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she/her Jaejoong, 2nd gen, nct 127, SVT, Jungkook, casual listener of everyone. I talk about horror films sometimes
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Stan Kim Jaejoong if you're normal and hate all the big K-pop companies equally 💛💛
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So Hybe bought Source Music and got rid of GFriend, they bought Pledis and got rid of Nuest and they bought vlive and they're getting rid of ... vlive. You want me to believe they're not one of the worst things that happened to k-pop when everything just goes there to die 🤦♀️🤦♀️
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It's cute that new k-pop fans think that Mnet favors Big 3 when it's a known fact that SM and YG are not on good terms with Mnet and it's always very clear which companies ARE on good terms with Mnet and it's not SM or YG 😅😅
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You people really think SM, JYP and YG were created and immediately became "the big 3". If anything, they all had it more difficult than any company that came after them, because there was no K-pop system or pre-existing K-pop fandom, let alone international one
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GFriend and Nuest both had a stable fanbase and they were loved in SK, there was no reason to disband them, but Hybe doesn't like older groups that aren't famous in the west, so here we are. I'm still mad that they used Nuest for the forced ,,Hybe family" thing 😬😬
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And Vlive was a universal thing that no one had a problem with, all companies seemed to co-exist on vlive for years. I guess Hybe is trying to make Weverse the new ,,universal thing" now?? 🤔🤔 I mean ... K-pop was always competitive, but this company is doing too much
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Who needs conspiracies?? HYBEs brainwashing strategy was actually simple, aim at kids who struggle to make friends AND older women who didn't get to be mean girls at school, give them an exeggerated struggle story, give them an "enemy" and superiority complex and you're done 🤪🤪
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I was going to delete, but the quotes are full of people who think that just because a Korean group doesn't chart in America, they don't deserve to exist. GFriend and Nuest were doing FINE and vlive was a perfectly functioning app used by everyone. Weverse is not. You all ++
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use the words capitalism, privilege and monopol when you want to
talk about big 3, but you would die for HYBE who is on its way to be even worse. You won't catch fans of SM artists worship a fucking company, I can promise you that
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Something about an extremely rich guy who made his career on mass buying, mass streaming, useless overprized merch and an extremely brainwashed, prejudiced and hateful fandom making a song about how much he hates capitalism, money, hatered, prejudice and greed is so funny 😂😂
“Slaves to capitalism, slaves to money slaves to hatred and prejudice slaves to YouTube, slaves to flexing selfishness and greed have gone off the rails…”
— Agust D in his new single ‘Haegum.’
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Point being, I'm not going to delete just because miserable people with no personal life got attached to A COMPANY
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It's also very telling how many people think that Korean artists don't deserve a career, unless they're under that one specific company. And then you say ,,Hybe did so much for SK and K-pop" Yeah, I can see that. You all hate these idols for no reason 😘😘
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The "if your 2nd gen faves were so good, they would be big in the US" take is getting on my nerves. Watch literally ANY Infinite, TVXQ, SNSD, SUJU, BB, 2NE1 or BAP live performance and tell me they didn't "make it" because they're not good enough. You can't. America will never ++
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Ok, I'm at work (because I actually do have a job), so I guess I'll mute this, it's getting scary 🫣🫣 Stan L'Arc en Ciel 💛💛
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They throw in some SM or YG artists, because it would be too obvious to ignore them completely, but pleeeease. And once again, most people stopped watching these awards forever ago, winning this doesn't even feel like a flex anymore, because EVERYONE knows how Mnet works
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Girl who stayed in her friend circle, didn't ask to be filmed, didn't ask to be touched and didn't ask for her clearly vulnerable moment to be uploaded on the internet is getting hated, discussed and diagnosed all over the internet and you want to tell me it's normal
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International K-pop fans hate on idols nonstop, make up the most disgusting rumors about them and then collectively laugh about it, spread every stupid lie they see in a fanwar without checking and then when someone dies they write think pieces about how South Korea has a problem
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@chartdata
@InactiveSha
@NCTsmtown_127
@BLACKPINK
@HITSDD
Both fandoms complaining about their companies is so funny and sad 🙃🙃
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REALLY push a K-pop group for what they are. The huge break happened because groups got more opportunities through social media, internet and streaming. And even the groups that made it big ... even after they changed A LOT about their music and image ... STILL aren't getting ++
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Aaaah, just in case, I'm not saying BTS didn't struggle or didn't work hard. I'm saying their story isn't all that different from most K-pop groups, it's just that THEIR story was heavily used as a brainwashing/marketing technique
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Being a K-pop stan in 2nd gen was THE BEST, because when the music/content dropped, I was fangirling and replaying the best moments for days before checking what other people think about it and tbh,people who didn't stan the group never thought much. Now every cb is surrounded ++
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People could just admit they hate Shindong because he's fat. The fact that he made a mistake a decade ago only allows them to make fun of his body, while still feeling "woke". Every other idol who made jokes about fat people is forgiven immediately, w/out apologizing, no matter++
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GFriend said they didn't even know they are disbanding and they literally re-grouped right after 🤨🤨
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I think THE ONLY groups that are genuinely irreplaceable (I'm really trying to be objective, not just naming my faves) are DBSK and BIGBANG. Because no one's even trying to come close to DBSK vocals anymore and it's pretty obvious no one will have that BIGBANG presence, so ...
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"Singers should be able to sing well" and "idols should sing live when the choreography allows them to" were never controversial takes ... until 4th gen arrived and K-pop got bigger in the US. You get attached to the people and their (often fake) achievements, personalities and++
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what a western artist with their popularity would be getting. Unless they release a song in English, preferably featuring western artist and written by the most mediocre American producers they could find
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Not even the biggest SKZ fan, but if K-pop fans want K-pop to be "accepted in the west" and sound/look exactly like western music, they should just leave and stan western artists 🤦♀️🤦♀️ The reason I originally got into K-pop (forever ago) was that I was SO BORED of "western pop"
kpop never gonna be accepted in the west if more groups like stray kids are starting to become the face of the genre
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"This applies to your faves too" yeah, it applies to all of K-pop, obviously and as long as they're keeping the money, keep renewing their contracts and don't tell their fans not to mass buy, I don't think they have any right to release songs about it, idk
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I'm really so grateful for all my 2nd gen reunions, even the ones I never fully stanned 💛💛 This is what I meant when I said all my 30+ year old faves sound and look better than ever
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SM unfortunatelly has the best and the most talented artists w/the best discographies and no amount of ,,big 3 privilege" tweets is going to change that, I really hate myself for sounding like a company stan. But seriously, having the best artists in EVERY k-pop gen is wild
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Jaejoong made a fucking fortune and a succesful solo career, especially in JP, despite the ban. He didn't really mention TVXQ for almost a decade and yet the first time he has the opportunity to interact w/idols (therefore talk about his idol days), everyone has a problem
@baekhyunlvr69
Jennifer has blanc et eclaire, tao and luhan have careers in China but here comes jaejoong to remind you for the 40th time this week he was in tvxq
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I love Jaejoong so much. He's so positive and friendly and supportive to everyone he meets. Despite all the bad things that happened in his life, he always chooses to only say the good things about people. He's sharing his random little hobbies w/us and minds his own business ++
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If K-pop stans were in it for the music and the talent (especially vocal talent) they would all stan 2nd gen, I'm not even being biased, it's an objective fact
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Call me bitter (which I am), but I hate when people who never ever tweeted or cared about Jaejoong or Junsu suddenly remember they exist everytime THEIR faves have a problem. Never even trying to know them or their music, denying their impact, but using them for your fights 🫣🫣
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Are VIPs the only fandom that's normal about their faves marriage/baby??
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The weird thing about current K-pop is that a group can have a perfectly succesful comeback, but it's going to be seen as a flop and disappointing if the company won't give them ads, because 90% of K-pop is moving in fake numbers. A group can sell out a world tour, but the ++
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You know what's crazy?? TVXQ as 5 had the best harmonies in k-pop, right?? And then JYJ only had 3 members and still had the best harmonies in k-pop and now we had Jaesu as a duo and they still have the best harmonies in k-pop
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Not just MX. Every other 3rd gen boygroup was so obviously "modelled after B.A.P" only for them to barely get any credit for it
B.A.P’s debut really had the industry shaking. The choreo, the raps, the visuals, the styling, the blonde hair, even their BUNNY MASCOT. Everything was just of a HIGH QUALITY. I also have a theory that starships early vision for MONSTA X was modelled after B.A.P
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Also, I'm genuinely looking for moots who don't hate any K-pop group and simply focus on the groups they like. I don't want to have many followers, I really just want less negativity on my tl, but it seems like everyone hates someone and it's tiring
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Idk who needs to hear it, but despite being banned in an era when social media, streaming and i-fans didn’t matter, Jaejoong seems MUCH happier now, has a succesful career and he’s so rich (he wasn’t born rich). And Junsu is literally a musical legend, hope it helps a little
"Are EXO-CBX Next?" — What Happens When An Artist Is Blacklisted In The K-Pop Industry
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I finally made a compilation that I'm going to use when people come at me w/the "K-pop has never been about vocals" nonsense 😉😉 Probably very biased, but what can I do
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It's the way people like to blame it all on knetz (who are awful, don't get me wrong), it's always "idols can no longer interact or have fun because of knetz blahblah" but somehow it was the huge wave of i-fans that put a stop to this, so think a little. Reflect 🤪🤪
actually i think i understand those hyper loyal 2nd gen stans now
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One of my many problematic k-pop opinions is that all the negative things people used to say about 2nd gen ... you know, the k-pop sterotypes like ... it's not about music, it all sounds the same, it's manufactured, everything is scripted, NO groups have a say in anything ++
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I definitely don't only listen to K-pop. But why do people only say this about K-pop?? Metal fans only listen to metal and Americans who like pop only listen to western pop. So many people are only into jazz or only classical music and no one finds it concerning
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Is this where I'm supposed to tell you to stan Kim Jaejoong??
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Mentally I'm still at JYJ singing ,,keep in mind that I love yoooou" and TVXQ responding with,,keep your head doooown" and Jaejoong being like ,,keep your head up and keep an open mind" and Junsu having an emotional breakdown on twt and getting jumped by the entirety of sm town
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So many of you like to brag about your faves struggle story and how they had to deal w/this and that, but the truth is YOU wouldn't stan that early, struggling version of them. You would be the hater they had to deal with and you would stan the more popular group
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The idea that groups should be over after 30 is wild, because all my 30+ year old faves sound better and look better than they did in their 20s. More confident, don't give a fuck about their company, everything is much more fun, you should want it for your faves and for yourself
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Been thinking about this video all day, because he really thought about the music, did his research about the moves, choreographed it like a pro, danced like a pro and like ... he wouldn't even know that he CAN dance if he wasn't randomly scouted for being pretty?? He was 18 ++
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K-pop is more manufactured than ever. It’s less and less about talent. "The dark side of K-pop" is thriving, since debuting children is the new normal (with fans support). I-fans can be the same or worse than K-fans nowadays. All of it is only going to get worse from now on 😘😘
what K-pop opinion would have your TL be like this?
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This is still so crazy, because he was so obviously the one with the biggest variety show potential, w/his lack of filter and the most random stories you can think of, like who else was supposed to be funny in that group if not Jaejoong??
Jaejoong not being allowed to do more variety shows during his time in dbsk cause he has to remain his mysterious persona. 😭😭😭 Even if he really wanted to. SM you're gonna rot in hell for this forever.
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If you don't like "old people" having K-pop stan accounts, you can simply not follow them, mute them, block them, do what you need to do. All these takes about how you should ONLY focus on family or career and absolutely nothing else after certain age are getting quite annoying++
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@vitaarieka
I guess making it in a country that absolutely refuses to consume anything that's not made by them or made specifically FOR them is kind of an achievement 😅😅 But why do we WANT that achievement is beyond me 😐😐
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I did it 🥳🥳It was hell, I had to delete so many beautiful songs to keep it short, but it's ok, I have the full 5 minutes long version 🤪🤪
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K-pop fans clearly WANT young idols. The three most popular girlgroups rn all have a member who debuted at 13-14. Last month HYBEs ceo said "the younger the better" and didn't receive any backlash. You can't blame it solely on the SK public, i-fans are the same. When K-pop ++
@nugupromoter
we've been begging companies to debut older idols, why do they still say this to girls this young...
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Yes, Cassies still "blaming SM" when half of SM ent IS openly on speaking terms w/either Jaejoong or Junsu is always funny. Yunho and Changmin are in SM, because they chose to be (several times) and they don't mention JYJ, because they don't want to to 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ This was ++
I know SMent is behind all of this yada yada yada spare me the BS but HoMin are adults very much capable of speaking up & sharing how they feel. How could they remain silent & not acknowledge that once upon a time, TVXQ had 5 members? Just really pains me.
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Obviously
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For the record, I’m not saying South Korea DOESN’T have a problem, I just don’t understand why i-fans have this superiority complex over knetz, when they act the same way and tweet the exact same things (sometimes worse if we wanted to be REALLY self aware here)
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how they went to Jeju for a weekend or that they've been bungee jumping and we never knew. They don't got out of their way to feed the shippers either. They keep certain things private which is rare in K-pop, so people immediately think they must hate each other 🫣🫣
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Sometimes I mindlessly agree with the ,,blahblah" from ,,blahblah" looks like Jaejoong tweets, but then I look at old pics and let's be serious, no visual from any boygroup ever got close to Jaejoong
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Girlgroup stans are wild, because a 13 year old child is old enough to debut, but a 24 year old woman was too young to date a man she clearly wanted to date
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If you told me in 2013 that 10 years later we'll have OT2s being mad that Jaejoong/Junsu are booked and busy, always releasing new music and always having concerts, while THEY have to beg SM to remember TVXQ exist and treat them fairly (which they should) I wouldn't believe you
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@mariani_ros
Even if they had all that, they wouldn't ger far with it if 1st and 2ns gen didn't exist. They would be starting from 0. They had a HUGE advantage, because K-pop was already known
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Most of us don't even care about fashion like that, but ever since designers started using k-pop idols, everyone is an expert, fashion shows are suddenly more important than albums and concerts and teenagers are DMing designers they never even heard of or cared about before 😂😂
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Because a few people decided that it's edgy to hate them for doing the same problematic things that 90% of k-pop groups did, made up some more and everyone went w/it. It's just a cover up anyway, you hate them, because they're 30+ and some of them aren't pretty enough for you
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Idols enlisting wouldn't be so scary if K-pop stans weren't so openly ageist. There's no reason why groups couldn't achieve even bigger things in their 30s, that's literally SO young. But because you act like idols existing in their 30s is embarassing, it feels like a deadline
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with negativity, because people talk about the things they hated more than the things they liked and everyone has an opinion, there's so much bandgwagon hate for certain groups and it just stays with you. For example I think Punch is one of 127s best title tracks, but everytime++
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Honestly, even if you don't stan (or don't even know) Jaejoong, you should watch the show. Because most shows and interviews are scripted, the host can do their research, but Jaejoong never knows who's coming, which makes the conversation so natural and fun
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They were literally blacklisted, you don't see them unless you search for them, what more do you want?? They acknowledge themselves as TVXQ only when someone brings it up, besides their biggest hits that people talk about happened as 5. No one talks to Jaejoong about Catch Me ++
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Do I have a selective memory or did we (as 2nd gen fans) NOT feel the need to disrespect the generation before them?? Like I really don't remember anyone trying to prove that HOT or Shinhwa were irrelevant and had no impact or whatever 😅😅 We liked them or ignored them 🤷♀️🤷♀️
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The fact that there was a 14 year old in every "monster rookie girlgroup" from last year did SO much damage that will never be undone. Idk why people refuse to see 13 year old girls as the children they are, but it's honestly fucked up
WATCH: YG's New Girl Group
#BABYMONSTER
Introduces 13-Year-Old Thai Member
#Chiquita
With New Performance Video
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I’m really happy that idols are now able to leave their companies AND stay in their group and have everyones full support, but it also means their fans will never get things like THIS, so is it really a win??
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In all seriousness, is there even an idol who apologized for their insensitive remarks about peoples bodies?? Because SD did and I'm starting to think he's the only one and yet the only one who's suffering consequences
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This is funny, because some of the poorest countries and people in the world are showing solidarity w/Palestine, but all the privileged ones (mine included) think their problems are too big to care about a genocide, instead of realizing that we're actually lucky af for being ++
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Bruno, Gaga, Nicki, Taylor all in their 30s and no one calls them acient, no one even thinks about their age or thinks it's time to quit, so the problem isn't the age, but K-pop fans stanning groups for the weirdest reasons or wanting to be the bully they can't be in real life
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Armys the only fandom stanning companies, CEOs and APPS 😂😂
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What lot of people don't get about Jaejoong is that he didn't hate being an idol or being in a group, he literally only had a problem with SM, which would be 100% valid NOW and it was even more understandable THEN
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how often they do it (ans they almost always do it more than once). And the only differences between all of them and Shindong is their body type. You want to make fun of the fat idol, because you're not woke or a good person, just call it what it is, really
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TVXQ vs JYJ really had to be the most dramatic split ever, because how tf are people still fighting?? Just support whatever members you still enjoy and move on, it’s been 13 years!!
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Only a few things can make me mad the way "Aaaaah, is that Kim Jaejoong?? I miss him so much" can. You don't have to miss him. Mind you, he's literally the most active "member" of all five of them 🤷♀️🤷♀️ Missing him is a YOU problem 🫣🫣
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I just think the fact that 10K+ people believe that artists should have an expiration date is sick. Idk why do you stan the groups you stan, but it’s clearly not for their talent or music
i still don’t understand how ***** ****** hasn’t disbanded, they’re well passed their expiration date
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I still don't understand why is "multis" even a thing in K-pop. I love music, I like pop culture, so I was ALWAYS able to enjoy multiple artists, even before K-pop, but no one called me "multi" for it, because it's literally NORMAL
do multis actually keep up with all the groups they stan like how do you have the time for that fren…
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it's all about fan-service and NOT the music, groups from certain companies being pushed ... I think it applies to 4th gen more than it applied to 2nd gen. With all the streaming strategies, choreos being made with Tiktok in mind, songs being shorter on purpose, media favoring ++
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I listen to it, I also remember the whole negative atmosphere around the comeback. I have no such memories for my Infinite comebacks at all, it's all just happy thoughts and nostalgia and appreciation. Fandoms are ruining their own memories for themselves, because do you really++
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30 years worth of Korean pop music and the first project you can sit through came out in 2023?? Sounds like you just don't like music very much, idk 😐😐
None of them bullshit ass ballads, no obnoxious unpleasant noise, just fab pop songwriting over sensible dance/house productions
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without being bitter or negative or stuck in the past. The way he could use his family history or the SM battle to be the victim, but he doesn't. Even back in his rebel era, he was shady in such a subtle way. Idk I just wish I could be more like Jaejoong, honestly
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I-fans stalk/harass idols who show up near them. Support children debuting, bully idols they don't like, always comment on their bodies, hate when idols express opinions or talk to idols they don't like. Hate idols over 30. But somehow STILL think they're better than K-netz 😂😂
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Stan twt didn't talk about Momoland for years, like I swear most 4th gen fans don't even know about them and the older fans either forgot or feel too guilty to remember!! It's always sad when groups disband, but why does everyone suddenly act like they were the biggest Momoland++
Brave girls and momoland gone in 24hrs.. we need to disband 6 different boy groups to restore the balance
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I just want K-pop stans to take responsibility 🙃🙃 You made all the girlgroup with minors mega famous and now we're here and we're stuck with it forever. A 12 year old leader is insane
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You know what?? Some Armys are making genuinely good points here that made me think about it a little differently, but most of you went with: "you stan flops" which ... I really don't care AND it's not a very anti-capitalist take, is it?? It's actually the opposite 😅😅
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think 5 years from now, you will play a random K-pop song and think about how much it flopped or what this other fandom or your own fandom was saying about it?? It's really so stupid
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And when I tell you it's 100% fans fault, because companies see the way you react when the rookie is older than 20. Don't get me started on the way you treat idols once they turn 30. Some self-awareness please 🙃🙃
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SM will end up empty just like YG 😂😂 Too bad for K-pop, because they had the most talented artists and produced the best music, but also Jaesu karma, so ... 👍👍
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