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Jordan retired 3x from the same sport in a span of 10 years, yet he was celebrated & admired.
James considers retirement after 20 straight years in the NBA & he gets criticized for it.
The most scrutinized & underappreciated athlete of all-time.
Basketball discourse is rotten.
LeBron hinting that he may retire is nothing more than master media manipulation. Every time LeBron fails, he uses his inner circle to change the narrative. Brilliant.
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Lebron is 38, in year 20, playing on a foot that requires surgery after the season, he is the underdog in the series without home-court advantage and has already outplayed Curry 4-times in their 4 Finals meetings.
Yet, he is the one who has more to lose?
The agenda never stops.
LeBron has more to lose in this series than Steph!
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No wonder why MJ said that he wouldn't have survived in the social media era.
The funniest part about Kwame Brown’s comments is that LeBron has literally hit the most clutch shots in history.
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Krause was named general manager after Jordan’s rookie season. As a GM he:
- traded for Pippen
- drafted Grant
- hired Tex Winter
- hired Phil Jackson
- drafted Toni Kukoc
- traded for Rodman
Championship cornerstones, yet MJ's mockumentary portrayed management malpractice. POS
A lot of people are surprised about the Bulls fans booing Jerry Krause’s wife tonight at the ring ceremony, but Chicago never got over him breaking up Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. They’re still mad to this day bc they probably left 3-5 more championships on the table; John Paxton
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MJ signed off on his documentary during the 2016 Cavs parade as he didn't appreciate the admiration that James was getting.
MJ partnered with ESPN in 2023 to have a "Jordan day" on the week James was projected to break the all-time scoring record.
His actions do all the talking
why do I see lebron always talking about mj but I never seen mj talking about lebron? There’s levels to dis
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Kobe Bryant, the most prolific scorer of his generation, deepest scoring bag, killer, assassin, mamba, pure hooper, you name it, finished Top 3 in PPG 8-TIMES in his 20-year career.
"No bag" Lebron finished Top 3 in PPG 11-TIMES in his 20-year career.
One was a VOLUME scorer.
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Artest: "Jordan gave me 40 when I was in my defensive prime"
Reality: Jordan didn't even crack the 30-point mark
Myths. CONDITIONING. Revisionist history.
The cornerstones of MJ's world-class branding.
MJ was phenomenal but the lies & exxagerations make him look unsurpassable
Ron Artest says MJ is BETTER than LeBron and Kobe
Shanon asked Artest how much Jordan would average in this era he says without hesitation, “Jordan would average 50.”
Artest is an all world defender and he has matched up with all of these guys, great source to listen to🤔
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Lebron James currently has the highest PPG for 3 different franchises
Lakers - 27.5
Cavaliers - 27.2
Heat - 26.9
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Only a Curry stan would have the audacity and insecurity to call the player that won 2 FMVPs as Curry's teammate a "sidekick".
They try to cancel Durant's 2 rings and make them feel weightless, yet, somehow elevate Steph by using those same 2 rings as part of their argument.
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Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were notorious pick-pocketers.
They made the Playoffs a combined 28-times and led their teams in Steals Per Game a combined 15-times. MJ (9) & Kobe (6).
Lebron James made the Playoffs 15-times and led his teams in Steals Per Game all 15-times.
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Michael Jordan PLAYED in 179 Playoff Games in his career
Lebron James WON 174* Playoff Games in his career
Michael Jordan PLAYED in 37 Playoff Series in his career
Lebron James WON 39* Playoff series in his career
Yet, James is viewed as not a winner
*The most in NBA history
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Lebron is in the GOAT convo with 4 because he was the best Finals performer 8x.
Curry isn't in the convo with 4 because he was the best Finals performer 1x.
There is a Grand Canyon-size difference between the two players & this is just one aspect.
Stop forcing this comparison!
If Lebron was in the goat convo with 3 rings why can’t Steph in it with 4?
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NBA Finals FAVORITES
Lebron - 3 of 10
+121 underdog on average
Kobe - 7 of 7
-700 favorite on average
Curry - 6 of 6
-372 favorite on average
Jordan - 6 of 6
-392 favorite on average
Only one of them played on "superteams". Any guesses?
Uncontextualized ring count is bogus.
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Jordan showcased 70% of James' individual dominance in those Finals and it was enough to secure him 3 more rings as the favorite against more inferior opponents.
James demonstrated 130% of Jordan's dominance and it still wasn't enough as an underdog vs more superior opponents.
Not a chance in hell that LeBron could play like MJ did in the 96 NBA Finals (especially) and 98 NBA finals and come out with 2 titles and 2 FMVPs.
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This is an NBA head coach, not some random Joe from the upper deck. Badmouthing any opposing player just because your team is getting annihialated shows no class whatsoever. It's especially a weak & disrespectful move knowing that the player basically can't/won't retaliate.
LEAKED Audio Of Ime Udoka Trash Talking LeBron James👀:
Udoka: “Stop crying like b*tches, man”
LeBron: “We’re all grown men, that b*tch word ain’t cool”
Udoka: “Soft a** boy, stop b*tching. Acting like you’re gonna do something”
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Lebron in his prime was 6'9 265 lbs. Speed, strengths, skill, finesse.
Jordan (6'6) from '84 until '90 was 195-200 lbs, similar parameters to Lonzo Ball or Lavine. In '91 he bulked up to 215 lbs, equaling Derozan's body parameters.
James would have moved him like a rag doll
“LeBron couldn’t beat MJ 1-on-1”
If only we had tape of MJ trying to stop a 6’9 star before…
This is what gets me about MJ stans, do yall not watch the film? Look how bad this defense is, dude was a gambler on and off the court, objectively bad fundamentals, but lots of steals
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@RickKamlaSports
If Michael Jordan was as mentally tough as Lebron James, he would have continued the grind for 20 straight years and he would not have retired 3-times.
He wasn't cut from the same cloth.
Happy insecurity day!
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Jordan was Teflon. He was a brand, a celebrity, a cash cow. It was in no one's interest to bash him or be overly critical of him. He was allowed to have fun, play his best & sell shoes in the process.
His greatest feats were amplified & his not-so-great moments were disregarded.
Jordan while gambling, right after getting swept in back-to-back years by the Celtics:
“This is fun!... We just lost to the Boston Celtics, but guess what? I'm winning!"
What would media do to LeBron if he did this?
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Jordan went 1-3 against the Pistons in 4 years
James went 1-3 against the Warriors in 4 years
They both played like a superhuman
MJ was an underdog 3x and favored 1x ('91)
James was an underdog all 4x
One is celebrated for it, the other is criticized for it
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Last night, Lebron James recorded his 180th Playoff career WIN.
That's 1 more than Michael Jordan's total career Playoff games PLAYED.
His sustained excellence is unparalleled and his full body of work is untouchable.
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Unpopular facts about Kobe's Finals resumé:
- His teams were favored all 7x
- He was the best player 2x
- 2004 marks the biggest NBA Finals betting upset in history
- His career scoring efficiency (FG% & TS%) in the Finals is the lowest in the last 50 years (by games+volume)
5 rings through 7 NBA finals in a 10 year span putting up 28, 6 and 5 on pure skill in the toughest era of the West against a stacked deck of HOF players/coaches. No forcing media narratives. No stat hunting. No controlling front offices. No gimmick. Stone cold killer and winner.
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Celebrating the win of a 7-game tournament that all 30 teams tried to win was ridiculed but celebrating 1 regular season game that only 2 teams wanted to win does not spark a public outrage.
You see how rotten & toxic the NBA discourse has become because of one man's dominance?
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I agree with everything he said except his closing line: "They don't think about Michael Jordan".
That's the elephant in the room right there. The root cause of this toxic discourse. They created the "ring culture" because of MJ (to discredit Lebron) and it's become detrimental.
“I don’t enjoy what the NBA as a whole is becoming”
- Damian Lillard
(Via
@OldManAndThree
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Lebron "he is a good defender when he tries" James has been putting together a defensive clinic so far in these 2023 Playoffs.
At 38, he is at the top by every advanced metric, showcasing his unique impact, and outplaying the league's top MVP vote-getters so far.
Unprecedented.
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Lebron makes the shot
"It was a lucky shot vs a depleted play-in team"
Lebron misses the shot
"He isn't clutch"
Magic makes that pass
“He’s a winner”
Bird makes that pass
“High IQ”
Jordan makes that pass
“He designed the play”
Kobe takes & misses the shot
“Mamba mentality”
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PLAYOFFS
35pt Games
Kobe 39
Lebron 65
40pt Games
Kobe 13
Lebron 29
45pt Games
Kobe 5
Lebron 11
50pt Games
Kobe 1
Lebron 1
FINALS
30pt Games
Kobe 13
Lebron 22
35pt Games
Kobe 4
Lebron 12
40pt Games
Kobe 1
Lebron 8
45pt Games
Kobe 0
Lebron 1
50pt Games
Kobe 0
Lebron 1
@shendy456
35 pts is a longevity stat...really elite scorers start at 40pts+
40pt Games
Kobe 122
LeBron 74
50pt Games
Kobe 25
LeBron 14
60pt games
Kobe 6
LeBron 1
70pt games
Kobe 1
LeBron 0
80pt games
Kobe 1
LeBron 0
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"Nobody fears Lebron James"
Except the entire Michael Jordan legacy-protecting cult, including media workers and even front office people.
Folks are not afraid. They are TERRIFIED.
"Their owner doesn't want LeBron infringing upon Michael's legacy... The intel is that they are just not going to help LeBron"
- Eric Pincus on the Bulls refusing to trade with the Lakers (i.e. getting Caruso back)
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"Kobe is the Best Playoff Performer since MJ"
OVERROMANTICIZING would be an understatement.
Better than anything overrated
@KingJames
has ever done in the playoffs.
Still the best playoff performer since MJ.
No cap, kids.
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MJ's "Tough Road" in the Playoffs
vs
Lebron's "Cakewalk" in the "Weak East"
FACTS > Fiction
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Bill Russell, Tim Duncan, Scottie Pippen. Some of the best defenders this game has ever seen.
Yet, Lebron James has the highest Defensive Win Shares in the Playoffs in the LAST 50 YEARS!
James' defense is one of the most underrated and underappreciated aspects of his game.
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The BEST PLAYER in a Finals series
James 8/10
Jordan 6/6
Bryant 2/7
Curry 1/6
Underdog in a Finals series
James 7/10
Jordan 0/6
Bryant 0/7
Curry 0/6
When people look beyond the contextless ring count, they will realize that James' dominance and full body of work is unmatched.
LeBron's last 3 Finals series losses:
34.6 PPG - 11.6 RPG - 9.5 APG - 27.3 GmSc - 11.2 BPM
Jordan's last 3 Finals series wins:
31.1 PPG - 5.4 RPG - 4.2 APG - 21.1 GmSc - 9.5 BPM
Steph's last 3 Finals series wins:
28.7 PPG - 6.7 RPG - 6.9 APG - 22.7 GmSc - 8.7 BPM
Kobe's
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Lebron's soon-to-be all-time scoring record would be preceived a lot differently if people didn't use the word "chasing" all the time?
He ain't chasing nobody.
He's been gradually catching up to Kareem without the slighest intention of forcing anything that's out of character.
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They went from ridiculing the 2-10 start to blaming James for Russ to doubting their ability to make the PS to predicting a 1st round exit to predicting a 2nd round exit to still not picking LA to win to belittling a ring that would be historically unprecedented by any definition
.
@Realrclark25
thinks a championship for LeBron this season would be his "least impressive." 👀
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If we exclude Lebron, MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Kareem & KD, Steph has a lashed-together GOAT case:
2015 - outplayed by James
2016 - outplayed by James & Irving
2017 - outplayed by James & KD
2018 - outplayed by James & KD
2019 - outplayed by Kawhi
2022 - his 1st FMVP in 6 tries
Kenny Smith straight up hating on Steph Curry on Inside. Come on, bro.
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"Kobe was better than Lebron"
Debunking the MYTH
DAY
#1
- SCORING (18 slides)
🧵
Like, RT, Comment
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Jordan should have known better when he decided to make a bad portrayal of Scottie in the Last Dance series. He was too egotistical and insecure to shed any meaningful light on anyone but himself. He couldn't help himself, that's his persona.
That was the last drop in the bucket
“He was a horrible player. He was horrible to play with.”
Scottie Pippen talking about MJ 😳
(h/t
@DieHardCBfans
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@casualtakeking
- 3 failed switches to give Kawhi a better matchup than Dort
- Kawhi dribbled the air out of the ball, was playing hero ball, and it led to a brick
- Dort's perimeter defense on this play was phenomenal
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The right question is: How much better was Lebron James as a playoff performer?
And the answer is: There is a sizeable difference compared to Kobe. Lebron tops Kobe in every aspect imaginable: Scoring, playmaking, defense, wins, production, impact, efficiency, and consistency.
Better playoff performer thread
Tell me who the better playoff performer is historically
1st up:
Kobe or Lebron?
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"Jordan faced far better defensive teams during the Playoffs"
"Lebron played in the no-defense era and had a cakewalk"
"Tough vs Tougher" would sound much more accurate than "Tough vs Weak", but the MJ myth factory must always take it to the extremes
Make your own assessment!
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Lebron's career average scoring distance:
12 feet - Layup Merchant
Jordan's career average scoring distance:
13 feet - Elite 3-level scorer
“LeBron was a layup merchant compared to MJ”
Bruh if MJ couldn’t get to the rim just say that. 🤣 No reason to bring LeBron into it.
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The most atrocious superstar whistle in NBA history. Data indicates that the refs have changed the way they officiate James since he first left CLE. The league could never truly let go of their villain perception.
Imagine his career numbers & accomplishments with a fair whistle.
“Refs help LeBron”.
This play is the microcosm of this game, of his treatment since he first left Cleveland and definitely his time in LA.
A lot of you hate filled clowns have been watching it & trying to ignore it.
Too bad film doesn’t lie.
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Lebron James WON:
More regular season games
More regular season MVPs
More Playoff games
More Playoff series
More Finals MVPs
There is no angle by which Kobe comes out on top whether it's statistics, accolades, records, totality, or peak performance.
Maybe except for POPULARITY
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Not denying Kobe's greatness and unique talent but for a player of his caliber as described, winning 1 MVP in 20 seasons, 2 FMVPs in 5 winning Finals series, and having 1 40+ point Finals game in 7 Finals/35 games is somewhat contradicting to this godly image that they portray.
Will Barton says Kobe Bryant is the best basketball player of all-time. Yet another pro breaking down the real.
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@BigBucketSports
@FunFactsnStats
"Lebron needed superteams to win"
1x 60+ win team in the last 11 years
"Jordan didn't need superteams to win"
5x 60+ win teams in his 6 title years
*3x 67+ win teams(1x 72-win team)
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NBA Finals Series Odds - Historical Perspective
Lebron James' teams were Finals underdogs in 7 of his 10 Finals series
For comparison, Kareem, Kobe, MJ, Curry, Magic, Duncan, Shaq, and Durant were Finals underdogs 7-times COMBINED in 54 total Finals series.
"sUpErTeAmS"
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These are headlines by mainstream NBA media recently. Do they give the impression that they'd like Lebron to win his 5th ring?
From my angle, they are paving the way to tarnish Lebron if his team loses, while going over and beyond to prop up Curry hoping that he goes all the way
Steph Curry getting his 5th ring before LeBron is the NBA media's worst nightmare. They've invested so much time & energy into Bron & forcing him into the GOAT debate that Steph getting his 5th this year would single-handedly make them all look like idiots.Thats why they hate him
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Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant in 87 Finals games
- 8 40+ point games
Lebron James in 55 Finals games
- 8 40+ point games
Stephen Curry in 147 playoff games played in his career
- 8 +40 point games
LeBron James in the 2018 playoffs alone
- 8 +40 point games
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This record was unanimously regarded as unbreakable for 40 years. 10 years ago, this feat was totally unrealistic. 5 years ago, most people were still calling it a long shot for Lebron. Now we are at the brink of a record-breaking and it's no longer as sensational for many.
Article from B/R in 2014:
“Even if Bryant stays healthy and averages 20 ppg, it would still take him well into the 2018-19 season before he could reasonably be expected to break KAJ's mark.
The next best hope, then, would be LeBron James, currently at 23,003 and counting.
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There is no such thing as a "Jordan hater".
What people hate are exaggerations, overblown myths, fallacies & double standards that have been forged with Jordan's storytelling.
When a fundamentally flawed logic & reasoning are confronted, it's offensive and perceived as "hate".
Michael Jordan haters weren’t really a thing till this era of clickbait and cheap reaction hunting 🤦🏽♂️🤣 He went 20 + years being universally celebrated as the greatest athlete arguably ever and now all of a sudden there’s casuals who talk down on his run and greatness?
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Lebron did make mistakes but he also made 50x more game-changing BIG plays on both ends. He was literally the best 2-way player in the series.
Yet, James is expected to play FLAWLESS basketball. Even at 39 with the most minutes ever.
Unparalleled expectations.
GOAT standards.
“He was awesome or making mistakes, like BIG mistakes, at critical points in the game”
—
@_JasonLT
tries to make sense of LeBron's contribution to the end of the Lakers season
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"Lebron can only score at the basket, he has no game outside of 3 feet" - Daily Twitter wisdom
Average Career Shot Distance (data available from '96):
Shaq - 4 ft
Duncan - 7 ft
Giannis - 9 ft
Malone - 11 ft
James - 12 ft
Jordan - 13 ft
Kawhi - 13 ft
Durant - 14 ft
Kobe - 14 ft
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Nobody is held to Lebron James standards.
He is the GOAT for a reason.
Every other all-time great can just hoop & be praised when they play great. When they don't, everyone instinctively looks the other way & there is no scrutiny, harsh criticism, targeted jabs or legacy talks.
Going to be an interesting real time media study to see if the soon to be 3x MVP/nearly unanimous Best Player Alive gets held to the same standard as the oldest player in the league in Year 21 by my colleagues across sports media today…
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James hasn't been off to a great start and is still looking for his rhytm. In Year 20 he averages 27-11-7 after 3 games, leads his team in PPG, RPG, APG and Top 15 in the NBA in
PPG - 13th
VORP - 1st(tied)
BPM - 7th
DBPM - 13th
DWS - 15th
Yet, he needs to be better.
STANDARDS.
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For the record, the all-time scoring record didn't make Lebron James the GOAT.
He was already the GOAT.
What breaking this record did was it made him the UNDISPUTED GOAT.
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FUN FACT:
5-3, 136lb Muggsy Bogues played 14 seasons in the NBA, was a starting PG for the majority of his career, and played 30 minutes per game between 1990 and 1998.
But 6-9, 260lb Lebron James wouldn't survive in the tough and rugged 90s.
@Super70sSports
@joefana
FUN FACT: The cast of NBA players in the movie Space Jam combined to win 6 rings during their playing careers.
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Those people who still claim the 80s & 90s to have had better defenses, haven't watched a single 80s & 90s game since the 80s & 90s. That was 40 years ago and they only remember the occasional brawls and scuffles that made up only 0.00001% of their renowned "world-class defense".
Defenses being better back in the day is such a fucking myth🤣🤣🤣
A flagrant foul here and there doesn’t equal good defense🤦♂️🤦♂️
It would be criminal what Kobe, Lebron, Russ, Curry, KD, Harden, Kyrie, Dame, Melo, Giannis, Kawhi, etc would do to an 80s 90s defense 🤣
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The 2015 Finals MVP voting is a historical disgrace to date.
Lebron James was far & away the best individual player in the series. 36-13-9. Objectively, the trophy was his to take despite the loss. His heroics were screaming for an honor & recognition, similarly to West in 1969.
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Source: "Trust me bro"
"Eye test" on full display
People watch Lebron with a filter that only allows them to see his imperfections & overlook all the things that make him 1of1
Their eyes can see it but their brains can't process it as the conditioning caused irreparable damage
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Lebron James made the NBA Finals 10-times. His teams were the Finals underdogs in 7 of them.
That's as many as
Magic (3)
Jabbar (2)
Bird (2)
Jordan (0)
Kobe (0)
Curry (0)
Durant (0)
had COMBINED!
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Everybody thought it was gonna last forever. This record was universally regarded as one of the unbreakable ones for damn near 40 years.
10 years ago it looked impossible, even 5 years ago it was considered wildly unrealistic.
People have no idea what they are about to witness
“When LeBron passes Kareem in scoring, it will be a hard pill to swallow. He thought the record would last forever”
- Magic Johnson
👀🔥
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I have a strong argument for Lebron being a better SCORER than Kobe Bryant
Sounds like a reach?
I have researched their 20-year careers and assessed their overall productivity, efficiency, consistency, longevity, and peak performances at every stage.
Draw your own conclusions!
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"Jordan lost in 1995 because he was rusty"
In 2020, Toni Kukoc came out and told the truth: Jordan was not rusty. He was practicing with the team all year. He moved his stuff back to the locker room in the summer of 1994. He was preparing a comeback. It was just a matter of WHEN
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Lebron clears by a landslide.
My bad. BY A COUNTRY MILE.
Early career, prime, peak, post-prime, you name it.
Regular season, Postseason, Head-to-Head years, all the same.
James has been a more physical, more impactful, and more versatile defender.
Give it up already
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Who's gonna tell him?
@Stats_N_Facts
@dubsforever8
That man never played all 5 y’all gotta stop with this false info
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IN THE 90s, the "90s NBA" was described as a WATERED DOWN LEAGUE & DILUTED PRODUCT.
Today the "90s NBA" is referred to as the most superior era of all-time. What enhanced its once subpar quality? Media PORTRAYAL.
90s gatekeepers have gone over & beyond to change the perception.
EXPOSING HORRIBLE 90'S NBA DEFENSES.
MJ'S COMPETITION WAS GARBAGE! MUST WATCH!
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Giannis attempted 205 mid-range shots in the 2021-22 season and made 42% of them.
Embiid also made 42% of his shots from the same distance
He is widely considered a solid mid-range shooter, while Giannis is often labeled as a brick-layer from 3 feet out
Perspective. Perception
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@kylekuzma
How the hell did Kobe have 0 NBA seasons in 20 years when he was far and away the most impactful, most dominant, most valuable player in the league?
In his era, he could never demonstrate the same individual value & impact like O'Neal, Duncan, Garnett or James.
That's why.
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@SFsGOAT
In which year from the 2000s was Kobe the clear-cut best player in the league?
In 2000, 2001, and 2002 - Shaq was the best player in the NBA and on the Lakers (with Kobe)
2003 & 2004 - Duncan
2005 - Definitely not Kobe
2006-2010 - Lebron James
Most Popular ≠ Best player
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Lebron James is legitimately one of the 5-10 best players in the world even at 39. Some nights, he plays like the BEST IN THE WORLD.
When Barkley retired in 2000, he barely cracked the Top 100 in the league, was overweight, a negative defender with measly production and impact.
“I hope he retires soon because I hated the way I retired… Your ego says you can still do it… I don’t want to see any great players play when they’re past their prime.”
Charles Barkley on why he thinks LeBron James should retire 🗣️
(via
@ClubShayShay
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@DieHardCBfans
When was his 48-inch vertical recorded? In an article I found on the subject, the Sargent test recorded 42 inches. That puts his head right at rim level which seems accurate considering the the photo and video evidence that we have about his leaping ability. 48 inches is a myth.
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Here's a comparison between Kareem & Kyrie. It's simple:
Footwork: Kyrie
Post-game: Kareem
Mid-range: Kyrie
Three ball: Kyrie
Defense: Kareem
Handles: Kyrie
Clutch: Kyrie
Free throw: Kyrie
Off-ball: Kyrie
Demoralizing a defense: Kyrie
Killer Mentality: Kyrie
Longevity: Kareem
Stat casuals often get confused when high level pro's who played against Kobe Bryant and LeBron James still chose the Mamba. It's simple:
Foot-work: Kobe
Post-game: Kobe
Mid-range: Kobe
Three ball: Kobe
Defense: Kobe
Handles: Kobe
Clutch shot making: Kobe
Free throw: Kobe
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For damn near 90% of the season, the Lakers and Lebron were not expected to make the Playoffs.
They were not expected to get out of the 1st round.
They were not expected to get out of the 2nd round.
Lebron's legacy can only be enhanced this season but no outcome can tarnish it
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Kobe's shortcomings & underwhelming plays in big games are literally erased from memory mostly because his teams won anyway & because there was a positivity bias toward him where his brightest moments & career highlights got immortalized, while outliers were collectively ignored.
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@dubsforever8
Bro will play great defense the whole game, get 1-2 blocks, steals, lock up his opponent, play all 5 positions, create turnovers, take charges, and have all the advanced defensive metrics support his prowess, yet they'll say he plays 0 defense.
Story of his career.
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@lisenby_bradley
MJ's brand is worth billions of dollars. He is a businessman who will go over and beyond to protect his brand & maintain his revenue flow by any means.
He doesn't talk about Lebron publicly but he makes subtle strategic moves that help downplay Lebron's greatness & elevate his.
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@LetsHoops
In reality, it's the other way around. Since Kobe's tragic death, media and fans on this app want you to believe that the Kobe vs Lebron debate is closer than what it actually is. Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan in many ways, but Lebron is head and shoulders above Kobe.
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Career Avg Shot Dist (Ft)
Zion - 3.7
Shaq - 4.0
Duncan - 8.1
Giannis - 8.6
Davis - 9.5
Jokic - 10.1
Wade - 10.5
Bosh - 11.0
Shai - 11.2
Embiid - 11.6
Garnett - 11.7
Rose - 11.8
Derozan - 12.1
Lebron - 12.1
X will convince you that the guy at the bottom has no game outside 3 ft.
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The same toxic agenda that labeled James, a career 38% scorer outside 3 feet, TRASH, while labeled Kobe, a career 40% scorer outside 3 feet, LETHAL.
This is the power of story-telling.
Those who "tell the story" will condition their listeners to perceive players a specific way
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"Kobe was a better defender than Lebron".
Yet, when looking at their defensive metrics:
1. Lebron cleared Kobe as a defender during their head-to-head (13) years except for his rookie season
2. Kobe never dominated his teams defensively the way Lebron did (20-year sample size)
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HOT TAKE:
Lebron James was better and more dominant in his one and only Finals appearance as a Laker than Kobe Bryant was in any of his 7 Finals as a Laker.
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MJ wasn't the only one getting hit but the fouls on him are the only ones that are advertised, amplified & overused to boost up the era's toughness narrative in which Jordan has been portrayed as the toughest.
The ascendence of his brand ignited exxagerations like never before.
Only the Airsexuals make up lies about Zeke’s career, he gives u nothing but the FACTS. MJ cried even though he got the whistle his entire career, these officials know their cheating Lebron due to his greatness & passing MJ among other Legendary greats. Talk about MELTDOWNS👇🏿😭💀
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Russell (11) & Jones (10) are not on because they were not drafted by the Celtics?
Kobe was not drafted by the Lakers & Dirk was not drafted by the Mavs & still made the list?
Pippen won 6 w/ the Bulls & James won 1 w/ the Cavs. Are they not "stars"?
No logic, just keep MJ
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@HoopMixOnly
This is a compilation of the same 20 dirty plays that the NBA has been replaying for 3 decades to maintain the tough narrative. In MJ's 1200+ NBA games, they hit him hard once in every ~50 games. Yet, they try to sell it as a blood bath every night. It's a ludicrous exxageration.
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- James' Defensive Prowess on his teams in the Regular Season & the Playoffs dwarfs Kobe's
- James' Defensive metrics in their head-to-head (13) years dwarfs Kobe's
The "eye test" suggests that Kobe WANTED it more, while the numbers clearly indicate that James DID it better
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When people say "MJ would average 60 today", they base it off of games & highlights like this.
64 points on 49 SHOTS
~45 shots/game -> winning formula
Mass conditioning & nostalgia made people go out of their minds to a degree that REALITY is no longer part of the equation.
MID-RANGE MASTER 🐐
30 years ago today, Michael Jordan scored 64 POINTS (1 3PT) in a loss to rookie Shaq & the Orlando Magic!
MJ: 64 PTS (27/49 FG), 5 STL, 1 AST
SHAQ: 29 PTS, 24 REB, 5 BLK
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The underlying issue is how Jordan and James are perceived for the same act.
When Jordan did it, his actions were viewed along the lines of passion, will, and a winning mentality.
When James does it, his actions are viewed along the lines of soft, crying, and whining.
“Why is Bron always crying to the officials!”.
Maybe he’s upset for literally betting the worst NBA whistle of all time as a reward for his 1 of 1 Greatness?
Meanwhile MJ, when once in a blue an official decided to “stand up” to him.
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@HaterMuse
These are shots that Kobe took regularly as part of his "mamba mentality". He could make them but he only made a very small portion of them and the rest of them were all wasted possessions that ended with a low-quality shot. Yet, fans admired him for having the guts to take 'em.
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I will never understand why Kobe needs to be forced into comparisons where he is clearly set up for failure.
Kobe's offensive prowess is undeniable but to utter the words that he was a superior offensive player to Lebron when no data supports it is a disservice to his reputation
My goodness y’all won’t like me for saying this… And I get it, as those who hold Lebron as GOAT, you just can’t see it. And I understand.
But the players do see it. There’s bigger and more obvious parts of the game and even the small nuances of the game that Kobe is superior
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@MarcusDominic13
He said he has a lot to think about. That could be retirement, some time off, roster changes, his role or his mental and physical stamina going forward. Not sure why considering retirement at 38 after 20 years, 10 NBA Finals, more games & minutes than anyone else is so outlandish
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@alternativetak3
As I said, Jordan was phenomenal. But the myths, exxagerations and lies elevated him to a level where he is perceived by many as untouchable. This is the byproduct of branding and conditioning.
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Chris Broussard: "I don't think it's fair but this is how a lot of people will view it. There is already some chatter. But it's not me."
Also Chris Broussard: "Lebron has more to lose in the series than Steph!"
Shifting narratives is always triggered by people with a platform.
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Can someone explain how a 38-year Lebron on a bum foot can play all 48 minutes, carry the team offensively, control the pace, make plays, guard 1-5 on defense, rebound & take charges, but his 30-year-old "Top 5 talent" co-star AD can only play 40 minutes in a do or die game?
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@NBAMemes
2018 Lebron: 3 rings - 3 FMVPs - 4 MVPs
2018 Curry: 3 rings - 0 FMVPs - 2 MVPs
"Their legacies are exquisite but still miles apart. Curry has no chance of passing Lebron"
2022 Lebron: 4 rings - 4 FMVPs - 4 MVPs
2022 Curry: 4 rings - 1 FMVP - 2 MVPs
"Can Curry pass Lebron?"
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FINALS - Kobe 2004 vs Lebron 2011
2004 Kobe
- 23 points on 23 shots
- 38 FG%
- 22 AST & 18 TO
- 11 points in Game 3 (4-13 FG)
- 11.6 Individual Game Score
2011 Lebron
- 18 points on 15 shots
- 48 FG%
- 41 AST & 24 TO
- 8 points in Game 4 (3-11 FG)
- 13.7 Individual Game Score
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These were 3 consecutive years in Kobe's prime when Lebron was a far superior defensive player to Kobe who made 3 All-Defensive 1st teams in a row, while James got snubbed all 3 times.
From all angles, Lebron clears Kobe, yet, people use All-Defensive selections as an indicator.
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@NBAMemes
If he sits there in silence, he's unenergetic
If he smiles too much and has fun, he's acting out
If he stays back in the locker room, he's disengaged
If he eats on the bench, he's disrespectful
It's the pre-season. Irrelevant. Meaningless.
AI's mom braided his hair mid-game.
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Career FG% outside of 3 feet
Kobe - 40%
Lebron - 38%
"Kobe could get any shot he wanted, James has no game, he can only score at the basket."
Career FG% within 3 feet
Kobe - 63%
Lebron - 73%
"Kobe and Lebron are equally great rim finishers"
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