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Raising awareness for wild animals 🐰🦦🦎🐟🦔 ''Unseen they suffer. Unheard they cry. In agony they linger. In loneliness they die.''
Joined January 2023
As a society, we have a duty to develop responsible, evidence-based approaches to intervene in nature in order to improve the welfare of wild animals. No one deserves to endure being eaten alive, dying slowly from disease, parasites, or starvation. We can and must change nature.
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“the debate on the problem of predation for animal ethics remains alive and seems destined to significantly develop in the years ahead” - Cormier and Rossi (2024)
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Modern science has value in nature back-to-front. Animal welfare is more important than anything else in nature. Populations, taxa, biomes, ecosystems cannot experience anything and don’t value anything. But individual animals can suffer and value their welfare and lives.
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Almost everyone accepts that nature is brutal, and we as a species have escaped much of that brutality. But few seem to be open to helping other species escape. This will likely change this century as technology makes doing so feasible.
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These normie 'vegans' pmo. Women rights aren't exclusively protection from men. Black rights aren't exclusively protection from white people Why is that when it comes to animal rights, they're thought to be exclusive to protection from humans? Insanely dumb people.
@Appoota @plantmuncherr Nope. The only relevant rights are the rights of animals to be free from exploitation and harm from humans. You’d be violating that if you killed some animals, supposedly to spare others (and not even succeeding). Take vegan out of your bio because you are absolutely not one.
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Yes, it is absolutely wrong for lions to kill and eat innocent sentient beings too. #AbolishPredation And you’re a vegetarian? Gross! #GoVegan
@sibaburck Look, I’m a vegetarian, but the problem with your argument is that if you claim “it’s wrong to eat meat,” you have to apply that moral standard consistently across all animals. So, is it wrong for a lion to eat meat?
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We wiped out smallpox nearly half a century ago. We eradicated rabies in wild animals in certain regions. With modern technology, we can help wild animals by eliminating many other painful diseases. https://t.co/eCWb4s2umh
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@cryptocatcallz @NothingIsArt You're looking at this from the wrong lens. Think of the victim instead of the perpetrator. Why should we not help them when they're suffering just because their perpetrator isn't a moral agent? We don't use that argument for humans in pain.
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The future belongs to those who refuse to accept suffering as destiny.
Cancer, aging and death don't give life meaning. It's our enemy, wake up.
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Assuming we don't find other testing methods, the number of beings helped will almost instantly surpass the number tested on. You're ending the annual slaughter of trillions+ that otherwise would continue in perpetuity.
It’s not obvious that predation abolition is morally obligatory/permissible. It involves changing the bodies of every animal and, without their consent. It also would involve an absurd amount of animal testing, which itself would have us explicitly killing/making animals suffer.
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Quite the opposite. I’m vegan because I don’t respect nature and, unlike non-vegans, I don’t see dumb fucking carnivorous animals as role models. Nature should be veganized and predation abolished. The rights of sentient beings is what I respect.
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The technology that will play a key role in abolishing predation, gene drives, can also be used to solve much of skeptics concerns: manage herbivore populations, prevent disease outbreaks, control invasive/"pest" populations, etc.
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It's completely unsurprising to me. You said torturing animals is wrong, which seems uncontroversial, but you said it to a video of a "pest" being tortured, and worse, an insect. People don't empathize well with insects, and the "pest" nature makes them enjoy their pain. See:
I expect people to defend animal cruelty for animal products. I’m used to that. I wasn’t expecting people to defend animal cruelty for pure sadism. That genuinely surprised me.
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Yes. We actually won’t be deserving of our “sapient” label if, in the relatively near future, we fail to extend the circle of moral consideration to all sentient beings and fail, at least, to agree that predation is a moral problem to be solved.
I think the moral circle will envelop all sentient beings fairly soon leading to predation abolition
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"Butcherbirds" impale their victims before eating them. A civilized world has no place for the brutality of predation.
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Herbivorization would likely extend lifespans not only by ending predation. “Primarily herbivorous mammalian orders, such as Rodentia, Primates, Artiodactyla, and Marsupialia, have lower malignant or benign tumour prevalence than Carnivora.”
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@asbLBL @classicaldoom @NothingIsArt @herbivoryze You could say the same about human predators, like murderers and rapists. No, there's no "right" to prey on other animals, it's just something that has evolved as an exploitative non-mutualistic strategy. We can intervene in ecosystems and make them more or entirely mutualistic.
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