@willtube4food
Jakob Mathiszig-Lee
3 years
This will happen in the UK. Don't get conned into training your replacements
@embasic
Steve Carroll DO MEd
3 years
“Physicians aren’t being replaced by CRNAs/NPs/PAs” Exhibit A Optimal patient care and safety is accomplished when physician led teams take care of patients This is why I support Physicians for Patient Protection @pppforpatients
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@ronansetron
Ronan
3 years
@willtube4food a brave tweet! I personally have very little time for consultants who don’t prioritise their trainees, but sadly it happens way too much. Until we reenvision what training looks like, the conflict of interest will only worsen.
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@willtube4food
Jakob Mathiszig-Lee
3 years
@ronanlyne Training is a core part of medical practice, it should be about ensuring the future of quality, physician lead, care.
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@Louisdebernard
Louis de Bernard (he/they) ❄️
3 years
@willtube4food I'm really skeptical of the "physician vs everyone else" mindset this can create... perhaps this is the time to explore perioperative medicine vs anaesthetics etc rather than marginalising a relatively new group of HCP who might just help a *lot* right now in shortage specialties
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@willtube4food
Jakob Mathiszig-Lee
3 years
@Louisdebernard They aren't remotely new. Mid-levels have been a thing in the states for years where they deliver more expensive, poorer quality care than physicians but do contribute to burnout.
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@_JPGSD_
James Durkan
3 years
@willtube4food I'm FY1 & just did a weekend on take w) 3 receiving wards. This wknd NPs couldnt prescribe/order scans/refer. I carried the page and was handed all their admin work. I clerked 1 patient. They saw countless & discussed plans with reg/consultant. I'm a trainee & I learned nothing.
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@willtube4food
Jakob Mathiszig-Lee
3 years
@Jamespgsd Unfortunately not uncommon. When this is raised to people (including heads of colleges/faculties) it's always claimed you havent got direct experience of working with them.
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@ukmat82
Matt Harris ✋
3 years
@willtube4food This is scaremongering at best, AAs have facilitated far MORE training than have ever taken away. With the demands on the workforce, AAs are part of the solution, not the problem.
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@willtube4food
Jakob Mathiszig-Lee
3 years
@ukmat82 It's not scaremongering when there is a literal example of it quoted. AA's don't facilitate training, the lists they do are the best ones for anaesthetists to gain experience of running their own lists.
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@karenstacey82
😷 Karen 🕷
3 years
@willtube4food Couldn’t agree more
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@DrGoblin3
Dr Goblin
3 years
@willtube4food Yip. Need clear clear clear remits and roles, and absolutely stamp out creep when it inevitably happens.
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@Louisdebernard
Louis de Bernard (he/they) ❄️
3 years
@willtube4food The more bubbly side of me says "well isn't this a good reason to dual in ICM as well" 😉😊
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@MedleyMelanin
Zak Hajat
3 years
@willtube4food It is simple math that a department of 50 consultants no longer needs 50 consultants if you hire 10 AA’s on a 2:1 model. But the AA’s can’t cover the on-call... so now a smaller group of consultants have to cover more frequent call. And the same idiots are training them. 🙄
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@telswood
Dr Tom Elswood
3 years
@willtube4food Make no mistakes, the radiology/reporting radiographer creep is real! Skill mix is important, but both bring positives to the table. Clear roles and remits crucial.
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@DavidT_GB
David Troame
3 years
@willtube4food I thought UK ‘medics were well aware of this; the UK Gov’t has been following the NUM strategy against y’all for some years now...
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@drjohnhmiller
john miller
3 years
@willtube4food Hahah. Turkey's vote for Xmas. Extreme role extension is unspoken UK policy. @RCRadiologists Goodytwoshoes cannot see the obvious. Conflict of interests never declared. @BJAJournals
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@EwenPearson2
ep1976
3 years
@willtube4food @drjohnhmiller It is happening already!
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@georgemadden
George Madden
3 years
@willtube4food Perhaps we should be proving why we (physician anaesthetists) are still valuable rather than picking fights and trying to suppress AAs? People like @ukmat82 are much better to have in our team than otherwise
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@chummun_karen
Karen Chummun
3 years
@willtube4food Fantastic! John, I am so please. Pass on my congrat to the whole team!! 🎉
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