@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 months
The reason why the AI cultists believe in it is because they truly do not understand what other minds are.
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@medievalhistory
Chris Riedel
2 months
@Sartor1836 How would they differentiate between Socrates and Plato? Are they just feeding the whole dialogues into an AI learning engine? Does the AI know how distinguish between the invented personas in each?
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Strahan Cadell
2 months
@medievalhistory Exactly. Also, I guarantee they will feed it a public domain English translation.
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@MelegReiziger
MelegReiziger ✝️🟦
2 months
@Sartor1836 The human mind is just an incredibly complex computer, eventually we will have artificial intelligence that can truly replicate life.
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Strahan Cadell
2 months
@ChangeDecember2 That’s a commonly made claim that is more of an convenient analogy than it is a proven fact. To make another analogy, it is like a claim that the human brain is a system that is Gödel-complete.
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@ArgonGruber
argon
2 months
@Sartor1836 TBF, nobody understands what minds truly are. 😅
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Strahan Cadell
2 months
@ArgonGruber Agreed. But the culprits here assume that minds are simply code, when normal folks upon a little reflection realize that they are more than that.
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@JohnHaugeland
John Haugeland
2 months
@Sartor1836 oh my, very special strahan is here to have the secret knowledge that nobody else has
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@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 months
@JohnHaugeland The only knowledge I possess is the same very public knowledge that almost everyone else in the world possesses: that minds are not algorithms just because they can build algorithms.
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@johnnygf
john f
2 months
@Sartor1836 @suzania Student: Plato, how can we have a just society? Plato: Socrates said submit to an elite called the guardians who will give you a job to do that can’t change. The guardians will be wise ‘cos they will submit to a philosopher-king who gives them a different mate each year…
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Strahan Cadell
2 months
@johnnygf @suzania Precisely this nonsense.
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@PrinceTeleporno
裴勇俊 (Customer Not Product)
2 months
@Sartor1836 “these newfangled spears may look flashy but they’ll never beat good old fingernails as the edged weapons of choice.”
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@Brian_Rugg
Brugg
2 months
@Sartor1836 I feel like I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure. Are you saying they lack empathy to understand that others mind's might operate differently from themselves?
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@Ryan_Weller
Straw Man
2 months
@Sartor1836 I think it's a little too generous to assume they understand what AI is.
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@Scoboto193173
Skoboto
2 months
@Sartor1836 I had a programmer friend and I noticed that when he got new information he would think about how to encode it, and if it could not be done, it was somehow unreal.
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@AnimalExtender
Brendan AE
2 months
@Sartor1836 I feel like they think it’ll be like Star Trek where main characters can chat with simulations of Albert Einstein or Leonardo da Vinci on the holodeck
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@CrellyN
Crelly Nagle
2 months
@Sartor1836 Like they’re reading about em now.
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@shogglastresort
Grandma's Monkey
2 months
@Sartor1836 I think the just genuinely don't understand what "AI" is.
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@MichaelBuckelew
Michael Buckelew
2 months
@Sartor1836 Hear me out, but feeding merely the writings of a smart person from thousands of years ago isn’t by any means that person. Try it with Stephen King and see how much folly that is.
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@LilUziVartan
21 kindness
2 months
@Sartor1836 Also chatting with Socrates would be a fucking nightmare
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@Phantomcrossing
Phantom
2 months
@Sartor1836 They do not know that they know nothing
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