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it was a blast to team up with
@tarunchitra
on "The risks of LRTs"!
we present an "asset-backed" case study of yield-bearing instruments to frame the discussion around LRTs – hopefully, this juxtaposition is as helpful to you as it was to us!
💧🥞⚠️
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i'm super stoked to share a new piece written with
@drakefjustin
on the past, present, and future of PBS!
curious about the relationship between mev-boost, ePBS, and optimistic relaying? check it out ↓↓↓
ps. there are more cool figures in there :-)
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excited to share "Magnitude and direction of Lido attack vectors." the Lido debate always gets reduced to a false dichotomy of good vs. evil; this piece aims to paint a fuller picture
read 'til the end for a closing vignette – "A Simple Farm Life" ⇓🐮🧑🌾
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excited to publish some thoughts on "two-tiered" staking – a proposal from
@dankrad
presenting a hypothetical native liquid staking token design.
more questions than answers, but this has been top-of-mind for awhile so it seemed worth sharing!
🚰🥩🪙 ⤵️
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personal update – on october 21, i got my Ethereum address tattooed on my upper left forearm!
the red characters are "matches", i.e., have the same value as the one above or below. check out the paper for a probabilistic analysis of this design. 🖋️⚫🔴⤵️
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my validator just made it through the queue and published its first few attestations! happy to finally be solo-staking and amazed at the power consumer-grade hardware (just look at how tiny the 2TB drive is!!)
hardware/software for this setup in here ↧↧
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happy tuesday – excited to share "Unconditional inclusion lists" with
@nero_eth
based on extensive discussions with
@potuz1
&
@terencechain
!
we hone in on the key elements, propose a candidate design, and analyze potential alternatives.
⧇⧉⧈⤈⤈⤈
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a small christmas present 🎁 for cryptotwitter – we are ecstatic to share "Execution Tickets," an idea from
@drakefjustin
on a reimagined blockspace market!
dive into the design + implications here↓
👽🎟️
thanks for reading, and see you next year🎄🪩🎉
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very stoked to share a new inclusion list design!
@VitalikButerin
had the great idea of incorporating *deniability* to combat the free data availability problem and we have been iterating on this theme since.
read on for more stick figures! 𖨆𖨆𖨆 ↓↓↓
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a proposal to increase the `MAX_EFFECTIVE_BALANCE` written with
@fradamt
,
@adiasg
, and
@drakefjustin
!
we argue that a validator set contraction has positive implications for the roadmap, the current p2p layer, and the validators
📖 📝 ↓
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happy wednesday :-) sharing a short doc™ – "Inclusion lists: execution, consensus, & engine spec overview."
this doc tries to:
(i) convey the relative simplicity of the changes,
(ii) highlight the decision points of the design.
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thrilled to share a modern rendition of the "rollup-centric roadmap."
@ralexstokes
and i offer a values-driven view of Ethereum!
with an eye on the past and an honest assessment of the present, we look forward to the next hard fork and beyond.
🛣️🗺️🚙➪
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happy day-before-deneb/cancun to those who celebrate :)
a few days ago, during slot 8600500, i proposed my first block!
i built it locally because the value of the mev-boost bid was less than 0.05 ETH (my min-bid threshold). you can see the graffiti is "madewithlovebymike" ♥
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excited to share "Issuance Issues – Initial Issue" for some light™ easter weekend reading🥚🐰🥕
i changed my mind on issuance over the past few months and this article reflects the ideas that helped shape my understanding – hope it's useful!
▼🪙🍴🛣️🚪
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happy friday – thrilled to share "dr. changestuff or: how i learned to stop worrying and love mev-burn", with
@nero_eth
&
@drakefjustin
!
we explore the protocol benefits of mev-burn and clear up some common misconceptions.
no worries, just burn❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥 ▼
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grateful for the opportunity to team up with mr. timing games™ himself,
@casparschwa
, to bring you “The Persistence of Timing Games” :-)
this post aims to establish a common understanding of the effects and potential mitigations.
⏰⏰⏰↡↡↡
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yesterday's optimistic relay outage caused some confusion around ePBS. these topics are near and dear to my heart, so i wanted to get this out ASAP to help demystify the situation.
"Consider the ePBS" 🦞🤖🐮🐛💵
(you only really need to read the tldr)
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friday thoughts – "A set-theoretic view of Ethereum coteries", which takes a layered look at decentralization (yes, i did find the word "coterie" in a thesaurus :-)
if you're a fan of notational abuse & elaborate venn diagrams, this one is for u ⦾⦿⧂⤦
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new phone background ❤️🔥📲🎆
By popular demand, an updated roadmap diagram for 2023!
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excited to share this post outlining the Payload-timeliness committee, a new potential ePBS design!
written with
@fradamt
and based on extensive discussions with
@potuz1
and
@terencechain
:-)
this one is for the fork-choice fans 📖 ⇩ ⇩ ⇩
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new article about slashing in Ethereum! ⚔️🪙
@barnabemonnot
and i deep dive the scaling properties of the 4 penalties levied against slashed validators. we propose two modifications to help de-risk consolidation under EIP-7251 (increasing the MAXEB).
📖🛠️↓
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supporting in-protocol validator consolidation is a must-have feature in EIP-7251 (increasing the MAX_EFFECTIVE_BALANCE).
@fradamt
,
@mkalinin2
, and i wrote up a doc to answer some common questions and explain how it all fits together!
👤+👤 = 👥
↯↯↯
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happy friday :-) it was a pleasure to team up with
@MaxResnick1
to take a first shot at sketching out a concurrent block proposer mechanism for Ethereum!
we explore censorship resistance definitions, proposer boost, splitting attacks, and more 🛂⚡🔀
⤵
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post-EthCC article about relay evolution and ePBS! we make the bull case for enshrinement while being pragmatic about how the relay market could develop. also included is a new payment mechanism from
@casparschwa
and
@drakefjustin
Merci d’avoir lu 🇫🇷📖↓
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i hereby publicly commit to getting "7251" and/or "7547" tattooed on my body if the Prague/Electra fork contains both/either! ♾
🖊️7️⃣2️⃣5️⃣1️⃣
🖊️7️⃣5️⃣4️⃣7️⃣
watching Cancun/Deneb last week was inspiring; nothing compares to ethereum's core devs & community!
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it was a pleasure to work with
@gakonst
to put together this piece and present some of the nitty-gritty details of Ethereum's fork-choice rule! if you are curious about how latency can impact consensus, check it out 📖⬇️
NEW
@paradigm
Research!
Motivated by the recent unbundling attacks against MEV searchers, I teamed up with the EF's
@mikeneuder
to investigate the interplay between `mev-boost` & Ethereum's PoS consensus, and enumerate some of the possible paths forward.
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we just got the malicious proposer slashed –
this test shows the conflicting signatures and constructs the slashing object
thanks to
@metachris
, potuz (prysm team),
@tbenr
and
@terencechain
for helping with this !!
Thanks to:
-
@punk3155
and
@bbbb
for flagging this
-
@drakefjustin
for spearheading the warroom
-
@metachris
and
@mmrosum
for authoring the patch
-
@mikeneuder
,
@hasufl
,
@alphamonad
, and so many others for jumping on to triage and resolve this issue
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(censorship) resistance is ~not~ futile! we explore out-of-protocol CR mechanisms. an in-protocol solution is still the gold standard, but given the recent rise in builder censorship, it may we worth considering interim tactics.
live long and prosper 🖖⤸
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a few new high-level ePBS diagrams came out of ethcc! the "heart diagram" and "traffic light matrix" are presented in my talk!
check it out if you are curious :-)
thanks
@tzhen
for pushing for big-picture thinking
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@evan_van_ness
this type of fake news & fearmongering is incredibly damaging. i hope you remove this tweet.
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from
@metachris
and i – mini post-mortem regarding the increase in missed slots immediately following the Shapella hard-fork. take a peek if you are interested :-)
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"Bid cancellations considered harmful" out now on !
@soispoke
and i collaborated with
@metachris
to explore bid cancellations. if you are curious about timing and builder strategies in `mev-boost` block auctions, check it out ↓
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excited to share a new piece from
@fradamt
and i – "Equivocation attacks in mev-boost and ePBS."
inspired by the recent unbundling attack, we explore the more general form of double-signing attacks and discuss a potential fix we call "headlock".
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happy friday-before-st-pattys🇮🇪!
it's also 18 months to the day since The Merge. to celebrate, check out "The Case for ILECTRA," which argues for the candidacy of EIP-7547 (inclusion lists) in the Electra/Prague hard fork!
hope you're feeling lucky 🍀▼
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the discussion around enshrined Proposer-Builder Separation (ePBS) continues to evolve. i wrote a short doc presenting my view of the space (others may differ – caveat emptor)!
the open qs presented in section 3 are the crux of the discourse IMO.
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happy to share an FAQ doc on EIP-7251, the proposal to increase the `MAX_EFFECTIVE_BALANCE`, written with
@fradamt
@dapplion
@mkalinin2
! we try to clear up some of the confusion around the intent of the original proposal ↓ 📓🖊️
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happy monday! we have inclusion list breakout room
#2
in 1 hour and 1 minute :-)
below is the tentative agenda.
details ->
stream ->
zoom link in the github issue. see you soon!
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it was such a pleasure to help
@TrustlessState
host
@sreeramkannan
and
@teddyknox
on bankless last week! i learned a ton and got to watch the pros in action 📽️🎙️
listen in for the latest on eigenlayer ⤵️⤵️⤵️
What’s in store for
@Eigenlayer
in 2024?
@sreeramkannan
and
@teddyknox
give us the alpha:
- LST deposits
- EigenDA
- Liquid Restaking Tokens
- Future AVS networks
@TrustlessState
is joined by technical cohost
@mikeneuder
!
Listen! 👇👇
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very happy to share that the
@ultrasoundmoney
relay launched optimistic relaying on March 17. this has been a big push with
@AlphaMonad
and
@drakefjustin
; i am thankful to be working alongside them!! see our announcement & initial data analysis ↓
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we did this for u
@GwartyGwart
<3
incredible to hang and chat with jon, hasu, and chris :-) this was my first ever pod and it was way harder than expected – you all make it look too easy!
thanks for having me on 🎙️🎥
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(1/12) a quick thread about my first impressions with the noir language from
@aztecnetwork
. overall, i have loved experimenting with it and writing provable & verifiable code is awesome! see for the language documentation.
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IMO censorship resistance is the most important and unique property of Ethereum. EIP-7547 aims to keep it that way by enshrining inclusion lists into the protocol!
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got my noir implementation of SHA256 working!! check it out: .
i used a test vector of "abc" : SHA256("abc") = 0xba7816bf8f01cfea414140de5dae2223b00361a396177a9cb410ff61f20015ad
which you can confirm yourself:
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it's also worth remembering what a precarious situation we are in: . the builder market is obviously not in a stable equilibrium; a single censoring builder produced ~50% of all mev-boost blocks last week.
@nero_eth
's is great.
I'd like to share an update on the recent events that led to the temporary shutdown of Titan Builder.
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special thanks to
@fradamt
&
@barnabemonnot
for constant feedback! thanks
@VitalikButerin
@DavideCrapis
@nero_eth
@jacobykaufmann
@domothy
@dankrad
@_JonahB_
@EthDreamer
@ConorMcMenamin9
@0xQuintus
@r_krasiuk
@jon_charb
and more for extensive discussions – it's a team sport <3
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also using the
@beaconcha_in
mobile app to monitor my validator and machine performance! h/t to
@Butta_eth
and the team for the awesome integration and great UX :-)
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context from today's AllCoreDevs:
for Prague/Electra:
- EIP-7251 (MAX_EFFECTIVE_BALANCE) -> "Included"
- EIP-7547 (Inclusion Lists) -> "Considered for Inclusion"
we will continue trying to get 7547 over the line – so grateful to be working with many great folks on these EIPs!
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i know all eyes are on deneb/cancun today, but we are still hammering away at an EIP-7547 (inclusion lists) PoC spec. see latest →
inclusion lists allow validators to express preferences over their block space while outsourcing their block production!
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also h/t to
@MikeIppolito_
for the latest season of Bell Curve on LSTs,
@jon_charb
for discussions and writings,
@IsdrsP
&
@hasufl
for their thought leadership, and
@arixoneth
for the recent "Enshrined LST" piece – all great resources that helped shape my understanding. ty :-)
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thanks to the many folks who helped review and discuss these topics:
@r_krasiuk
@Rjected
@barnabemonnot
@fradamt
@_julianma
@soispoke
@ralexstokes
@icebearhww
@drakefjustin
@VitalikButerin
&
@mkalinin2
!
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these ideas were shaped through countless interactions with the individuals (far too many to list) that make up the Ethereum and broader crypto communities, which drives home one of the main points: it's all about the people.
thanks for reading!
ethereum is first and foremost a cultural project, we just happen to use software for the leverage
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this proposal comes bundled with:
1. a minimal spec pr diff –
2. a security analysis –
3. a full spec change pr with some pyspec tests –
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just got my bankless premium subscription!! this is probably a bit overdue given how often i listen in to the show, but better late than never. love the work you guys do!
@TrustlessState
@RyanSAdams
@BanklessHQ
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i put together a list of MEV infrastructure links at .
this is inspired by
@domothy
's pbs links: , and adds some relevant git repos and a few other misc talks/posts i've stumbled across.
sharing in case anyone finds it useful!
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if you only read one paragraph, please read this one. it contains the essence of the article in answer to FAQ
#5
. saving the best for last :-)
many thanks to
@drakefjustin
,
@dapplion
,
@_julianma
,
@soispoke
,
@nero_eth
, &
@TimBeiko
for comments on the draft!!
have a nice weekend!
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this work extends discussions with
@drakefjustin
@barnabemonnot
@jon_charb
@hasufl
@tkstanczak
@metachris
@nero_eth
@terencechain
@potuz1
@dankrad
@dannyryan
@fradamt
and many more – so grateful to be thinking about this problem with them!
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if you are wondering who this guy in an orange jumpsuit is, there is a link at the top of the doc. as
@gossipprotocol
would say...
"if ur confused it’s working ✨" :-)
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special thanks to
@VitalikButerin
@TimBeiko
@barnabemonnot
@_skozin
@sachayve
@IsdrsP
@jon_charb
@nero_eth
@drakefjustin
@soispoke
@ralexstokes
, &
@dannyryan
for extensive discussions and thorough reviews!!
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we cited a few "alignment orthogonal" thought leaders – PTAL :-)
@GwartyGwart
@0xBalloonLover
@BeckyFromHR
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New paper with
@dmoroz
@rithvikra0
and Dr. David C. Parkes! A first crack at formalizing liquidity provision strategies in Uniswap v3.
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i am most stoked about the title, "Time, slots, and the ordering of events in Ethereum Proof-of-Stake", which (a) pays homage to Leslie Lamport's legendary article from 1978 and (b) accurately reflects the contents of the article.
hope you enjoy :-)
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for digging into the nitty gritty of the consensus spec, i always turn to
@benjaminion_xyz
's ETH2 book and
@VitalikButerin
's annotated spec. highly recommended reading :-) additional thanks to
@terencechain
@mkalinin2
@dapplion
@ralexstokes
&
@IsdrsP
for helpful discussions!
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as always, this is a team effort! thanks to
@potuz1
@terencechain
@fradamt
@icebearhww
@dannyryan
@TimBeiko
@r_krasiuk
@Rjected
@ashekhirin
@dapplion
@mkalinin2
, &
@lightclients
for continued invaluable discussions and reviews!!
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thanks
@sreeramkannan
:-) i have also been thinking about how to use
@eigenlayer
to help bridge the gap between mev-boost and epbs (along the lines of )! think there is something there ?
Headlock - A great idea on how to protect the Ethereum out-of-protocol PBS protocol from equivocation attacks by
@fradamt
and
@mikeneuder
:
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it was incredible to jam on these ideas with
@jon_charb
@hasufl
@tkstanczak
@metachris
, &
@nero_eth
. i also learned loads from chatting with so many folks at EthCC! it's great to see such interest in PBS :-)
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eth2 book ->
annotated spec ->
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many thanks to
@dapplion
,
@robsaltini
,
@sandJohnson
, and
@barnabemonnot
for discussions on this intricate topic! :)
for more details on EIP-7251, see this gist for the related work:
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with inclusion lists, validators have their cake (contribute to the censorship resistance of Ethereum), and eat it too (get MEV).
if you care about this, speak out! we are jamming in the "inclusion lists" channel in the ETH R&D discord. all feedback/comments are most welcome :D
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ty to
@barnabemonnot
@ralexstokes
@jacobykaufmann
@drakefjustin
@terencechain
@jon_charb
@AestusRelay
for comments on the doc!! additional thanks to all the community members helping push this thing :-)
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many thanks to
@winnyeth
for both the inspiration to go for the tattoo and the artist recommendation of Yang at inkandwater in brooklyn! check out her amazing work –
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it was incredible to meet and jam with so many folks in paris! slides for my other talks are available .
the past few days have been hanging in vienna and discussing PBS further! more ideas coming soon™
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many thanks, as always, to the thoughtful folks:
@Data_Always
@TimBeiko
@drakefjustin
@barnabemonnot
@soispoke
@ralexstokes
@VitalikButerin
@dannyryan
@IsdrsP
@DavideCrapis
@nero_eth
&
@dankrad
whose comments and discussions shaped this writing!!
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the doc ~is not~ the final form of the spec. instead, it sketches the points where the specs will be modified and demonstrates the relative scope of those changes. lots of reworking may occur, especially as we iron out the discussions in the "key design considerations" section.
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ty to
@nero_eth
for his amazing work highlighting builder censorship –
!
additional thanks to
@bertcmiller
&
@0xQuintus
for their writing on CR in mev-boost and
@sreeramkannan
&
@0xkydo
for exploring mev-boost+/++. so cool to compare these approaches :-)
New dashboard online - 🙌
May it shed light onto the extent of censorship and guide us towards implementing practical solutions for enshrining a strong form of censorship resistance.
More info 👇
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thanks bron
Unbelievable tech. S/o to all the incredible men & women
@intel
. STEM edu more important now than it’s ever been!!
#striveforgreatness
🚀
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over the past 2 months i have had the opportunity to contribute to the
@ErigonEth
project! specifically, i work with
@GiulioRebuffo
who is leading the charge on embedding a native consensus layer client into Erigon.
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i unironically think this is an absolute banger of a beat
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@jon_charb
@colludingnode
@uriklarman
that doc covers the out-of-protocol options, the in-protocol IL proposal () also doesn't require ePBS :-)
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elon u r my hero.
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i recently finished "The Mythical Man Month" by Fred Brooks and i can't recommend it enough! it is a collection of his essays about software engineering from the 70s and 80s and it blew my mind how relevant the content still is today. for example ...
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also, i want this doc to stay relatively up to date! let me know if i missed anything and/or if it needs a refresh at any point.
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@tarunchitra
i meant “absurdly good”! i now realize that tweet makes it sound like absurd in a bad way lol. i loved the example of privacy-preserving biometric authentication especially :-) great content as always!!
@AnnaRRose
@tarunchitra
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@VelvetMilkman
@nero_eth
it means that (1) the builder submitted the same block to both relays, and (2) the validator called getPayload() on both relays. just shows the relays that have the most shared builder/validator pool. anything additional
@nero_eth
?
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ps. ive been a huge bankless fan for a long time – over 10k minutes in 2022 :-)
such a great christmas gift to be on the show! ty again for the invite
@BanklessHQ
🎄🎁
takeaways from my year in review from spotify:
a) i probably listened to too much
@Still_Woozy
(top 0.005% fan lol)
b) i probably listened to too much music in general (130949/525600 ~=25% of the year)
c) i really like
@BanklessHQ
(177 hours ~=0.49 hrs per day)
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