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Puriteens are trying to change the meaning of Dead Dove: Do Not Eat so here's a reminder of what it actually means.
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🧵 Thread of articles and research on taboo sexual fantasies 🧵
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The moral panic on display here is insane. Made in Abyss is one of the best anime series one can watch and 700k+ people on MAL have rated it above 8 out of 10. You all need to go outside ASAP.
tw // abuse, torture, sa, mutilation,
oh i’m gonna be sick…..
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Do not trust personal feelings of discomfort when it comes to whether some sexual fantasies are "normal"/"healthy" or not.
Believe the research.
Believe the experts (psychologists, therapists, sexologists, etc).
"I find this gross" is not proof that something is bad/unhealthy.
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Someone tried to claim with their whole chest that this scene is sexualized. The scene starting with the kid saying her abuser was a horrible person, with no "sexy" angle, with sad music playing in the background, with no suggestive (e.g. back and forth movement) animation...
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the person op is calling out is 13... you're in middle school doing this to each other over fiction...
a lot of my moots are moots with / follow @ yumileep , I told him that he was following a proshipper & shotacon (@ valselfcest / proficloser) and here is what he had said about it
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For the record, nobody minds if you just state that you wish there were more fics of your f/f ship.
The problem is that statement being so often accompanied by stuff like "ugh i hate those gross freaky fujos and their gross yaoi they're all lesbophobes bc they don't ship my otp"
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PSA: "kink critical" is radfem rhetoric.
You don't have to believe me, some rando on the internet: check the "kink critical" tag on tumblr and see for yourself.
The Shinigami Eyes extension shows in red the usernames of known TERFs. Now check these screenshots.
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This is a textbook example of a non-sexualized abuse scene. It doesn't linger. Doesn't focus on her body.
A sexualized scene would have her ass up face down, with the camera focusing on her body/thighs/chest, suggestive movements and sounds, a blush on her face and so on.
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This is a tweet about Chainsaw Man
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the "if they both have black hair it makes them look like siblings" one has to be the whitest take I've ever seen
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Antis be like "hi this is my 5th account, my previous 4 accounts all got suspended for violating twitter's rules against abuse and harassment, teehee! Anyway, thread on why liking fictional content i dislike normalizes abuse:"
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antis will say "this character would HATE you if he knew you ship him with his brother!" and the character they're talking about canonically forced his brother to impregnate his sisters, against the consent of all the siblings involved
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Love that PROSHIP is in all caps as if it were the worst thing on the list but stuff like "genocide" or "attempted murder" are in lowercase like an afterthought
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As someone who had a horrible childhood, shows that depict childhood trauma are some of my favorites. Not because I enjoy seeing fictional kids in pain, but because they make me feel understood. When all shows do is give fictional kids happy childhoods, it just feels alienating.
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"people need to remember that the fictional character that doesn't exist can't escape from the fictional story that doesn't exist"
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Black proshipper here. I haven't seen more racists among proshippers than among antis; a lot of antis have a very surface level understanding of racism. They happily say racist stuff that they think they can get away with. That's the point.
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[ Healthline ]
The 7 Most Common Sexual Fantasies and What to Do About Them
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"If being gay is harmless why is outing someone as gay harmful? Checkmate atheists"
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One month later, here's AO3's official response on the zionist volunteers situation.
I don't think there's any problem in continuing to use AO3 (as they don't make any money from people using it) but, personally, I will no longer be supporting AO3 via donations.
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remember when a white anti tweeted something like "me when i have to go to japan to teach japanese people how to not be pedo freaks" and it got tens of thousands of likes, as if that wasn't a disgustingly racist tweet
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[ Psychology Today ]
Why Are "Rape Fantasies" So Common?
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Perfect example of how these people always claim they said something completely different as soon as they get backlash
went from "if you have pocd you're a pedophile" to "but i just said pedophilia is wrong!" to "but i just said you shouldn't harm kids!"
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"okay sucks that someone in my community off themselves but maybe if they weren’t creating problematic things they could’ve prevented that."
Cop mentality
@skiftsnep
IM LITERALLY A TRANSGENDER MALE, HOMOSEXUAL, DEMISEXUAL, AND POLYAMORUS??? what is you talking about!!! 🗣️🗣️ okay sucks that someone in my community off themselves but maybe if they weren’t creating problematic things they could’ve prevented that. But also who knows! 1/2
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ARCHIVED VERSION of the MEGATHREAD by
@dionysiaca
on Anti-Shippers and Radfem Rhetoric
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dont mind me, im just doing a little thread just cause
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Not surprising to see y'all side with religious extremists and queerphobes.
“we need to protect a03, it’s a safe space for queer people” mind you this is the same site that won’t do a single thing about the rampant racism, antisemitism, and overall bigotry there under the excuse of “freedom of writing”
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It literally doesn't.
@Somedumbslime_
@orcatstra
I'm just learning that proship means "problematic shipping" not pro, as in, in favour of shipping, lol.
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the entire field of psychology: taboo fantasies are normal and healthy
fancops: well it must be just ONE weirdo who said that, surely? no i will not actually check, i have decided it must be so. I have also decided that everyone agrees with me. no i will not check if it's true.
@bidem0n
you took one weirdos fucked up take and took it as “so what im doing is justified!”. if you surround yourslef with freaks who enable your behavior that doesnt mean its right!
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Fancops: proshitters want to be oppressed sooo bad haha
The Human Rights Watch itself: anti-shipper rhetoric is dangerous and it's complete bullshit
Fancops: haha so funny
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Let's play "did an anti or a right wing dudebro write this tweet?"
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I hadn't noticed until now but on Thursday a certain VA DM'd me letting me know they checked the sources linked in a few of my threads and realized they've been too reactionary by condemning people over fictional content this VA finds uncomfortable.
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ACAB includes fandom cops, now and always
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"It starts fictional then goes into real life" is literally, word for word, radfem anti-porn rhetoric. "Porn is the theory, rape is the practice" is literally one of their slogans.
FYM "Well that's not what i meant" BITCH???? WHAT
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It's so sad to see more and more leftist accounts immediately fall for radfem kink critical rhetoric about how "liking x in fiction means you like it irl / normalizes it irl" when it comes to fictional underage.
For many it's a knee jerk reaction, but it doesn't make it right.
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"Based on the works of Gary Wilson"
when I say that teens in fandom spaces are falling for conservative (& radfem) anti-porn propaganda... this is what i mean
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Antis will act like imagining something is just as bad as doing it, but they sure don't want to examine the way they love to go into great detail about their constant extremely violent fantasies towards real people.
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What the actual fuck
Me when I see a proshipper online so I start roleplaying being a pedophile (??)
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What Do Your Taboo Sexual Fantasies Say About You?
"Take comfort in knowing that you’re NOT A FREAK, even if you like to get a lil’ freaky in your imagination."
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[ Psychology Today ]
Women's Sexual Fantasies – The Latest Scientific Research
"Women who have rape fantasies also tend to have more positive attitudes toward sex, high self-esteem, and more frequent consensual sexual fantasies."
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Antis with "radfems dni" in bio are funny. Buddy you are the radfem in your own dni.
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This, by the way, is what actual normalization is.
Not Normalization: "Warning: this fictional ship/content contains rape/incest/abuse! That said, enjoy."
Normalization: "This work does NOT contain rape/incest/abuse, because I Like It, and if u think otherwise ur a freak!"
it's like, for things that THEY enjoy, they refuse to recognize problematic, abusive, and other concerning aspects of ships, characters, and shows when problematic aspects ARE present, because they don't want to admit that they could ever enjoy such a thing.
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"Japanese people's obsession with incest and pedophilia needs to be studied" says guys about to reinvent scientific racism
>consumes jpn media
>slanders jpn people and be borderline racist
>continues watching media made by jpn people
>repeat
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couldn't make this shit up if i tried
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And now the person Jay Goldstein doxed is about to die. Jay Goldstein and Holly Meadow Disch caused the death of a disabled person over fiction.
Jay Goldstein and Holly Meadow Disch have a real person's blood on their hands.
I sure hope animation hopeful Jay Goldstein doesn’t get a bunch of tweets associated with his name (Jay Goldstein) about how he (Jay Goldstein) went out of his way to dox someone in the industry they want to work in. That would be pretty bad for Jay Goldstein.
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Psychology and sociology teacher talks about taboo fantasies.
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On rape fantasies. From "Sex, Explained", narrated by Janelle Monáe.
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TERFs coming out of the woodwork to defend antis with their lives
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Hundreds of thousands of people are currently claiming that a person must be bad for saying they watched and liked one of the most beloved and highly rated anime of all time.
Moral panic and how easily people on this site fall for it is scary as hell.
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[PDF] The Normality of Sexual Fantasies
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A must watch on "degenerate art"
Fun fact: nazis hated "degenerate art" so much that, instead of trying to hide it away, they would willingly expose more people to it... to dunk on it. 🤔
Who's Afraid of Modern Art: Vandalism, Video Games, and Fascism
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The amount of trans people I'm seeing happily follow and agree with radfem accounts is scary.
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From the first episode of "Sex, Explained", narrated by Janelle Monáe
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[ Psychology Today ]
" 'Sick' Secret Sexual Fantasies"
Article that explains the normality of fantasies some people think are "sick".
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What's with all the people suddenly saying that incest can never be consensual? Rape is nonconsensual. CSA is nonconsensual. Incest can involve those but not necessarily, therefore even if it's wrong it's not inherently nonconsensual.
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Adult anti happily admitting that they would abuse a real kid over fictional ships. They really are no different than conservatives.
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I'm so angry. I'm trying to not get carried away but... why do we always have to be the "better person" who can't even show how rightfully angry and distraught they are over actual harm, over a person's death??
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When I say that antis do not see us as human, that they want us dead and that cruelty is the point... I mean it.
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Sure is fun being a black person in fandom and seeing 43k people agree that they would prefer having a tattoo that lets me know they want me dead for not being white than a cringe but innocuous one about small fictional characters
"I'd rather be a nazi instead of a lolicon"
42.9k likes bro can we all be fr for a sec
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A perfect example of this behavior.
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"The eventually graduate to it" and they have literally no sources to back up that claim
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Huh.
Conservative account hears about fandom puriteens, calls them based.
🤔
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Remember when we had to constantly remind people that trans people can, sadly, sometimes be radfems because nobody believed it was a thing... and now every day I see a bunch of trans accounts with radfem in bio talking about how sex work bad, porn bad, and trans men are traitors?
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Lots of people on this website won't like to hear this but being a person of a certain race, ethnicity, nationality, culture or marginalization does not magically make you omniscent about everything about it, especially when it comes to niche subcultures in it.
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Why do I have certain sexual fantasies after being abused as a kid?
"You're not a sick person [for your rape fantasies]"
[TW: CSA mention]
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Is There a Double Standard When It Comes to Sexual Fantasies?
Feminist article, focuses specifically on the most taboo kind of fantasies, such as incest/underage incest, and how people tend to judge women way harder for having them.
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i swear I'll make a thread of these someday
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Antis are so vile
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@toydrill
OP's actions led to the death of a disabled SA survivor. Do not support him. He has blood on his hands.
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I've said this before elsewhere but I will say it again: we need to gradually stop referring to fancops as antis. They are fandom radfems. It's an accurate description and they can't try to change its meaning.
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Random anti pretends to be a CSA survivor's ex (an ex who had sexually assaulted him), doxes him, calls him being sexually assaulted "cute", sends a bunch of minors messages claiming that said survivor molested real kids (a lie, obviously)... all because... "it's funny"...
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The worst part of anti rhetoric is the dehumanization.
Not all antis are sociopaths who try to get their targets killed... but all antis dehumanize them.
"I would never do such a thing... but it's ok that someone else did. It's not a big deal, it was just a freak after all."
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I am once again reminding you lovely people to be careful who you follow/associate with; "fiction isn't reality" isn't that big of a hot take and therefore anyone can believe so. Someone isn't "safe" just because they believe something so obvious.
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@ijboltron
Yeah there are comedic scenes like that. But those are also in most other anime, including Dragonball and most of the other big popular ones. You can dislike them and criticize them as inappropriate without acting as if watching said anime makes someone a bad person.
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This is why social media should be 16+ at the very least
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That's exactly how everyone who shames women for dressing in a way they consider "childish" sound when they claim said women are trying to "attract pedos".
If looking at a woman gives you an erection, it is not her responsibility to manage that for you. How is this not simply understood. Your penis, your problem. Most of you have at least one hand
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Just a periodic reminder to anyone following me that if you're some right wing jerk who claims to want to protect Japanese media from censorship but whines every time a Japanese person has pronouns in bio or says they enjoy diversity in art, I actively hate you. Leave.
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i need to start making a thread of self-admitted radfem trans people who end up saying stuff they obviously learned from their transphobic friends like "ew men ew dicks you know DICKS the GROSS thing that mEN have!! nobody would LIKE that ew why do u LIKE that eww"
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When you're not into a certain kink, that kink may feel "gross" to you. You might try to come up with reasons why that feeling must be universally correct, and thus everyone who disagrees must also be be wrong and "gross" themself.
That's the feeling radfems want to exploit.
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*pretends to be shocked*
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Y'all keep posting out of context screenshots without having actually watched the anime, then you restrict replies so people can't debunk your bs. Here's the actual scene with context and all! 👇🏾
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(part 3 of the above video)
"Things that people fantasize [about] and find enriching for their sexuality should be a place of no judgement. I want to encourage you to not judge yourself"
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Here's more TERFs admitting they infiltrate fandom spaces /on purpose/ and avoid mentioning anything gender-related so non-transphobes will trust them and share their content/radfem takes.
Because they know many people can't tell something is radfem unless it mentions gender.
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Remember that not all taboo ship-related stuff is inherently "adults only". Minors can be proship, and some will ship taboo ships. As long as 1) they're not engaging with nsfw content, and 2) are aware that said relationship wouldn't be ok irl, there's nothing wrong with it.
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@neoopiure
Watching GoT but shaking my head during all the incest and noncon scenes so everyone knows i disagree
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Their account is currently locked and idk what they've been saying since that day, but I wanted to let people know they might be reflecting on what they said.
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@lenawithabox
Yes, but it very much was created specifically to mean that for "morally reprehensible" content. You don't tag a fluff fanfic as dead dove just because you want to make extra sure people read the tags on just how fluffy the fic is.
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Another rapist on the side of Ang's abusers! Shocking, I know.
no way a rapist is telling Ang to take responsibility for their actions over cartoon porn 😭
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Engaging in BDSM or fiction that contains potentially triggering topics can often help survivors heal, which is one reason why so many survivors are into that kind of thing.
It works similarly to the kinds of therapy that work best for PTSD.
[Thread by
@dionysiaca
]
This is similar to what many survivors already do when they consume/create "problematic" fiction.
And this type of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Prolonged Exposure, is the most recommended therapy for PTSD.
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allowing radfem sex-negative rhetoric to seep and take root into online leftist circles has been the worst mistake of the last decade. so much progress was undone.
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