the Post Office public inquiry comes across as defensive, aggressive, and as if everyone else has responsibility but not him. He also seems to struggle to clearly explain a job he's had for decades. I'm pretty shocked by what I'm seeing.
People's lives are complicated but what Jack Monroe describes is not poverty: that's long-term, intergenerational, exhausting, a fundamental part of who you are. She's describing a hard time after job loss and alcoholism.
As the expert 'face of poverty', there are better voices.
I find it *horrifying* that - as a woman who lived entire childhood in poverty, in squats/council, first to go to Uni, life of insecure work, unemployed when got PhD bursary - people who claim to protect poor, support aspiration, defend workers are trying to take my livelihood!
@billybragg
24 hours since Laurence Fox made his misogynist outburst on GBNews, yet no word of condemnation of his unacceptable behaviour from Billy Bragg, just lame digs at women's rights campaigners. You and Fox are two cheeks of the same arse.
I left UCU today. Not about 'pro trans'. Because vanity searching and responding to tweets, singling out individuals for public condemnation, is immature, politically regressive crap. UCU comms now undermine all members during strike action. UCU isn't doing its basic fecking job.
Our union is unequivocally pro trans
And attacks like this show exactly why we need to continue to fight for trans rights
We’ve just helped set up the Trade Unions for Trans Rights Network
Read about it in this blog by our GS
@DrJoGrady
💪
This is about class. "Hannah Ingram-Moore also said her decision to build a pool and spa complex at her home was probably "the wrong one"" on national TV with Piers Morgan. "Benefit cheats" who overclaim Universal Credit are usually humiliated and jailed.
Mridul Wadhwa, transwoman & chief exec of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, support service for rape victims, under pressure to quit after resignation of 2 board members implicated in “heresy hunt” against a colleague who held “gender critical” beliefs.
Good.
BBC in past 24 hours has given publicity to a lad trying to get famous by terrorising people, acted as if being quizzed by its journalist could change Andrew Tate's attitude to women, and allowed austerity celebrity Jack Monroe to yet again represent the experience of poverty.
Anyone know of genuinely effective remedies for menopausal anxiety/low mood/insomnia? I'm really struggling. I don't want HRT (due to endometriosis) or antidepressants (because that'd need a misdiagnosis). Need something though!
Monroe born into relative privilege, built income-generating brand on brief experience of claiming benefits, became austerity celebrity, ten years on wrote of boiling soap and continued financial struggle, now gives talks as working class woman.
Pulp's Common People made flesh.
I'm going to make the best of what has been a rotten experience to share some of my academic and campaigning work around representation of poverty. Lemons, lemonade, and all that. First a blog post explaining why I am frustrated at how poverty is reported:
I've smiled politely at harassment from men a million times. Even laughed if I thought them a real threat. Billy Bragg's attitude to women is really, really fecked up.
@orkneybell
We're discussing Jack Monroe's disingenuous costings, obsession with Asda, and her misrepresentation of poverty. Everyone knows about her from her admission in the Guardian that she spent donations on sideboards.
Calling people witches is as idiotic as it is ugly. Go away.
@simonjedge
@Wickes
The most fascinating part of Fraser Longden's comment to me, with or without the political influence, is 'they'll buy paint wherever is nearest' showing no interest in the product or Wickes brand. That *is* a Ratner moment : Wickes has *nothing* to offer beyond its many rivals.
Romanticising, individualising of poverty is problem. Also men struggle financially too!
But "desperate mum in tears & lost for supper ideas & utensils" does not need advice from income-generating cookbook that goes against basic health and safety. It's not hope, it's dangerous.
@BootstrapCook
Remember why. A desperate mum in tears & lost for supper ideas & the utensils to make it, reads your book & gets a glimmer, a tiny spark of hope. She can be resourceful, she can do it. She can provide. Thanks to you. They may not shout on here as loud but they do exist x
Monroe's blog: boiling soap, using solar lighting, looking for *any* job, £14.60 in red, 94% income on rent/bills, pawnbrokers with fistful of worldly goods, no hair cuts, no shampoo in 2 year, on-going financial penalties
As celebrity face of poverty lack of clarity is harmful!
By Jack Monroe's own admission, she abused goodwill of well-meaning backers, raised funds for libel case no longer pursuing, not fulfilled pre-paid Patreon awards, all while no longer poor but representing those in poverty as speaker, etc. Of course questions need to be answered.
(Past caring if Jack Monroe's fans abuse me as did for 48 hours few week back).
Authentic, knowledgeable women in poverty now could offer useful, genuine insights into experience but overlooked and devalued while Monroe's more acceptable celebrity face of poverty is prioritised.
How does one "look and dress like a woman"? Please provide consistent examples. Note: examples which depend on outdated ideas and stereotypes are not allowed.
@olafdoesstuff
When will people realise that this bigotry just won't be tolerated.
Ellie is a woman. Looks like a woman, dresses like a woman, and identifies as one.
These outdated ideas and stereotypes of gender should get in the bin along with the people making them. Tolerance is the way.
My mum Fran Broady helped found and open one of the first women's refuges in Britain. That was Manchester in 1972. These single-sex spaces are still needed and should be defended.
"The feminist movement should be modelling a “no fear” approach in advocating for women’s rights."
“…feminists who taught me everything…at the age of 19, didn’t operate on platitudes and politeness when it came to women’s rights. They definitely didn’t hide their services from female victims.”
TY to
@TheCriticMag
for opportunity to write this
Jack Monroe: Saint or Scammer? by
@AwfullyMolly
IMHO Monroe can be a problem: celebrityfying poverty, individualising it, reproducing Dickensian representations of the passive poor, and contributing to discourse around better budgeting to ease poverty.
Joking about working class people enjoying particular things is just lazy snobbery. Also, Labour & Tory have cut working class education. You *were* wrong in saying we didn't play musical instruments. Just own it. We also understand Bourdieu.
Sorry I was wrong. Working class kids were in fact playing Shostakovich on estates all over Britain and sadly that culture was lost after cuts by New Labour.
The groceries this week. (£1.30, my household currently consists of one very inactive adult and one energetic growing cat, and we average 21 generous meals between us a week plus snacks. So for arguments sake, feeding two people three meals a day!)
How is calling someone 'wealthy celebrity chef' libellous when they've released cookbooks, appeared on TV as a cook, joined festivals as a significant guest, put recipes online - and generated an income from it all? I call Jack Monroe more accurate 'austerity celebrity cook'.
BBC News asking "have you had an appointment cancelled" because of the nurses' strike. I think "have you waited six hours, in pain, to be seen because your local hospital is short-staffed and under-funded to the point of collapse" might be a better question.
"I'm the perfect woman. My tits will never shrink. I'm guaranteed to squirt. And I do anal by default. I can do anything that any other woman can. But then what do you expect? I used to be a man."
@Docstockk
"Students at liberal arts colleges may no longer be listing their pronouns but the head of MI6 currently has his in his Twitter/X bio" made me do a literal LOL.
If Jack Monroe truly understood poverty, cared about those experiencing it, or wanted to eradicate it with "root and branch overhaul", could start by not adding to pressure on poorest in society to cook unnecessary food to celebrate coronation of a wealthy king.
#TheBigHelpOut
You can guide people on better budgeting, bargain meals, dining out on cheap, etc, but it's ultimately pointless - even cruel! - because it's aimed at people who are penniless and have no energy to be creative with a tin of beans.
Eradicating poverty is *only* real answer to it.
Russell Brand is a film and TV celebrity, a former revolutionary cosplayer, turned alt right conspiracy theorist, part time wellness guru, reportedly worth almost £20m, living in a £4m Oxfordshire cottage, earning a fortune via YouTube. Anti-establishment?! Do me a favour!
Those who argue Jack Monroe's coronation quiche is cheap, leftover ingredients can be used, only £15, just bit of fun etc make my point for me - Monroe is contributing to a cruel ignorance about poverty. People are *really* struggling! Narrative of budget better/manage is cruel!
Young, white, socially excluded men, experiencing economic deprivation, had difficult childhoods, living with drug addiction, joblessness, singled out by the police as 'letting the hate monster in'. Police interpreting anger, frustration, legitimate resentment, as 'hate'.
I'm delivering a paper in September titled "It’s patronising to think people on benefits need to be taught how to budget": redefining expert sources on poverty". I now think 'austerity chef' and 'anti poverty campaigner' Monroe warrants a mention considering her media profile.
@suey2y
You suggested a) rugby players putting corsets on "transformed into women" and b) that transformation into women was dependent on a "sashay" and c) that 'terfs' have a problem with feminine men or see clothes as gendered.
It's definitely you in need of education here.
@RayyaGhul
It's not the point. Women have a right to meet together to watch a film made by academics about a current public and political debate that impacts on their lives. To suggest women don't have this right is really disturbing.
Just to be clear, as example, Job Seekers' Allowance weekly amount is £67.20 age up to 24 and for 25 or overup to £84.80. This covers utilities bills (including cooking), food, transport costs, phone bill, etc.
£15 for quiche ingredients and 45 min bake out of that is *a lot*.
Socialist, trade unionist, working class hero, man of the people, Billy Bragg. Here he is boasting about his wealth while on a global tour, during an economic crisis, singing songs about struggle. Gross.
@brianeofChilliw
I’ve never made a secret of where I live.
That picture doesn’t really do it justice btw. It’s not just a great big house. It’s a great big house on a beach
Found some fashion shoot photos for Elle magazine from 2020 that infuriate me. Working class = laundry bag, rollers and a shopping trolley. Might use them in a lecture.
So Jack Monroe's dangerous tips intended to help those financially struggling have been amended in ebook edition and will be in future reprints. Utterly ridiculous such advice could ever be given 'because poverty'. It fails those Monroe claims to help.
So too much to ask of most people experiencing poverty, then. To do this while job hunting, going to interviews, Job Centre, caring for kids or someone else, etc, is beyond difficult. This might be useful short-term but it's entirely unfair to suggest it for most in poverty.
Gnomeo and Juliet didn't bother them. Setting it in California didn't bother them. Filming it in an empty theatre didn't bother them. The anime version didn't bother them. The tale told by stray cats didn't bother them.
Black actress? Fecking uproar.
Idiots.
I must admit, this lazy misogynist language has definitely changed my mind on whether women should be allowed to centre their own achievements in celebration. Silly me! Get rid of matron and give the patriarch the power. 🙄
Suppose you're a young girl who feels pressured to remove body hair. Or to be sexualised/"wanted". Would the closing lyrics of The Saturday Boy (1984) concern you?
"Thinking back she made us want her
A girl not old enough to shave her legs"
You'd think feminist Billy Bragg, etc.
Suppose your mum wears a hairpiece due to chemotherapy and kids in your class call her a witch because they read in Dahl’s book that witches all wear wigs. You’d think that as a feminist Suzanne Moore would have some sympathy, but no because woke
Poverty isn't about feeling sad at thought of selling your Vivienne Westwood dress, or turning down TV opportunities, or even boiling soap, using solar lights or rinsing sauce off spaghetti hoops. It's working hard, with little respite, very limited options & no celebrity status.
@nicmillerstale
Jack Monroe's depiction of poverty is also horrible, stigmatising, stereotyping and it's defeatist for those in poverty and those seeking to understand it. She equates poverty with leisurely cooking times, incompetence, alcohol/drug abuse, Dickensian prose, and contradictions.
I mustn't spend today reading the middle classes defend Jack Monroe's "vulnerability and bravery" while the working class share their anger and outrage at her admitting she spent donations (some from people in poverty) on furniture.
@PalmersJules
Not everyone does but Monroe claims to be concerned about poverty. I'm weary of the total lack of understanding and expectation you can make a coronation quiche out of nothing in the cupboards or fridge. It masks the reality of poverty for thousands.
As
@MaglocL
pointed out, Monroe assumes those in poverty have time. Recreate egg rings, rinse spaghetti hoops to imitate Italian meals, cut up newspaper to create gift tags. It's leisurely! But it's people in poverty - tired, likely working, fed up - not bloody Austen characters!
The past few days on here has made me see that Matt Walsh, Owen Jones and Billy Bragg should form a little support group to deal with their irritation at women.