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The Presumption Podcast is now on all podcast platforms!
High-profile criminal defense attorney & media personality
@azarilaw
and acclaimed criminal trial lawyer
@lawyergriffin
co-host weekly episodes providing listeners with in-depth analysis of riveting cases and issues.
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“No matter what your opinion of Alex, everyone deserves a fair trial.”
@lawyergriffin
We chatted about
#AlexMurdaugh
’s
#MotionForNewTrial
re
#JuryTampering
by
#ClerkBeckyHill
. Here’s everything you need to know 👇🏽
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Reppin’
@CrimeCon
. Thank you for attending. We had a blast unpacking
#BryanKohberger
’s defense
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
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Our first ep drops tomorrow. Woohoo!!
Learn more about us and the mission of the podcast. And maybe a little about the
#MurdaughTrial
. Subscribe anywhere you listen to podcasts and to our YouTube channel. We come to you in audio and video even if we have a bad hair day 😉
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Ignore the tripe. Screw the hype!!
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: the real story behind
#AlexMurdaugh
and
#Buster
’s jail call on next week’s episode. Drops Tuesday July 18.
Buster Murdaugh tells dad Alex he's on ritzy Hilton Head Island via
@MailOnline
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#ClerkBeckyHill
book deal was made during the trial. She’s not just an elected employee but an extension of the court.
#AlexMurdaugh
Yeah. Something about an elected employee writing a book and calling it "an almost spiritual memoir" is gross and seems it should be prohibited. But it's SC. And Murdaugh🙄.
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New episode 🚨: why is Idaho hiding the
#DNA
ball in
#Kohberger
? We talk about some of the latest filings followed by a very informative conversation with
@CeCeLMoore
about
#IGG
and its role. Listen, watch and subscribe. via
@YouTube
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You won’t want to miss tomorrow’s episode.
@azarilaw
and
@lawyergriffin
unpack the
#Kohberger
#IGG
#DNA
followed by a spec it special intv with
@CeCeLMoore
. Subscribe and listen on all podcast platforms and watch on YouTube
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A great lawyer Dean Strang once said: “The state is supposed to start every case swimming upstream. And the strong current against which the state is supposed to be swimming is the presumption of innocence.”
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
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On next week’s episode live from
@CrimeCon
our hosts
@azarilaw
and
@lawyergriffin
defend
#BryanKohberger
: Did he do it? Can they prove it?
We’re joined for Q&A by
@BrianEntin
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Watch
@lawyergriffin
and defense team presser on
#AlexMurdaugh
presser tomorrow. Additional outlets will be posted.
If you want to watch the
#AlexMurdaugh
presser live, try . I will post additional outlets.
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Brand new episode with our first and best guest
@FrEdwardBeck
drops tomorrow. We talk presumption of guilt/innocence in court + church. Also
#Vallow
and
#Masterson
. Subscribe on all podcast platforms and on YouTube to listen and watch.
@mattfondiler
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
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Congratulations to our
@lawyergriffin
, and
@HarpootlianSC
& their stellar team of fine lawyers on
#AlexMurdaugh
’s universal plea deal which includes 101 counts of financial crime charges and narcotics charges.
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🚨🚨 we will be
@CrimeCon
. Attend
@lawyergriffin
and
#DickHarpootlian
’s
#Murdaugh
presentation and join Jim and
@azarilaw
for a live podcast recording on
#Idaho4
#BryanKohberger
+ all your Qs on the crime headline stories. See ya’ll there.
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“Many suspect the killings were drug related” says
@lawyergriffin
to
@marthamaccallum
in response to what’s ahead in the
#AlexMurdaugh
case. “Alex has been cooperating” with the feds. “Hopefully something will pop loose.” “Alex knows more than he’s telling, I hear that a lot”
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@lawyergriffin
following
#AlexMurdaugh
’s sentencing today. 20 yrs concurrent sentences + 7yrs consecutive for a total of 27 yrs. Per defense counsel, with time credits
#Murdaugh
would be about 75 yo when released, assuming his murder conviction and life sentences are set aside.
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Great piece on
@lawyergriffin
and
@HarpootlianSC
‘s
@CrimeCon
panel with
@EvaPilgrim
, especially on the issue of why a great defense lawyer would fight for justice despite no pay.
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We chatted w/
@KerriRawson
about the journey of a serial killer’s family member; what it’s Iike being
#BTK
’s daughter; and
#RexHeuermann
. Episode dropped today. Subscribe, star, review and listen.
@mattfondiler
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
Watch here 👇🏽
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Just recently
@azarilaw
spoke with
@lawyergriffin
on our pod on the issue of violation of
#AlexMurdaugh
’s 1st Am resulting from a ban against speaking to media. We’re thrilled
@ACLU
is now involved 💙
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Tomorrow’s episode is
#idaho4
galore! All the latest +
@Markomaralaw
joins us to talk death penalty in
#BryanKohberger
’s case. The man has defended 12 DP cases with 0 on the row. Let’s go 💪🏽
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Hey ya’ll. Thanks for the kind feedback. If you like what we do please subscribe on all platforms and on YouTube (both) . And please rate and leave a nice review. Thank you, Sara, Jim & Matt
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High profile criminal trial attorney and
@NewsNation
legal analyst
@azarilaw
and acclaimed defense attorney
@lawyergriffin
will host a live podcast with Q&A by
@BrianEntin
@CrimeCon
: Fri 9/22 6:40pm
“Did he do it? Can they prove it? The defense of
#Briankohberger
” Join us!
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“Why is
@lawyergriffin
breaking prison rules to promote his client, where’s the accountability?” Q on our YouTube.
A: No rule was broken and every person even if convicted of a crime has a 1st amendment right. Upholding that right carries praise, not accountability.
#Murdaugh
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“A people eager to prejudge guilt as opposed to innocence are a people ripe and ready to become a despot’s “willing executioners.” A.E. Saman
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
@mattfondiler
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On today’s episode
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
discuss the ethics of
#BeckyHill
’s book followed by an informative interview with Criminal Chief
#MackJenkins
about the federal prosecutions of fentanyl. Subscribe, listen & watch.
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The presumption of innocence is not just a legal concept. In commonplace terms, it rests on that generosity of spirit which assumes the best, not the worst, of the stranger.
~Kingman Brewster, Jr.~
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Plea deal reached in
#AlexMurdaugh
’s financial crimes cases.
@lawyergriffin
spotted diligently reviewing the plea agreement.
Alex Murdaugh's attorney
@LawyerGriffin
is reviewing the details of the plea agreement right now.
#MurdaughHearing
. No idea yet whether it is a plea on all 101 of the charges Murdaugh is facing ... or any other details. Stay tuned.
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On this week’s
@ThePresumption
episode
@lawyergriffin
and I chat with the man who was front & center in the
#AlexMurdaugh
trial, the great
#JoeMcCullough
. From pro DUI tips to a wild case involving prosecutorial misconduct and a media leak, and his representation of jurors, we…
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We are collecting questions ya’ll have about the work of a criminal defense attorney.
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
will be doing an episode on the different hats they wear, the challenges they face and the upside to the job. Please DM us here or tweet below.
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The absence of evidence is just as much evidence as is the presence of evidence. It often matters when it comes to items that state should have but don’t have, destroyed, discarded, failed to collect etc.
#Idaho4
#BrianKohberger
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Uber fun episode drops in a few hours! Jimmy is in the guest seat as Sara’s favorite Griffin 😉,
@jhopegriffin
joins as co-host. We explore some of Jim’s wildest cases: treasure hunters, cat killers & a reverse sting in a sex scandal.
@azarilaw
@mattfondiler
@lawyergriffin
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According to Murdaugh defense — clerk of court Rebecca Hill told a juror: “that everything Mr. Murdaugh has said has been lies.”
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Tune in listen and watch our brand new episode tomorrow with
@azarilaw
,
@lawyergriffin
@mattfondiler
and the great
@Markomaralaw
Tomorrow on
@ThePresumption
we’re joined by George Zimmerman’s lawyer
@Markomaralaw
who digs into what the death penalty phase (and jury selection) of the
#Idaho4
case can look like for
#BryanKohberger
IF convicted. Subscribe and listen on all platforms. And watch on YouTube
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Quote of the week: “Ignorance allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have” ~James Baldwin~
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For those of you going to
@crimecon
@azarilaw
and
@lawyergriffin
invite you to a live podcast at 6:40pm on Fri 9/22 on defense of
#BrianKohberger
. Join us and the top participants will walk away with a goodie first time giveaway.
@NewsNationComms
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Happy Thanksgiving to you all! We are grateful for the presumption, our great guests, and all of you followers & subscribers.
Jim, Sara, Matt & Gabby
@lawyergriffin
@azarilaw
@mattfondiler
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Another fantastic episode dropped today. We talk
#Buster
call with
#AlexMurdaugh
and dig into the
#BryanKohberger
jury selection and trial strategy with high profile trial consultant
#RichardGabriel
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New episode out LIVE from
@crimecon
with
@brianentin
for Q&A.
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
breakdown the defense of
#BryanKohberger
: “Did He Do It? Can They Prove It? “ Our hosts care about one, not the other 😉
Subscribe and review:
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S. Carolina vs
#AlexMurdaugh
. Count 1- shirtless in prison. Penalty - yet another LWOP? 😝
I'm motioning Twitter that we collectively agree not to post any more pics of
#alexmurdaugh
shirtless, because no one needs to see that. Like ever.
Maybe
@lawyergriffin
can help us achieve this reasonable request. What say you Jim? 😏
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This week
@JustinoBrooks
joins us to talk about why “You Might Go To Prison Even If You’re Innocent,” the role of DNA and IGG in exonerations and more. Episode drops on Tues!
@azarilaw
@mattfondiler
@jim
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Sneak peak of this week’s episode. Our hosts discuss the ethics of
#ClerkBeckyHill
in
#Murdaugh
and
@azarilaw
sits with
#MackJenkins
Chief of Criminal for the Central District of Ca about federal prosecution of
#fentanyl
cases. With
@lawyergriffin
and
@mattfondiler
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“Icy prison phone call” btwn
#Buster
&
#AlexMurdauvh
? NOT! Hear why! Plus, an in-depth chat with
#RichardGabriel
about the
#Idaho4
trial strategy + jury selection in
#BryanKohberger
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We absolutely love this episode with
@Markomaralaw
. So much in here about
#BryanKohberger
#idaho4
case from the latest developments all the way through the death penalty. Subscribe listen and check us out on YouTube too
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Those of you following
#BryanKohberger
🚨: if you have any court docs about cell tower evidence and/or BK’s phone not picking up signal, could you please email them to us. We are doing a special episode on CAST forensics soon.
@azarilaw
@SleuthieGoosie
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Don’t miss
@HarpootlianSC
this Tues. always a good time. Always a great conversation. Please visit again soon, Dick 💙
Well, well…look who joins us this week on
@ThePresumption
!! 🚨 South Carolina State Senator, and Jim’s big bro and co-counsel on many cases, Dick Harpootlian
@HarpootlianSC
makes his debut appearance on our podcast. Sara chats with Dick and Jim about the history of their…
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Our own
@azarilaw
is a presenter
@CrimeCon
!
Our hosts invite you to a live podcast episode all on
#BryanKohberger
and
#Idaho4
. Come with Qs and a head full of critical thinking.
@lawyergriffin
@mattfondiler
Welcome to
#CrimeCon2023
@azarilaw
! Sara Azari is a LA-based criminal trial attorney & represents individuals accused of a crime from investigation through trial in state & federal courts. She recently launched the podcast The Presumption with defense attorney
@lawyergriffin
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Thank you
@ChrisCuomo
for doing us a solid on
@NewsNation
. We’re looking forward to chatting with you about so many important issues you’ve covered and we’re dedicated to covering.
@lawyergriffin
@azarilaw
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Wow! This is so cool, Ms. Debbie. We appreciate you. Love,
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
@mattfondiler
#Taylor
& The Pod Squad!
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@lawyergriffin
summing up summing up the significance of
#AlexMurdaugh
’s plea today in Beaufort County.
Jim Griffin: "He said to me....he feels very comfortable doing prison time for crimes that he did....he does not feel comfortable doing prison time for the murders of his wife and son which he did not do."
#AlexMurdaugh
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New episode dropped 🚨!!
Author and journalist
@samquinones7
talks to us about America’s opioid and fentanyl crises. And we go deep on the latest in
#Idaho4
#BryanKohberger
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
@mattfondiler
Watch here:
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@fitsnews
Dear Geniuses: what was read in the documentary is not an interview. Rule not broken. Case closed. If you really need to put a label on it: monologue. They were journal entries.
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“The presumption of innocence is now the presumption of guilt. The burden of proof is a travesty because the proof is often lies. Guilt beyond a reasonable doubt means if he probably did it, then let’s get him off the streets.”
― John Grisham, Rogue Lawyer
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@lawyergriffin
at the
#AlexMurdaugh
presser today following sentencing on the state financial charges made an interesting observation: the victims’ lawyers addressing the court made no mention of
#Murdaugh
’s 2x LWOP sentences 🤔
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While no man is above the law, including a president, every man is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Don’t miss
@azarilaw
’s defense of
@realDonaldTrump
on
#Jan6
charges in a mock trial on
@OpentoDebateOrg
’s livestream👇🏽
Don’t miss this 👇🏽 livestream on Dec 14. I defend my client
@realDonaldTrump
in a mock trial of the
#Jan6
trial charges as prosecuted by my formidable adversary
@LannyDavis
via
@OpentoDebateOrg
Moderated by
@JohnDonvan
@NewsNation
@NewsNationComms
@ThePresumption
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We endorse this message!
This should be every state. Allowing incarcerated people to connect with their families is a human right. Poor families should not have to pay collect phone call bills so children can talk to their incarcerated parents.
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There is no evidence that any bad actor will get away with anything. It’s all noise until a full and unbiased investigation is conducted and completed.
#AlexMurdaugh
#JuryInfluence
@ThePresumption
@lawyergriffin
Looks like from what Eric just put on Twitter Becky Hill will get away with what she did. I pray i'm wrong. That would mean the justice system is over
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Jimmy joined
@marthamaccallum
‘s podcast for a more in-depth conversation about the
#AlexMurdaughJury
saga.
Take a listen 👇🏽
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“I just spent 11 and a half months in a maximum-security jail, got shot five times, and was wrongly convicted of a crime I didn't commit.” ~Tupac Shakur~
In honor of the 50th Anniversary of Hip Hop, we are dropping an episode on murders and justice in Hip Hop universe
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When
@lawyergriffin
’s shelves earn him some kinda award 🥇
#TraditionalSouthern
😂
Breaking. Nominees for Best Shelving in True Crime 2023 in no particular order, are
@LawyerYouKnow
w/ purple neon golf accomplishments.
@lawyergriffin
w/ traditional southern.
@jessecordweber
with girlfriend setup. And
@SusanHendricks
with dual x-braced darkmode experience
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Tune into
@ABCGMA3
today at noon PT/1pET as our hosts chat about the presumption of innocence, the true crime obsession, the impact of media on high profile cases and misconceptions about their job.
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
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Our treat this Halloween!! 👻 New episode dropped with
@JustinoBrooks
: wrongful convictions, DNA and more with our hosts
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
. Check it out!
No tricks today, only treats... including an all new episode of
@ThePresumption
. This week we're discussing the truly terrifying notion of innocent people going to prison. Pls subscribe!
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The yellow pad is a multi-purpose tool 🗒️
#NoLipReadingZone
@lawyergriffin
#AlexMurdaughTrialSetting
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On today’s episode
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
dig deep into
#KouriRichins
’ detention hearing. Take a listen to our new episode of
@ThePresumption
Wide range of topics on today's
@ThePresumption
, including Kouri Richins, Lori Vallow, Danny Masterson, and a priest who heard a serial killer's confession! If you enjoy, please subscribe!
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Next week Terminatir II actor
#EddieFurlong
joins us to talk addiction, journey of sobriety and navigating the system while battling addiction.
#FuckJail
he says. And
@lawyergriffin
does an eval of
@azarilaw
’s advocacy. 😂
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On Tues we’re joined by forensic cell data expert
#JimPersinger
who talks about how cell towers work; when they may fail; why
#Kohberger
’s phone didn’t connect; lost data on Maggie’s phone in
#Murdaugh
+ so much more. A truly informative episode! Peak below👇🏽
From
#Murdaugh
to
#Kohberger
there are issues and flaws with cell phone and tower evidence. Jim and I are thrilled to welcome forensic cell data expert
#jimpersinger
to chat with us on
@ThePresumption
. Episode drops Tuesday! Subscribe, listen, and watch on YouTube.…
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Sneak peek of our July 4 episode with national security attorney
@MarkSZaidEsq
. We talk
#HunterBiden
and
#TrumpDocCase
indictment. Drops tomorrow. Subscribe and listen on all platforms. Watch on YouTube.
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Wait until we unpack the BS and tripe.
@azarilaw
@lawyergriffin
until then 🤐. Subscribe and listen! And watch on YouTube next Tues.
#AlexMurdaughJailCall
#Buster
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@lawyergriffin
brings Southern cool
@azarilaw
brings Hollywood spice
@mattfondiler
keeps them in check
Together they bring elevated conversations on crime and the criminal justice system.
Subscribe. Listen. Watch on YouTube. Happy Friday!
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It’s a wonderful day at The Presumption quarters. We interviewed actor Edward Furlong about his battle with drug addiction, it’s legal consequences and recovery. A great conversation we can’t wait to share with you.
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It’s been a busy day for
@lawyergriffin
. Here’s another great intv earlier on the
@TODAYshow
re
#AlexMurdaugh
motion for new trial based on
#JuryTampering
We will continue this conversation on
@ThePresumption
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I absolutely ❤️ this podcast. I rarely listen to podcasts but this one is amazing. I am a passionate paralegal and I enjoy analyzing & researching evidence. As a hobbie I have been working on two great cases they are currently covering (Idaho 4 case &
#alexmurdaugh
.
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We call them pitbulls :)
Proud of the bulldogs,
@lawyergriffin
&
@HarpootlianSC
! Want to learn more about today’s
#Murdaugh
filings? Check out the latest episode of
@ThePresumption
!
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We’re waiting on Azari to chop chop and finish up so we can record some wisdom on the latest in
#Kohberger
. Jim & Matt
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Father Edward Beck
@FrEdwardBeck
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
discuss the presumption of innocence and assumption of guilt in court and church. We talk role of religion in
#Vallow
and
#Masterson
. Listen on all pod platforms and watch here
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Who’s going to
@CrimeCon
?
Gather your questions about
#BryanKohberger
’s defense and join
@lawyergriffin
and
@azarilaw
for a live podcast episode with Q&A!
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Our own
@azarilaw
making a debut on
@TODAYshow
tomorrow Tues in the 9am hour 🚨
My first time joining
@TODAYshow
in the 9am ET hour tomorrow. Very excited to talk law with
@alroker
@craigmelvin
&
@SheinelleJones
who rocked the
@nycmarathon
yesterday!
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@lawyergriffin
will join
@ChrisCuomo
on
@NewsNation
tonight ahead of
#BusterMurdaugh
’s intv and the
@foxnation
docuseries dropping Aug 31. Get the facts and ignore the noise.
@NewsNationComms
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@ThePresumption
features in-depth interviews with high profile figures in criminal justice, newsmakers and other influential figures.
Please listen, subscribe and spread the word.
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Thank you! Please give us all the stars and write a review 🩵
I just got around to listening to
@ThePresumption
. Every week topics get more interesting. Def a 10/10
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Exactly!
Y’all hear that? That’s the sound of
@lawyergriffin
not giving one scintilla of a flying fuck what someone da Twitterz thinks about him. It’s wildly entertaining to watch these people weeping, wailing and gnashing teeth because
#SweetBecky
got caught out.
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@IamMissy_Jo
Azari kept a log of all the bs that was spewed pre trial then compared it to evidence. Our pod is fact-based no matter what the case or topic. We’re here for credibility, not popularity.
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@azarilaw
was off-branding as a prosecutor and got heat for it from
@ChrisCuomo
and
@markgeragos
😂
#thepresumption
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Person and politics aside, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
@azarilaw
is doing the job on behalf of
#45
tomorrow on
@OpentoDebateOrg
Don’t miss our mock trial debate in United States vs
@realDonaldTrump
on
@OpentoDebateOrg
. I’ll be defending Trump. Please register here to watch the live stream . The debate will air on
@npr
on Jan 5. No man is above the law and all men are presumed…
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We look forward to seeing you at CrimeCon 23! Let’s go 💪🏽
Brian Entin,
@NewsNation
Sr National Correspondent, has been the boots-on-the-ground reporter for some of this countries most high profile cases. From Petito & Daybell-Vallow to the Idaho Murders, the popular field journalist is sure to deliver an epic session at
#CrimeCon2023
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@fitsnews
@foxnation
@netflix
@savannahwalsh22
@VanityFair
We expect more bullshit from Netflix. They fought hard to sit with Buster.
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Full intv of my partner in crime
@lawyergriffin
with
@HarpootlianSC
on with
@ChrisCuomo
on
@NewsNation
@NewsNationComms
. The jury tampering by
#ClerkBeckyHill
in the
#AlexMurdaugh
trial is unprecedented and jaw dropping.
Jim breaks down the law of harmless error in this context…
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@Klaw4Law
When 3 jurors make identical allegations independently that’s more than sufficient. We expect more will come forward. They typically do.
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