@mattwridley
Matt Ridley
9 months
Is it possible to believe all of the following? - Russia was the aggressor. - Zelensky heroically defended his country and unexpectedly held on to Kyiv and much else. - But the war cannot be "won" by Ukraine so a negotiated peace is needed. - Zelensky needs to accept that. -
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@DavidDeutschOxf
David Deutsch
9 months
@mattwridley They're logically consistent but some are false. One can see which by applying them to Churchill 1940. What would he have "needed to accept"? (This BTW is why there's a growing insistence that Churchill was bad—It erases distinctions between right and wrong, agency and despair.)
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@mattwridley
Matt Ridley
9 months
@DavidDeutschOxf Good point.
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@LeoKearse
Leo Kearse - on YouTube & touring
9 months
@mattwridley The only one I'd take issue with is the idea that the war cannot be won by Ukraine. Russia has exhausted itself to grab a pretty dismal amount of land, and it's petering out (see pic). Ukraine is now retaking some areas like Toretsk. There's the likelihood of retaking swathes of
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@War4theWest
War for the West
9 months
@mattwridley Let me stop you at point 1. "Belief" in Russia being the aggressor isn't a problem for those who oppose this war. The question you want to slide by, as many others do, is what provoked Russia to action? True lunatics want to pretend Russia is just feral and evil and their war
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@sorianojohnd
John David Soriano
9 months
@mattwridley Trump and Vance reacted with controlled anger, which was righteous, justified and salutary for all to see. The slaughter could have been easily avoided. Those who prevented such avoidance should be held in contempt and consigned to the ash heap of history, joining Biden there.
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@c4chaos
𝕏C4Chaos𝕏
9 months
@mattwridley correction: Trump and Vance behaved APPROPRIATELY. even Biden lost his temper with Zelensky back in 2022. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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@Fox_Claire
Claire Fox
9 months
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@AndreasShrugged
Andreas Backhaus
9 months
@mattwridley Ask yourself if Russia is winning the war right now. With the right information, you will figure out it isn't and it won't, short of extremely dumb western politics. Then if Russia can't win the war either, why put the pressure to make peace on Ukraine when you could also put it
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@bunny_lingus
Brunhylde Lingus 💚🤍💜🇬🇧🇮🇱
9 months
@mattwridley Does Zelenskyy "need to accept" that hundreds and thousands of abducted Ukrainian children have been adopted by new Russian parents and dispersed throughout the vast country? Would the UK accept the loss of so many of its children to a hostile power? Should Ukraine accept
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@rpotter_9
Robert Potter
9 months
@mattwridley I’d suggest that point four is incorrect. Zel’s national security policy isn’t to retake all of the territory. Rather the focus is on a security guarantee that is strong enough to ensure his country isn’t attacked again. Russia is fighting that and Trump trusts Putin’s word. That
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@BlackTomThePyr8
Tom Czerniawski
9 months
@mattwridley Everyone seems to forget who actually caused that war. It was Vicky Nuland showing up with cookies and five billion Soros-bucks. It was one of those 'colour revolutions' they're so known for, and even still gloat about on their websites: https://t.co/NvaJY2mgXh
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@dr_duchesne
Dr. Ricardo Duchesne
9 months
@mattwridley Yes, if you only care for consistency rather than historical accuracy, otherwise I would rather rely on the work of John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs than on what some general said on CNN.
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@TheSimonEvans
simon evans
9 months
@mattwridley I seem to be managing.
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@xaviercolas
Xavier Colás
9 months
@mattwridley The war can be lost by Russia, the same way they lost against Afghanistan or USA against Vietnam. It is an invasion, so it does not matter if you want it or not. "It is not liberal to want invasion" sounds magical thinking. You can not say "ok, im tired, I dont want to be
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@ArmandDAngour
Armand D'Angour
9 months
@mattwridley Does he 'need' to accept it? “If this long island story of ours is to end at last, let it end only when each of us lies choking in his own blood upon the ground”.  (Winston Churchill, 1940).
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@TS_Church
TS Church CMO OSINT Industries
9 months
@mattwridley Any peace deal needs to 1) return the children Russia took, 2) allow any Ukrainians to choose whether to live in occupied territories or to leave, with their property, to western Ukraine. (There are 3.5m at the moment). 3) obv return pows, 4) provide security for Ukraine that
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@worstall
Tim Worstall
9 months
@mattwridley I'd add one more. Putin won't accept an end that means "he's lost". Because autocrats don't for the reason that those that do rapidly become ex-autocrats hanging from a petrol station. Which rather boxes in the potential solutions.
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@riotwomennn
RiotWomenn
9 months
@mattwridley 2018 Republicans still a little integrity and bravery
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@Pravonapadenie
Полковник РВСН
9 months
@mattwridley No one in Ukraine wants war. They want it to end as soon as possible — but capitulating to Russia won't bring peace. As a Russian, I can assure you of that. Also, Ukraine doesn't have to win, only Russia has to lose. And it's not going to take much longer at this rate.
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@timothy_stanley
Tim Stanley
9 months
@mattwridley This is unfashionably sane.
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@BillyBostickson
Billy Bostickson 🏴👁&👁 🆓
9 months
@mattwridley We should also not ignore inconvenient facts: How & why Zelensky won the elections, based on promises to the ethnic Russians in East Ukraine, which he broke. Role of the USA & UK in Ukraine since WW2 & since 2010 in terms of subversion. Russian concerns about NATO expansion.
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@JChimirie66677
Jim Chimirie 🇬🇧🎗
9 months
@mattwridley Yes, it's possible to believe all of those things - except the part where Ukraine "cannot win" and should accept a negotiated peace. Russia was clearly the aggressor, and Zelensky's leadership in defending Ukraine was heroic. European nations do bear responsibility for years of
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@LoftusSteve
Steve Loftus
9 months
@mattwridley Yes, my position too.
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@WalkerMarcus
Marcus Walker
9 months
@mattwridley It depends what “ending the war” means.
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@clim8resistance
Ben Pile
9 months
@mattwridley More or less. Some of them editorialise where there could be realism.
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@omnologos
Valerius Ander (MM) - Omnologos
9 months
@mattwridley Trump and Vance behaved just fine
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@Copernicus2013
Igor Shatz
9 months
@mattwridley As long as “negotiated peace” isn’t a euphemism for capitulation which is how the current administration is using the term
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@tomosman
Tom Osman 🐦‍⬛
9 months
@mattwridley Add in a bullet about NATO expansion playing a part too and i'd say that is a good assessment.
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@BradPorter_
Brad Porter
9 months
@mattwridley It’s also possible to believe Ukraine needs someone other that Putin to guarantee their security. And that without guarantees, they have to keep fighting even if that means defeat. Worth remembering that George Washington was badly losing the war for Independence.
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@choppen5
Charles Oppenheimer
9 months
@mattwridley Seems so. I agree with all those points.
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@smithbarryc
Barry C Smith
9 months
@mattwridley Sure, but way forward is the issue. One sided ceasefire with no security guarantees while you agree a minerals deal and are asked to think better of Putin is not it. Add that to the list and I’m with you
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@feulf
Federico Ulfo
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@thomaspower
Thomas Power
9 months
@mattwridley Go further back in history to German Unification, Russia and NATO ask Grok
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@chrisabruce
Chris Bruce
9 months
@mattwridley - I can believe that Putin has never honored a peace deal and won't without threat of force. - I can believe that many Americans participating in the commentary on Zelenskyy/Ukraine can't even point Ukraine out on a map.
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@TonyNames
Tony
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@adryenn
Adryenn Ashley
9 months
@mattwridley I’m sure many people on the left do.
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