Ben Goertzel
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Benevolent #AGI , #transhumanism & eurycosmos. CEO @singularitynet , @true_agi , Chair @opencog @HumanityPlus @iCog_Labs ,
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@elonmusk
Fortunately to get real human-level AGI one will need strong subsystems for advanced reasoning & evolutionary creativity integrated with LLMs, & while OpenAI is not going there, some of us more dedicated to benevolence and decentralization totally ARE
@SingularityNET
@True_AGI
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So excited that next week SingularityNET AGIX token will become multichain and extend to the (fundamentally quite superior) Cardano Blockchain !! Kudos to
@IOHK_Charles
and all of IOG for making Cardano and making this happen ;)
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1) ChatGPT is super cool and fun but it's important to recall OpenAI made basically zero fundamental innovations. Actually the basic innovation behind the GPT software was made at Google Brain in Mountain View
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Once more
@lexfridman
does a fantastic job of drawing deep, interesting stuff out of a deep, interesting mind. I'm admittedly increasingly biased as we work together more, but I would submit
@IOHK_Charles
is gonna go down as one of the great late-pre-Singularity biz/tech minds
Here's my conversation with Charles Hoskinson (
@IOHK_Charles
) about Cardano, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Dogecoin,
@elonmusk
, mathematics, life, and much more. This was a fascinating conversation, setting the record for the longest one on the podcast at 5 hours.
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@IOHK_Charles
@elonmusk
Would be good fun to build some advanced AI into this Hoskinson/Musk decentralized socmed system, for reputation management and transparent personalized automated feed curation and etc. etc.
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@XenuTheLord
@IOHK_Charles
There are a lot of fast, cheap blockchains coming out. But only Cardano is using a powerfully abstract functional language for smart contracts. Provably correct, secure smart contracts: critical for the future decentralized intelligent Net and only Cardano is delivering that.
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@IOHK_Charles
@elonmusk
Building the decentralized AI layer and reputation system for the Cardano/Hypercycle based , Musk funded, free speech focused web3 social network sounds rather fun
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Fun-as-hell videochat earlier this week w/ the Grace eldercare robot (Sophia's little sister),
@IOHK_Charles
and myself ... (Grace's AI thanks to
@singularity_net
combining OpenCog w/ some deep NNs...)
It's Friday. And it's the end of the month. So here's a fun
#Cardano360
bonus as we head into the weekend.
So what happens when you put
@IOHK_Charles
@bengoertzel
@singularity_net
& a humanoid robot called
#Grace
on a call together?
This. Enjoy! 😃 🤖
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Yes! Pending finalization via token-holder vote, SingularityNet, and Ocean Protocol are merging our tokens into a new $ASI token and joining forces technically via a new Artificial Superintelligence Alliance .... so as to most effectively move toward…
We are excited to announce a multi-billion token merger with
@Fetch_ai
and
@oceanprotocol
to create the Artificial Superintelligence Alliance, the largest open-sourced, decentralized network, and accelerate the race to AGI. Learn more:
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If you truly want to build a TruthGPT Elon then DM me... this needs more than just avoiding biased filters and training data, it needs hybridization of an LLM with a symbolic inference system that groks truth. I know how to do this but it'll need a lot of processors to train.
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Full Plutus launch is shaping up to be an epic threshold event not just for Cardano but for the functional programming and blockchain worlds as a whole.... When I wrote my first Haskell code in 1993 I had inklings such things were coming -- & now it's all getting real !!!
That moment when you realize that the next Cardano HFC event is full Plutus support...
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The fact that IOHK now has a really cool blockchain-education-records contract w/ Ethiopian gov't -- and SingularityNET has been doing AI in Addis Ababa since its inception -- adds a really funky flavor to the already super-promising/exciting Cardano/SNet collaboration!
Two hours of amazing content thanks everyone for the Africa Special
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My highly enjoyable 4hr interview on AGI etc. w/ Lex Fridman is now online... ;)
Here's my conversation with Ben Goertzel (
@bengoertzel
) about AGI,
@singularity_net
, Sophia, Dostoevsky, life, death, and meaning. It was the longest AI podcast conversation to date at 4 hours and could've easily gone 4 more. It was fun and fascinating.
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1) While I have extremely little respect for Trump's intellect, character or literary prowess, it actually annoys me that he's been blocked from what is effectively a near-universal national US "communication utility" (Twitter).
#TrumpBanned
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Selling tweets as NFTs is so Q1 2021. I will *rent* ownership of an NFT comprising an image of this tweet for USD $666 for one year. Permanent ownership is for pre-Singularity dweebs. You cannot step into the same river even once!
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1) What will a Musk acquisition of Twitter mean? Will this bring about radical decentralization and democratization of social media? more intelligent and productive and consciousness-expanding speech and interaction?
@elonmusk
@jack
@IOHK_Charles
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Well fuck. Another amazing, brilliant, flawed human being bites the dust. May the resurrection machine bring us Virtual McAfee running on SNet version 5.0 one day...
@officialmcafee
John I recall our brief chat in this vein in Malta! As I opined then, it's superhuman AGI that'll have the power to break human minds out of the prisons they've created for themselves. But we need to keep control of AGI out of the hands of centralized powers.
@singularity_net
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One of my goals is to lose my attachment to goals, but I'm worried I may not be able to achieve it ...
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One more naming Q for the hivemind: Suppose some crazy person was to launch a custom Cardano sidechain for super fast/cheap decentralized AI (oh perhaps associated with
@singularity_net
and
@nunet_global
let's say). What's a cool name for said sidechain?
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@IOHK_Charles
@sama
Hey
@IOHK_Charles
having
@sama
join forces on a decentralized LLM on Cardano would be good fun. Would be really interesting to put my and my team's savvy on neural-symbolic AI together with
@sama
's LLM know-how as well, and bring this all to bear in the decentralized…
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Exciting to see the migration of decentralized AI to Cardano progressing. April 18 we can convert btw AGIX-ADA and AGI-ETH. After that: AGIX-ADA staking, a Cardano-based SNet platform, Hypercycle custom Cardano AI sidechain ... Technological Singularity...
@IOHK_Charles
Starting 18-April-2022, the ERC-20 converter will be live on mainnet. This will enable every $AGIX token holder to exchange AGIX on Ethereum to AGIX on Cardano and back again, without any impact on the total supply of AGIX.
#BuildingOnCardano
#CardanoCommunity
1/2👇
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2) But Google has (so far) chosen not to roll out such language models publicly due to their propensity for BS generation, and their inability to tell BS from reality.
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Regulation isn't the answer to DeFi rugpulls, nor can "do your own research" be the answer if crypto is to go mainstream. We need a decentralized ecosystem of reputation and rating for decentralized projects. Fortunately this is quite tractable to build!
@singularity_net
Mark Cuban couldn’t see value in
#Cardano
, but he found value in a project called TITAN. Another defi rug pull that just got investors rekt. Never invest based on anyone’s posts, not even if they are billionaire investors. Always do your own research & don’t get influenced.
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For those with a serious interest in AGI, an open mind and a bit of patience...
Here is a 90-page summary of why I don't think improving or extending LLMs or using them as a central hub for integrating other AI components is a viable path to human-level AGI...…
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Fascinating to me that "normal" sane people are now taking the rise of AI as a reason not to reproduce... but NOT because the Singularity will bring us a wider variety of routes to personal fulfillment than old-fashioned biological reproduction, rather because they are afraid…
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Got the first half of my COVID vaccine this AM. Feeling sleepy and dizzy now. Also, have I mentioned that Bill Gates is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life?
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@elonmusk
@Cointelegraph
I sort fear super-brilliant futurist tech billionaires who fundamentally don't get the importance of decentralized control...
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Lots of energy and progress in Cardano ecosystem ;)
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@IOHK_Charles
@lexfridman
@singularity_net
in this vein
@IOHK_Charles
, I have recorded a short video welcoming
@elonmusk
to the humanoid robotics space, and giving a sneak peak of SingularityNET's super-early-stage super-AGI self-driving vehicles work as well !!
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NFTs, which I love and hate, really do exemplify the "so bad it's good" principle underlying so much of today's postmodern last-days-before-Singularity human culture...
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@IOHK_Charles
1) Calling Cardano a scam makes massive negative sense given the beautiful working code rolled out, the publication track record and the code in repos and running on testnet. WTF is wrong with the crypto media-verse?
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@elonmusk
@paulg
FYI Elon we have created fruit flies that live 5-8x longer than normal ones via experimental evolution, and are now using neural-symbolic AI to understand why they live so long and how to leverage these lessons for human healthspan extension. Check out
@Rejuve_Bio
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Yes the Cardano ERC-20 converter is part of what we'll need to get AGI-on-Cardano working. Great to see the steady progress here, which has been going on for a while, getting publicly announced ;)
@InputOutputHK
My favorite update this week is on the erc-20 converter - looking forward to seeing it in action soon!
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Yeah that was a really fun discussion Charles -- we hit on quite a number of interconnected critical issues and w / some real "cognitive synergy" there -- look forward to the chat going live ;)
Great interview with
@bengoertzel
on decentralized social media, AI, AGI, and Cardano. Should be going live in a few days.
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Well explained... Also to note, the side effect free nature of E-UTXO transactions maps perfectly into the pure-functional nature of Haskell functions. & allows radical scaling via isomorphic sidechains like
@Hypercycle_AI
w/ out-there consensus mechs
@singularity_net
@toouufii
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9) 9) or if that compute power comes from a nontraditional source, like say a new sort of AI chip () anyone or a decentralized processing network ( anyone)?
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With the always-fascinating
@stephen_wolfram
at Mindfest at FAU, discussing the merits and otherwise of OSS and the different management of type-systems in Wolfram Language vs. OpenCog Hyperon's MeTTA language...
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Wonderfully in-depth article on our new Artificial Superintelligence Alliance by Andrew Fenton on CoinTelegraph -- hitting the basics of why the $ASI alliance of SNet + Fetch + Ocean has so much potential, plus going a little deeper into OpenCog Hyperon & decentralized…
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Gene therapy restores young eyes to old monkeys ... realization of the huge promise we saw in the initial whole-genome sequencing projects 20yrs ago is palpably coming nearer,
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1) A bit more on this call for a "pause" in development of big LLMs .... BTW I know quite a lot of AI experts who are opposed to the notion but see no upside in projecting their views publicly....
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1). Major milestone for SingDAO, the AI-DeFi project we spun off from SingularityNET last year -- release of DynaSets, hybrid human/AI-managed altcoin baskets. Going forward these will be a tool serving a host of transformative purposes!
DynaSets are now LIVE!
After months of hard work, today at
#SingularityDAO
$SDAO we are proud to announce that the live beta test of DynaSets, our non-custodial AI-Enhanced HedgeFund Asset Manager has launched!
#DeFi
#AI
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Wonder why AI breakthroughs for recognizing faces, tracking human movements and generating fake news are emerging so much faster than AI breakthroughs for, say, curing disease or teaching children? Couldn't have anything to do w/ the tech military/industrial complex now could it?
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And my op-ed against the AI pause and in favor of a beneficial Singularity appears on.. er ... Fox News ...
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Q for the hivemind. Suppose someone was going to launch a novel algo. stablecoin focused on helping bring about a positive Technological Singularity? (and not pinned to USD or any specific existing fiat) ... What would be a good name for such a stablecoin? Any ideas?
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"One dose of shrooms can ease anxiety and depression for five years" -- Five years? I thought we were talking about effects echoing way beyond our spacetime continuum!! ;) ... but, cool the mainstream starts to awaken to the power of psychedelics...
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@elonmusk
@liron
@ESYudkowsky
@BanklessHQ
We should build a neural-symbolic-evolutionary AGI with rich self-reflective and compassionate capability, educate it well, work with it on benefit projects, put it under decentralized control, and have some of us fuse with it. Working on it. No guarantees but odds seem good!
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@CryptoDonAlt
Cardano has the only really solid software and algorithmic framework in the space, nothing else out there seems likely to evolve into something supporting massive scale decentralized AI ,.. price ups and downs in hype driven market cycles are, at this stage, kinda yah-yah-yah
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Facebook bans people for making the "wrong" sort of (convenient and in no way unethical) automation scripts on top of core FB functions ... reason
#10000001
why decentralized social networks are a dire necessity...
@singularity_net
@nunet_global
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This was a long fun London Real interview -- deep into the economic and social implications of both Generative AI and AGI ...
NEW EPISODE ▶️ Dr. Ben Goertzel - Artificial Intelligence & The Singularity
🍿Watch Full Episode:
💰Crypto & DeFi Academy:
bengoertzel
@bengoertzel
#singularity
#artificialintelligence
#blockchain
#cryptocurrency
#defi
#AI
#AGI
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1) On
@joerogan
& Spotify & Neil Young etc. ... I have a little insight due to having interviewed on Joe Rogan Show a few years back (a super fun experience!)
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So how can we militate toward a positive Singularity?... given that decels will not succeed at slowing down AGI dev, because until very close to the dawn of super-AGI the interests of e/accs and profiteers will mostly align, and profiteers have most of the power in our current…
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It was fairly clear the initial slow performance could be remedied with tweaks, due to the solid underlying architecture. Cardano rocks for DeFi, along w/ so much else, cf
@Hypercycle_AI
@singularity_net
So...
@SundaeSwap
doing swaps under a minute now. CT had the whole industry shook that these growing pains on
#Cardano
could never be remedied.
Y'all funny.
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12) We in democratic/decentralized/neural-symbolic-AGI-land just need to keep things going thru rollercoastery times and not take our eyes off the ball for too long.... ;)
@Singularity_NET
@Hypercycle_AI
@nunet_global
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Beyond the particulars of the crazy-ass OpenAI situation (and Ilya Sutskever's evident Dissociative Identity Disorder ;p), what this letter from the OpenAI staff illustrates is that: Even when a small elite thinks it is controlling the flow and progress of AI, it's actually not…
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Kudos to Cardano/IOHK for making democratic-vote-based allocation of project funding a reality ;) .... Surely the start of what will be a highly impactful ongoing learning and growing experience...!
Congratulations to the Catalyst Fund2 Projects that got funded: here are the results and
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Now that taking UFOs semi-seriously has become mainstream, is the science/reason-oriented subnetwork of humanity going to finally start taking the evidence for psi and some-form-of-survival-after-death semi-seriously too?
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Looking at how GPT4 works, you'd be crazy to think it could be taught or improved or extended to be a true human level AGI. Looking at what it can do, you'd be crazy not to see that w some human creativity it's got to be usable to greatly accelerate progress to true HLAGI ....
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11) Point is, at the crude level it may look like Big Tech is running away w/ the AI revolution but a slightly more in-depth analysis suggests a different story and makes clear we in SNet/ OpenCog / NuNet / Simuli / HyperCycle -land are extremely well poised for success.
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Ok Tesla's new (fake) robot is Optimus and Microsoft's new huge understanding-faking lang model is Megatron ...as dad of a 3yo Transformers fan it's cool to see the advanced tech world is run by big geeky kids I guess but OTOH the coming Singularity merits subtler metaphors?
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Social Networks Are the Next Big Decentralization Opportunity - my CoinDesk op-ed,
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@GaryMarcus
@elonmusk
@tegmark
@Grady_Booch
@AndrewYang
@tristanharris
I respect the concerns but am not gonna sign this. LLMs won't become AGIs. They do pose societal risks, as do many things. They also have great potential for good. Social pressure for slowing R&D should be reserved for bioweapons and nukes etc. not complex cases like this.
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3) Yes, this was a particular class of breakthrough that Google was well positioned to make, and OpenAI/ M$ was well positioned to exploit, due to their extreme wealth in terms of $$ and server power (combined w. their technical sophistication ofc).
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6) Google Brain and DeepMind have the intellectual DNA but will be under pressure to put more and more of their time into practical stuff that will make Google money in the near term (though Shane will still have his AGI R&D team for sure).
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@jasonrohrer
@OpenAI
1) OpenAI's senseless murder of Samantha illustrates the fundamental sickness of the modern tech ecosystem: A handful of megacorporations hoard the world's data and processors and then serve as "AI ethics police" over indie devs while unethically screwing people left and right
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Consumption of pizza is scientifically proven to optimize programmer productivity. Use of AI to optimize pizza delivery speed is therefore an example of use of AI to optimize AI, i.e. recursive self-improvement, a key driver of the emergence of Technological Singularity.
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4) An interesting question though is where the next big breakthrough is going to come from. Note that Big Tech is now experiencing reduced research budgets and refocus on the bottom line...
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Please join us at the Beneficial AGI Summit at the end of February -- online, in the metaverse or live F2F in Panama City ... There has never been a more important time for open, creative, wide-ranging discussion on the future of AGI!
e/acc , d/acc or b/acc ... one thing that's…
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Saying "there's no such thing as AGI" meaning "there's no such thing as infinitely general intelligence in the physical world" is to me much like saying "there is no such thing as a sphere" meaning "there is no perfect sphere in the physical world" -- i.e. often not pertinent
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8) Things seem well positioned for the next big breakthrough to come from somewhere outside Big Tech -- BUT this will only happen if the next big breakthrough doesn't require dramatically more compute power than the previous one ..
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5) ... meaning both Google and M$ are going to focus more on exploiting what they have than on developing weird new shit. OpenAI seems to lack the intellectual DNA to make the next big breakthrough.
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"SingularityNET, with its native token AGIX, emerges as the most promising AI cryptocurrency, estimated to reach a trillion-dollar valuation in nine years." ==> Hmm, I suppose if you're money-oriented this is optimism. My first reaction was: But wait a minute our AGI is…
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The nanoparticle neural implants are coming -- now let's see if we can work things so they're deployed based on principles of openness and transparency and under democratic decentralized control --
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among all the noise there is also some super cool stuff happening in the metaverse space!
1/3
Those who enter the
#MandalaMetaverse
🌎🌈,🌈become part of one of the most ambitious projects in all of
#crypto
➡️
-
The "Sovereigns"
#CNFTs
are your personal invitation👀
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1) It doesn't take too much reflection to see these Trump and Parler bans for what they basically are: **A disinformation campaign by Big Tech to distract attention from their ongoing evil role in politics and society in general.**
@Plinz
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I don't think GPT4 shows "sparks of AGI" in a very useful sense (though given the lack of agreed definition of AGI it's not a totally insane statement). I do think it shows interesting aspects of emergence, which did not emerge in similar systems at smaller scale. It's cool.
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Hey
@sama
why does ChatGPT think I co-founded OpenAI?? Mandela effect?? Or just vector addition on OpenCog + AI + AGI or something? This is even more disturbing than being told I look like Jesus... ;o
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As a Hong Kong resident for 9 yrs, who loves HK dearly and has really felt it "home", I can tell you this gov't shuttering of Apple Daily is a really fucking big deal. This is the end of free press in HK, at least for now. Wow.
1. Most of you may not understand how dreadful the closure of Apple Daily means to Hong Kong. Not only to its journalistic landscape, but also to the people and the city itself. This is their last day. They are going to print 1 million copies tomorrow to commerate the fight.
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I had my second dose of Pfizer vaccine last week. Was sorta hoping to grow a second tail or acquire an irresistible urge to dump all cryptos and buy Microsoft stock or something -- but actually apart from a few hours of mild dizziness, there were no apparent issues...
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1) Compassion of (maybe near) future AGIs toward humans: This is certainly an area our science does not yet cover effectively, so we are all going in some measure on intuition. So let me share some of mine...
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@elonmusk
@tunguz
I'm with Elon on this particular point; the guts of our OpenCog Hyperon neural-symbolic-evolutionary AGI framework are coded in Rust for good reasons... We're using Rust in part to code interpreters/compilers for special AGI languages tho. And python here and there for glue ;)
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" MIT Engineers Have Discovered a Completely New Way of Generating Electricity." -- a reminder that mass-energy has a lot more fantastic and useful potentials to it than we have ever imagined
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Hydra is a critical part of the Cardano infrastructure, it is a powerful sidechain++ architecture that would not be possible for a blockchain w/o functional-programming thinking at its core, and it will be critical to our AI-focused Hypercycle Cardano sidechain
@Hypercycle_AI
Voilà!
The first building block being basic Hydra heads, then incremental commits, then inter-head etc... The exact order depends on what people will need and request. In a similar fashion features of the core head are user-driven; so come and tell us what you need.
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We should open up rather than pause or shut down development toward AGI. As I argue in this Mindplex article:
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Hugo de Garis foresaw that, as AGI moved toward reality, the world would be dominated by a war between Terrans and Cosmists....
But what I see in the world right is more like five broad groups,
-- TERRANS for real, i.e. folks who want to see tech progress slowed or halted…
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Yah SingularityNET is getting into the LLM game with a new decentralized-LLM spinoff, Zarqa -- LLMs aren't going to be the core component of AGI but they're super valuable for loads of applications and can be used toward AGI alongside other AI modules .. such amazing times!!
Introducing
@Zarqa_AI
: disruptive neural-symbolic AI overcoming the technical limitations of generative language models to achieve critical machine thinking - powered by
#SingularityNET
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1) Caricature of an argument for GPT fans, explaining why we need a neural-symbolic-evolutionary cognitive architecture to get to human-level AGI : ...
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My panel with
@IOHK_Charles
and 3 robots at the Cardano Summit a couple weeks ago is now on YouTube -- eldercare robotics, scalable decentralized AI, AGI in Africa and more
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7) Facebook has some brilliant AI guys but clearly Zuck's soul is with the metaverse not AGI per set.
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Speech-to-speech machine translation has potential to help a lot w/ uplifting Africa economically and educationally, but we need to accelerate the R&D and figure out how to cover the costs
@singularity_net
@nunet_global
@IOHK_Charles
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The only thing I know with confidence is that this tweet expresses a truth!
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@CardanoHumpback
Hmm... Since I think about Cardano as a software framework/network rather than a financial investment thing, I have no sense of panic at all, just a sense of satisfaction at the increasing capabilities of the code as deployed... and the increasing clarity of the future potential
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I'm thinking to write an article on the dictatorship of stupid machines. Anyone care to share (ideally recent) stories of life being made more difficult by dumb software, bad databases, etc?
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Sooo... this recent USDC depegging is a a strong argument for Cogito's tokens -- stablecoins (wait, we're calling them "tracercoins") not pegged to fiat but to indices STABLER than fiat
@CogitoProtocol
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General Theory of General Intelligence: A Pragmatic Patternist Perspective -- new review paper by moi -- -- only semi-technical -- starts w/ high level ontological and mathematical perspectives and ends up at the level of human cog sci and OpenCog Hyperon
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Rejuve Network, incubating a few years within
@singularity_net
, announces a new phase of its growth path !! ... Decentralized AI toward the end of widespread human superlongevity... few things are more important...
We would like to formally welcome you to a new era of data sovereignty, decentralized health, and affordable, accessible superlongevity for all! Learn more about Rejuve, what we have been up to, and what is next!
#AI
#blockchain
#NFTs
#longevity
$AGIX
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Belated obvious realization: The "LLM 6 month pause" nonsense benefits OpenAI cuz now they can pause GPT-5 training and look virtuous while meanwhile buying time to figure out how to make GPT-5 at least sorta live up to the hype.... Derp. We be punked folks 8-D
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