To the many feminists raging in the comments:
I hereby apologize for the terrible crime of wearing a dress. I'm sorry for the harm I've caused by existing and wearing clothes.
@oatsandmag
Detransitioners are important to listen to and I have great respect for detransitioners who participate in gender discourse.
It's probably emotionally exhausting, but they do it anyway because they want to protect other people from harm and suffering. Admirable.
@tweisen87
@Aella_Girl
Science is a process that finds out true things. It doesn't require credentials. Whether something is true is separate from whether the person saying it has institutional credentials.
GC feminists often say that "so long as you stay out of female only spaces, no one has a problem", but the last day of silly histrionics has shown that this isn't true!
Many of them simply dislike the fact that autogynephilic males exist, and they resent being reminded of us.
@autogynephilic
No one cares what you wear. But stop trying to get everyone playing along with your delusions. You are a man in a dress. So long as you stay out of female only spaces, no one has a problem.
@genspect
I know it hurts to be attacked by one's own political tribe, but apologies will never satisfy the mob.
If Genspect can't talk openly about autogynephilia, then it won't be able to help most gender dysphoric boys (or their parents).
THE INCOMPATIBILITY BETWEEN ACTIVISM AND TRUTH-SEEKING
Sometimes people are wrong about themselves. It’s rude to point out in social situations but true nonetheless. No one has perfect knowledge of themselves.
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Since people can be wrong about themselves, “lived experience” is not a reliable foundation for knowledge[3].
We don’t create true knowledge by uncritically accepting people’s testimony of themselves.
The concept of autogynephilia will continue to spread through trans culture because it is true and readily observable.
It would be a better long-term strategy to shift away from "AGP isn't real" and move toward "it's okay to be AGP and to transition because of it"
One of the worst developments I've seen in overall trans culture is how many people are constantly talking about "AGPs" like that's a thing. Just crab-bucket behavior at each other over a concept that should have died out decades ago
At its core, the Gender Critical movement is a female rights movement.
GCs sometimes pay lip service to the plight of gender dysphoric males, but such males are not their priority and are not considered in their policy preferences.
Why the Gender Critical movement as it presently stands will never receive broad support:
Gender criticality is about centering biological sex over the concept of gender being detached from sex, right? It's about not wanting men in women's spaces... right? And it's also about
I thought that since men like
@BenjaminABoyce
@ConceptualJames
and
@wesyang
were at the Genspect conference, that it was inclusive of both sexes.
I didn't realize that it was a female-only conference. My bad!
I'll be sure to check the fine print next time.
There are two main types of trans: homosexual and autoheterosexual.
The latter is far more common.
Since the autohet type is the norm, the fastest way to grasp transness is to grok its most common form:
@jack_turban
@AshleyGWinter
"cross-sex hormones" is the most accurate way to describe exogenous hormones taken to make a person more closely resemble the other sex
@NeuroSGS
Correct. I am autogynephilic and can confirm that autogynephilia is a real phenomenon that millions experience.
I also wrote a science book that comprehensively explains autogynephilia, autoandrophilia, and other autosexual orientations
The transgender movement applied intense pressure to excise autogynephilia from literature published by professional organizations (eg DSM + SoC) and they were moderately successful at doing this.
And now they spin this outcome as evidence that the theory is flawed.
Another interesting thing about AGP that I only learned relatively recently is that it was never mainstream. It's a fringe kook theory taken up by a couple sexologists, certain reporters, and anti-trans activists (but I repeat myself).
Thread Directory for
Autoheterosexual: Attracted to Being the Other Sex
A book about the most common kind of trans.
It comes out June 13th.
⭐To make the ideas spread, RT the threads!⭐
Cover, Dedication, Table of Contents:
@wil_da_beast630
Wouldn't it be more likely that they have ideological motivations rather than remunerative motivations?
(though I guess *both* could be true)
I like what I'm seeing with the self-aware AGP discourse on Twitter.
I want to thank y'all for being thoughtful, honest, and kind in the way you're conducting yourselves.
This behavior will create more self-aware AGPs and help reduce the toxicity of AGP discourse.
ok whoever is out there wearing a blue skirt and matching tank that says “BLANCHARD WAS RIGHT and that’s ok” at a jazz festival u r confusing this poor man
Although some people say that autogynephilia isn't in the DSM, it definitely is. It's mentioned as a predisposing factor for the development of gender dysphoria.
I would also like to apologize for walking around at the Genspect conference instead of simply sitting down.
I now understand that my ambulatory ways were harmful and I hope that people can forgive me for moving myself from one place to another.
AGP Memes Thread!
Props to
@Naozymandias
for collecting many of these.
Fellow AGPs, consider bookmarking this thread so you can find the right meme when opportunity strikes
@buttonslives
Brave (and correct) post.
Chronophilias fall into several groups (nepio, pedo, hebe, ephebe), so it's useful for researchers to have an umbrella label for chronophilias pertaining to people who are legally minors.
What is the purpose of Genspect?
Does Genspect exist to reduce gender-related distress?
Or are its priorities elsewhere?
(can we please start talking about reality instead of dancing around the Uncomfortable Fact that autosexuality is where most dysphoria comes from)
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@NeuroSGS
It used to annoy me a lot more, but as I learned more I realized it's not personal and also that they genuinely don't think they are lying to me. Their denial comes from a need to protect a part of themselves they love from an idea which they regard as a threat to it.
"he must have known"
No.
Nobody complained to me at the conference, and the only reason people are talking about the fact I wore a dress is because Gender Critical feminists subjected Genspect to a struggle session a couple days later.
This. This is where I stand. Thank you, Heather, for articulating it so clearly. Like you, I don't think Phil is a creep. But his decision to wear that dress to our conference was offensive and highly insensitive to those he must have known would be made uncomfortable by it.
Nope. I did not expect people at a conference full of gender heretics to be upset by a literal man in a dress.
That outfit is a pretty standard outfit of mine that I wear most weeks in the winter, and nobody complained about it to me while I was there.
@HPluckrose
@TylerJTalks
@autogynephilic
@BenjaminABoyce
@ConceptualJames
Phil, I'm curious if dressing more discreetly in deference to some of the sensitivities articulated by detransitioners and parents of gender confused children was a thought that occurred to you prior to your attendance at the conference and if so what was your basis for rejecting
One of the best threads in r/askAGP this past year was "If heterosexuality was treated like AGP", a post that revealed the odd way that AGP is talked about by talking about heterosexuality in a similar manner:
@Marc_Escens
@EuphoriTori
Since autogynephilic people are attracted to being a woman, some of them get really attached to the idea of being a woman. It can be upsetting for them to hear that the beautiful feeling at the center of their emotional universe is actually a byproduct of male heterosexuality.
@FunkGodArtist
Why the hell did this autogynephilic person do orchi even though they "have no desire to transition" and haven't been on E? Something weird about this case.
@christapeterso
It is a logical consequence of sexual attraction to being a woman that a person can become emotionally attached to being a woman.
This is how sexual orientation works. Sexual orientations have romantic consequences.
Zinnia, it's okay to be autogynephilic.
You don't have to allege that I'm self-hating simply because I use scientifically valid constructs to describe my experience
So a self-hating transfem named Phil went to the Genspect conference to lick some boot; the reaction from transphobes:
"Genspect are a fucking disgrace allowing that pervert"
"It's like having a wine tasting booth at an AA meeting"
"Did all the other attendees consent to that?"
Nope, this is not regressing things. It is revealing that the GCs didn't actually believe something they repeated endlessly for years on end
(that it's okay for men to have feminine gender expression as long as they don't identify as women or use female-only spaces)
@autogynephilic
@elegationvain
All I know Phil, is this mess is regressing things. I am seeing rad fems that used to be all for male gender non conformity joining in with the ranks of people like this. I am seeing more hostility toward "men in dresses".
@autogynephilic
A lot of your detractors seem unaware of your actual stance.
There are a lot of assumptions that, because you claim to be AGP, this must mean that you also push for {insert trans-straw-man}. I don't think any have actually read your tweets, never mind your book.
It's funny how many of the people condemning me for wearing "fetish gear" (AKA a dress) are making such outlandish, wild speculations about the sexual motives of strangers simply for disagreeing with them.
Someone please tell these misandrist sadists to keep it in the bedroom
@goblinodds
They are frequency distributions rotated 90° and mirrored across the vertical centerline. In the spots where the labia are bigger, that means more people ended up in that spot.
The vast majority of the "ROGD" boys are autogynephilic.
Avoiding the subject of AGP and hoping they aren't AGP won't change the fact that they're AGP.
It's the most common type of MTF trans.
@sometherapist
Hi Stephanie and
@autogynephilic
I was deeply disappointed that Phil didn't talk about ROGD boys (he only talked about ROGD girls).
Re: two types of trans (gay and AGP): Did Phil imply that ROGD is a new separate category?
How could you ignore the ROGD boys in this interview??
@SashaLPC
It was great to meet you too Sasha, thanks for having me at the conference.
I liked the open, free discourse there and I'd like to attend in the future. So many gender rebels in one place!
TRULY INFORMED CONSENT
To many trans people, the concepts of autogynephilia and autoandrophilia feel invalidating or bring up feelings they don’t want to address.
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I know my book is a bit long, but if you try a little harder and make it all the way to page 18 you will be rewarded with my clear declaration that sex is "binary and immutable".
@TTExulansic
@autogynephilic
@TTExulansic
You are a detransitioner.
@autogynephilic
is an AGP. He suffers from GD and is thus using radically different starting assumptions (He: "GI reigns supreme" vs you as a realist: "sex is real, binary, immutable"). I think that there is NO way to bridge this gap.
@sometherapist
@HJoyceGender
Yes, actually. Autogynephilic males with severe anatomic dysphoria would still want hormones and surgeries to change their bodies even if it didn't cause any discernable change in how they were treated socially.
Allogynephilia isn’t complicated or deserving of sympathy. It’s a sexual compulsion.
The only thing you need to know is that men who have it will do anything to satisfy it.
It doesn’t belong in public, in school, at work or around families and children.
It’s incredibly
@christapeterso
It is a logical consequence of sexual attraction to being a woman that a person can become emotionally attached to being a woman.
This is how sexual orientation works. Sexual orientations have romantic consequences.
@genspect
@stellaomalley3
@SashaLPC
@jburgo55
My hope is that by spreading knowledge of autoheterosexuality, the people who experience it will suffer less confusion and shame, and they will be better equipped to make decisions regarding gender transition—whatever that decision may be.
RESEARCHERS MUST SEPARATE BY ETIOLOGY AND SEX
Not separating study participants by etiology damages the ability to generate findings particular to each etiology.
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Humans are innately fallible, which is why we have collectively benefited so much from scientific approaches to knowledge production.
Autogynephilic writer Zack M. Davis explained:
Forcing others to be unwilling, nonconsenting participants in my kink is no less than public sexual assault. And I should be treated the same way as a rapist caught in the act.
In her piece, “Autogynephilia: What If It's All True?”, transgender activist and scholar Jessica Xavier sniffed out the unsavory emotion underlying the trans community’s hostility to the idea of autogynephilia: shame.
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Interview between two smart autogynephilic transsexual women. They're excellent AGP ambassadors. Props to Kristina for hosting, and
@doeraymefahsoul
for showing up to share her thoughts and experiences
A male teenager made a post in r/asktransgender saying that they think they might be autogynephilic.
They explicitly stated "right now I need facts and facts only".
The responders couldn't deliver facts though. The replies are lies
@NeuroSGS
Transgenderism researchers should start separating study participants by etiology in order to create knowledge that pertains to each of the four primary transgender subgroups (homosexual MTFs, autoheterosexual MTFs, homosexual FTMs, autoheterosexual FTMs)
Lots of people think I wore that dress because I was seeking attention. That's not the case. I'm indifferent to whether people notice me or like my clothes.
I wore that dress because I commonly wear that dress. It is comfortable winter attire.
@elegationvain
@PTElephant
The choice of THAT particular dress was clearly intended to attract attention. You don't even have to claim it was "fetish gear" to realize that (if you don't, you're one of the many people who were played like a fiddle). So, he got the attention he obviously sought. We can argue
If you or someone you love has experienced gender dysphoria, consider reading my science book about AGP+AAP.
It clearly and directly explains the most common kind of transgender:
It was 95°F that day, and idk that women's harem shorts and a women's racerback tank with a polyamory symbol are "regular clothes", but think whatever you want I guess
I'm still gonna wear dresses because dresses rule, and there's nothing wrong with that
Dear Trans Community, a few impressions of the
@Genspect
conference that you should know.
1. There were transmen, transwomen, and detransitioners in attendance and in conversation with other attendees.
2. There were lots of doctors, therapists, and other service providers who
If someone’s sexuality is displeasing to their idealized self-image, they may lie about it.
They could also simply be unaware of it.
Regardless, their self-reports wouldn’t reflect reality.
3+ years later, AGPs still don't have an "Autogynephilia" Wikipedia page that neutrally describes their sexual orientation so that they may learn about it.
Although autogynephilia is one of the most common erotic variations in men and a major risk factor for gender dysphoria, it does not have its own page in Wikipedia, but rather is ensconced in a page entitled “Blanchard's Transsexualism Typology.”
What questions do you have for an autogynephile? We’re going to be live on
@rumblevideo
at 8pm tonight :) (Someone who is attracted to themselves being seen as a female, born male)
Autogynephilic men are sexually aroused by the thought of themselves as women. and they envy women their desirable physical qualities, which turns the Freudian crackpot idea of penis envy on its head.
This epistemic malpractice obscures the path to new knowledge and cripples the knowledge-production process.
It also damages the ability of individuals in those groups to learn true, actionable knowledge about themselves.
Been following the GC folks from a distance and the response to this man wearing a dress is very illuminating. For a segment of the feminists within this loose movement, they are not interested in helping people with gender dysphoria (maybe girls only) nor in scientific study. 🧵
Just as individuals can be wrong about themselves, groups of people can be collectively wrong about their group—especially if an inconvenient truth sullies their collective self-image.