Péter Szilágyi (karalabe.eth)
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Complexity is an often overlooked aspect of a system because usually someone else is paying the price for it, not the person creating it.
But don't be mistaken, someone *is* paying the price - whether money, time or mental capacity. They might not be willing/able to do forever.
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Spent the last 2 days in Barcelona at the Avalanche Summit and it was sooo pleasant to again feel the vibe of this industry we're building.
Shoutout to
@el33th4xor
for the invite and the Ava Labs team for chatting with me 2 days straight. Felt like the early days of Ethereum!
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I can't say what the solution is, but my 2c is to stop adding features and start culling, even at the expense of breaking things.
There are less and less people knowing and willing to piece together a broken network. And each change pushes more away. /FIN
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Did you know 1559 can potentially mess up
#Ethereum
mainnet in a super bad way if we missed something? You know what you can do to prevent that? Test the hell out of 1559 on Ropsten. It's ok to murder Ropsten! It's ok too murder Geth nodes on Ropsten. Go wild with it! 🔥
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The
#Ethereum
*chain* is 175GB as of today, which is enough to recreate *anything* that *ever* happened since genesis.
To validate a new block, you need the result of executing all previous blocks first - the head state. That's 130GB as of today.
That's all a node *needs*.
An Ethereum full archival node is 9TB. A
#bitcoin
node is 412GB.
Decentralisation is not a spectrum, it is a mission.
H/t
@deyonte_btc
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My previous tweets generated quite a bit of drama, so I'd like to clarify, that whether or not I'll be here long term, I'm not going to leave the Geth team and the ecosystem hanging on the eve of the Merge. Even if I have my issues, I don't want to take it out on Ethereum.
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As good as it feels that we're approaching The Merge, I must emphasize that
#Ethereum
is not going in a clean direction. Tangentially it's achieving results, but it's also piling complexity like there's no tomorrow.
If the protocol doesn't get slimmer, it's not going to make it.
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You know you've made it in life when Google adds an Easter-egg for you :) Congrats
#Ethereum
community, you've achieved something few could.
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Publishing my
#Avalanche
vulnerability report from 29th March, 2022 that could have been used to take the entire network down at no cost.
The issue was fixed way back, and with the latest Avalanche hard fork, all nodes run the patched software.
Njoy :)
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Thank you Avalanche.
Burning fees is great. Your friendly competition outburnt your 11 month network in 3 hours.
But don't worry, you just need to up your friendly competition on one of the key features of the
#Ethereum
protocol: usage ;P
Congrats to Ethereum on the launch of EIP-1559.
Burning fees is great isn’t it? Glad to see friendly competition catching on to one of the key features of the Avalanche protocol.
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Although I'm not a fan of the
@avalancheavax
marketing machine, the tech underlying it does exist. I remember when Ethereum launched and Bitcoiners were fuming that it's vaporware; and how draining it was. Wish the best to the Avax, beside the Ethereum and Bitcoin experiments.
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In
#Ethereum
's history, complexity never decreased. Every EIP is piling on top. Every major change (1559, merge, sharding, verkle, stateless, L2, etc) is one more nail.
I'm extremely frustrated when a research proposal says "everything's figured out, it's just engineering now".
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I don't know who made this, but holy crap, this is some magically awesome visualization!!!
#Ethereum
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I've been working in this space for over 8 years and imho played a relevant role in making it succeed.
Still, I would never sign an open letter to a government body proclaiming to be an expert, telling them how to legislate.
Please, have the humility not to be a know-it-all.
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There have been engineering attempts to reduce the complexity (module split in Erigon, responsibility split in The Merge). Yet there was never an attempt to reduce the protocol complexity.
We are already past the point of anyone having a full picture of the system. This is bad.
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You know what makes a dev feel good? Invite them to your conference! Not to speak, since that's more work (although if they want, even better!), rather just to be there and chat. To see their work appreciated. It won't dent your bottom line but will make their year.
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I feel the root cause is the disconnect between the research and the dev teams. The former has to "only" dream up elegant - standalone - ideas.
The latter needs to juggle every single idea that was ever introduced, whilst surgically expanding the dimensionality of the space.
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This is the pinnacle highlight of why we're afraid of crpyto precompiles:
The above code runs half the internet...
It was written by Google's cryptographers...
It was probably audited with infinite funding...
...and it was wrong.
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Rinkeby
#Ethereum
testnet successfully forked over to Constantinople! All signers, bootnodes, faucet online and working well. Clean split between new and non-upgraded nodes (please update!). 😎
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Oh my, we've been growing!
#Ethereum
nodes on
@googleearth
(green =
@golang
geth, orange =
@rustlang
parity, white = everything else).
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This is your periodic reminder that post-merge,
#Ethereum
execution clients will not guarantee the availability of all the chain history indefinitely.
Practically, nothing will change in the short term, but consider the invariant broken long term.
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Hey world! 👋
It feels odd that I have to tell you this, but blockchains aren't here to take your lunch. We don't want to replace the way you do you.
We want to extend what's possible and create new ways to do new things. We don't want to redo old stuff, we want to explore.
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Due to the extremely irresponsible way
@travisci
handled this situation, and their subsequent refusal to warn their users about potentially leaked secrets, we can only recommend everyone to immediately and indefinitely transfer away from Travis.
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FYI, deprecating Rinkeby does have a personal sting for me too. I spent an enormous amount of time monitoring and maintaining it. At some point I spend my last holiday night (from Italy) debugging Rinkeby via SSH on my phone. Still, it's time to clean up stuff.
#Ethereum
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The Merge will be the first Ethereum event where the Geth team will try to have a full presence under the same roof to celebrate (or hotfix 😜) It was annoying to miss Frontier, got a second chance now after 8 years.
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@kelseyhightower
"We urge you to [...] take an approach that protects the public interest and ensures technology is deployed in genuine service to the needs of ordinary citizens."
Wow, that's coming from someone working at Google. You left me speechless. Take a look in a mirror dude.
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Aaand our latest release is borked. 😕 Geth 1.10.22 contains a regression that causes the trie/state to go bad. Most probably it's one of the PRs we've merged towards the new storage model / online pruner. Trying to find and fix the issue.
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I've been pondering how to formulate what web3 is (for me):
Web3 is a rebellion against the lies of web2, against a co-opted internet, against people who build tech to abuse users instead of empowering them.
Web3 is a rebellion against Google and its world built on lies.
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I should start charging 0.15% on every transaction that goes through Geth... 🤔
I work in crypto because of the immense positive impact I believe it can have on the world, removing gatekeepers and increasing access to value and ownership.
I’m proud of the ways
@Uniswap
Labs has contributed to that effort and want to make sure we’re creating sustainable…
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Tried to get into the ETHAmsterdam hackathon to look around. Was told only hacker are allowed in. 🙈
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What is Web2?
Take something that already exists and rub some privacy violation on top. Then lobby the shit out of it.
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Japan, you amaze me. Was standing alone in the rain waiting for a taxi. A lady came and held her umbrella for me. Wanted to gift it to me so I don't get soaking wet. Never ever experienced such random kindness before. Thank you, whoever you were :)
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As with scalability, complexity also keeps trickling unseen up to the breaking point. At that time, it's already past the point of no return.
Complexity also has the nasty effect of causing cascading failures. Overload people too much, lose capacity, leading to even larger load.
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Apparently Nethermind and Besu stopped storing historical
#Ethereum
data and they want to standardise it so instead of a protocol violation it becomes *the* way to do it?!
This is an insanely irresponsible idea. 1/4
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@el33th4xor
I'm sorry our team whose code you use is unable to solve the lesser engineering problems. Unfortunately it seems we're just not good enough. Though then why use our code?
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Seriously,
@etherscan
is possibly one of the most critical components of
#Ethereum
. Thank you for doing this awesome work for years on end.
Etherscan homepage 🏠 gets a facelift.
Let us know what you think of the new design!
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It took me a long time to figure out that "this code is shitty" also entails the assumption that I am smarter than the one who wrote it.
If you accept that the other person is also smart, you'll ask "why is this code shitty"? Almost always there's a very good reason behind it.
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We've been saying it since Devcon IV. Either the state gets pruned, or you will end up with nobody running home nodes.
Everyone went crazy at the thought of state rent. Alexey almost got crucified for researching it. Well, now you're seeing the effect of no pruning.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ethereum cannot be decentralized if the stack is not decentralized...
Where is the dialogue on this?
69% of hosted nodes on the Ethereum Mainnet, with over 50% of that coming from Amazon Web Services (AWS), over 15% from Hetzner and 4.1% from OVH.
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The moment the
#Ethereum
rough-consensus governance gets taken over by plutocratic coin voting, you also have my resignation. I refuse to be a pawn of the highest bidder. You can maintain your own shit afterwards.
wow.
ETH Governance is happening. like, **now**.
in its 1st vote ever, the ETH community collectively voted to keep gas limit mostly unchanged (+0.5%)
21% (!!!) of the hashpower already collected EGLs, and many others are in the process of setting up
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In light of yesterday's disasters, decided against buying a new laptop and donated the amount to the
#TurkishEarthquake
relief efforts.
I need some input... lemme just start a flamewar :D
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Ever so often the question surfaces as to how much should core devs make. It is a subjective matter.
My take is that a dev having helped build
#Ethereum
shouldn't become a billionaire, but achieving financial independence is a legitimate ask.
Denying them that is an end-game.
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Shoutout to
@vdWijden
and
@parithosh_j
(among tens or hundreds more), you guys made today happen.✨
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The moment when everyone clones the EVM to leach away value from
#Ethereum
but then go all Pikachu when Ethereum's EVM keep evolving further :)
The EVM is made for Ethereum. Anyone using it should be aware of the risks involved in relying on stuff out of their control.
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Me: Oh hey, SpaceX is so awesome, can I invest?
Web2bro: No IPO, we're protecting you! Yo Google, want 10% for cheap?
Me: Oh hey, Ethereum seems awesome, can I invest?
Web2bro: You making 10.000x is a ponzi scheme, only we're allowed such profits!
#MerryChristmas2021
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Wrt
#Ethereum
gas limit, I'm against raising it because any adverse effect is dumped on the same 4 people that have been maintaining the network for the past 6 years.
If you want more gas, first bring a technical solution to make clients 10x faster. We'd be happy to implement it
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Ok, I'm going to assume the asshole position now. You knew *perfectly* well it's gonna blow up. You went ahead with it anyway. You were reckless beyond comprehension and deserve everything that gets thrown at you.
This was not a mistake or an error. This was blind hubris.
i’m sorry everyone. i’ve failed. thank you for the insane support today. i’m sick with grief
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My main takeaway of
@EFDevconnect
is that working remotely is nice, but without a frequent, in person social interaction within and between teams; it breaks down.
Ethereum needs to organize more interops and cross-team retreats.
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I realised that the 1559 burn is my absolute favourite mechanism in the
#Ethereum
EVM. It is the great equaliser.
Before 1559, miners had the privilege of tweaking gas limits and prices of transactions mined by themselves arbitrarily. Sure, they always carried an opportunity…
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Seeing fighter jets refueling mid air 20km from you starts to put things into an unpleasant perspective.
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Along these lines, the other realisation is why
#Ethereum
is king and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
I thought 1559 was stupid. But I went along since everyone else liked it, so I figured I must be the one missing something. They were right and I was wrong.
The…
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With Berlin behind us, EIP-2929 included, and Geth by default running snapshots (if you're not, do), I don't have any immediate objections to raising the gas limit to say 15M (let's not go crazy). Not saying to- or not to, just that I myself see no instathreat doing so.
#Ethereum
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Life in crypto: Today I've spent 7 hours discussing on Twitter with various people about web3, people who are skeptic, but willing to discuss.
At the end, someone just posted that web3 is 100% money grab. When highlighting how hard it is to respond to that, I got blocked.
Sigh.
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@rakyll
My current nails in the coffin are when large players fork our code (made and maintained by 5?) people and with an aggressive marketing get a valuation of $100B+.
But I can't get new people on the team because we can't afford what they're asking for. So that's my effed up world.
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Please stop saying this. Ethereum isn't slow because of Geth. You could 10x the gas limit and Geth would be perfectly happy.
Ethereum is slow because the state grows like crazy. Whether Geth or any other client, it's the same shit. You need to store that state somewhere.
@SolanaLegend
@jon_charb
This is not how it works. Unless the majority of the network adopts Firedancer (90%+), the network will still have to run at the speed of the current client. There are significantly more efficient clients than Geth, but the network still runs at the speed of Geth because it's…
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After 3 days of pressure from multiple projects,
@travisci
silently patched the issue on the 10th.
No analysis, no security report, no post mortem, not warning any of their users that their secrets might have been stolen. 3/4
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I am really looking forward to 4844, but we'll have our hands full with the UX horrors of crossing over L2s. Currently I have
#Ethereum
ETH and a bit of Optimism ETH, but to play on Farcaster, I need Base ETH and to mint the blob movie I need Zora Eth. Can the devs do something?!
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@el33th4xor
@VitalikButerin
If we were to swap out Ethereum's consensus right now to Ava, we couldn't make it one bit faster due to the limit being the EVM and disk growth.
Doing 1s blocks with Ava consensus would be akin to raising the gas limit 10x. We could easily do it. Until it blows up.
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You know why my voice is dominant? Because I've (along with the entire Geth team) been here for 6 years, keeping the lights on. That gotta be worth a bit of street cred.
Oh, and also because I don't mind telling someone they are full of shit. E.g. You
while
@peter_szilagyi
had been doing a fantastic job making everyone aware of his opinion on the gas limit
Peter's voice is the most dominant among all core devs - ofc he doesn't need EGL
core devs who disagree find EGL valuable as it gives them voice to reach the community
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You fuckers lied. You said you notified anyone affected. You didn't notify me, I was explicitly looking out for any heads up back in June.
We were aware of this data breach, alerted the authorities, our users, and have been fighting downstream attacks ever since. For more information on this breach, please see the original entry in our FAQ:
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There are certain lines you do not cross. Geth has been keeping the lights on at
#Ethereum
for a decade. A backhand suggestions that the devs can be "compromised" is a very nasty one. Do better.
If I wanted to attack a $280 billion dollar chain I'd focus on getting malicious code into a client that 84% of the network used. Maybe I'd start by compromising disgruntled devs 🤷♂️ Def not pointing fingers, just identifying a weakness.
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@Paralelni_polis
FYI, almost the entire Geth team is present :)
@gballet
is slacking off somewhere 3 degrees cooler :P
@Gary_Rong
unfortunately could not make it. Still, been a long time we've been all in the same place. Ropsten merge warranted a meetup :)
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Finally after multiple ultimatums from multiple projects
@travisci
posted this lame ass post hidden deep where nobody will read it:
Not even a single "thank you". Not acknowledgment of responsible disclosure. Not even admitting the gravity of it all. 4/4
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Wanted to publish this tomorrow, but might as well drop it today. Here's the Geth v1.9.17 post mortem for the partial chain split on
#Ethereum
mainnet today.
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I haven't coded in Solidity for 2 years now and needed to use some IDE yesterday for my "I'm The Chad" NFT.
I'm not a fan of .js, so skipped the usual suspects and landed at . Holy shit, it is insanely good. Very nice work everyone involved!
#Ethereum
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Today the
#Filecoin
network fell apart due to some dormant bug. Took the team about 4 hours to get the network back and running. Obviously will be screwy until enough nodes update and some people do get penalized. Nonetheless, that's an amazing turnaround time. Congrats!
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