Dustin Harris
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Jesus is the Saving King. Husband/Father. Pastor at WHBC. Richmond Braves.
Virginia
Joined August 2009
The most tightly aligned with Scripture I have ever felt is now, where I consistently find myself agreeing *mostly* with various theological systems, but never *fully*, and where I feel comfortable allowing myself to ask good questions about things I’ve always assumed.
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Reading a Calvinist like Oliver Crisp is proving to be quite the breath of fresh air compared to Sproul, White, and Palmer. I admire his intellectual humility.
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We are so used to the response to Paul's interlocutor being "absolutely not" that we tend to apply that answer to this question in Romans 9: "Who can resist His will?" The issue is that Paul always assumes the opposite of the interlocutor's argument, not just "no" or "no one".
PSA: You’re not supposed to AGREE with Paul’s hypothetical fatalistic objector in Romans 9.
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One of my biggest issues with any form of determinism within Christian orthodoxy is that it, in my opinion, damages all confidence in rationality. How can I trust that I weighed the evidence rationally for, well anything, if something outside myself is the ultimate cause?
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I’m seeing a lot of people present the Gospel as “Jesus keeps you from burning in Hell for eternity” in light of annihilationism. The Gospel is the message of the saving King Jesus, yes, but is more about being saved TO LIFE, here and now, than it is about escape from punishment
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Is this statement true: Believers AND unbelievers are bodily resurrected because Jesus was bodily resurrected, and in this sense, Jesus’ resurrection impacts all humanity, whether believer or not.
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Calvinist/Reformed brothers: Let’s assume you are correct on all fronts. Could God have freely chosen to create the universe in a way that operated in the same sense believed by Arminians, for example, and retained His character and nature?
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Do not hold to annihilationism or conditional immortality because it softens the blow of judgment on those who die outside of Christ. Do not hold to ECT because it seems to be the difficult or hardest version of judgment for those who die outside of Christ.
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Per Romans 5, in what way is the "gift" greater than the "trespass"? Hit me with your best explanation!
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This is overrealized eschtalogy, akin to the Prosperity Gospel.
OCD is not a disease like cancer. The cure has already been discovered and it is Jesus Christ. His Word is more powerful than this diagnosis.
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One thing that has become clear from a lot of this Twitter debate on ECT/CI: Lots of people don't know what it means to assume the point of contention. You can't argue that your case is biblical because you read it in the Bible. The contention is how to interpret the Bible.
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I think that the fact that ECT is the majority held view in Church History is compelling, but circumstantial at best. We like to live in the extremes with this stuff too often. An argument can compel but not serve as a silver bullet. But we like quick and pithy.
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Lets say annihilationism is true: Atheist Jim stands before God at final judgment, and sees with his eyes that glory of the Lord, and comes to recognize what he missed in life and will miss in eternity, and then is deprived of the greatest good. He won't care?
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Im sure this guy doesn't mean it this way but: Doesn't this line of thinking ultimately mean that eternal life with Christ, co-ruling in the New Heavens and New Earth, enjoying *shalom* and God's intention for humanity, is just not that appealing?
@TexasPreacher The problem with annihilationism is it destroys any need for the Gospel. Most people will choose to cease to exist than a life of suffering for Christ. There is no longer an incentive if everyone will no longer exist. Its easier to live in sin and then die awaiting a time you
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Interested in some good natured, reasonable discussion on this, as I think most of what I've seen has not been so so far, and while I don't hold to CI, in my recent experience they have had the better *argumentation* and especially the better attitude in this recent "fight".
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As someone who is thinking through the arguments about the nature of Hell, and would not call myself an annihilationist/CI, I'll say these arguments haven't landed for me from ECT: 1). CI lessens or destroys the work of the Cross. 2). If heaven is eternal, hell must be.
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Every once in a while someone makes that claim that to deny the "imputation of the active obedience of Christ" is heretical. The imputation view usually entails holding that the believer's righteousness rests on Christ's vicarious law-keeping. We get forgiveness of sins from his
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Who has become an annihilationist because of Kirk Cameron? 🤪
Never get your theology from a celebrity. First Corinthians 1:18 and following is still true.
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If the future gift/goal of the Gospel is everlasting life with Christ in the New Heavens and New Earth, enjoying God and His creation in perfection, then: Annihilation is the deprivation of this gift/goal, and not a *softening* of the Gospel.
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If the big goal of the afterlife is to escape eternal suffering, then yes, annihilationism softens the blow of the Gospel message. If the goal is to be with Christ in resurrection bodies, experiencing life as co-rulers to its fullest in perfect communion with God, it doesn’t. 🤷🏼♂️
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Ok, I change my mind. Annihilationism may be the most misunderstood minority doctrine in Western Evangelicalism. All these tweets man….go engage a view critically and with patience before the twitter fingers get typing 🤦♂️
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