Mere Christianity is the admission we may not know everything we need to know about scripture / history and philosophy - but we can know Jesus offers a bridge to God that we are invited to cross.
@exAtheistRCC
Another prime example of the multi God fallacy.
Let’s work this through - there is a murder and detectives start with 100 suspects bc it was at a park. Does it follow there wasn’t a murder?
Think a little
The question isn’t COULD God remove all suffering.
It’s not even if God removed suffering would we have free agency?
What if suffering is the path to most people finding God? What if a world with suffering would bring the most souls to peace for eternity?
What if it’s yes?
@darwintojesus
Average age of kids exposure is 11😔. Most is non consensual and it changes the way they think of intimacy before they have their first kiss🤍
@WizardTraveling
93% war and genocide( for all of human history) at the hands of people who claimed no religious ties. So yeah - we can’t exactly confident in that -
“mock them. ridicule them. in public. with contempt.
Richard Dawkins(2012)
When faced with the consequence of the vacuum created….
“I am a cultural Christian’
Richard Dawkins(2024)
It is crazy to postulate a trillion (causally unconnected) universes to explain the features of one universe, when postulating one entity (God) will do the job.
-Richard Swinburne
I reject theocracy- but
93% of all wars and genocide were committed by individuals or groups who claimed no religion.
Maybe it’s time to stop creating straw enemies and start helping to solve some actual problems humans face?
Last time bigotry helped humans?
Hint: NEVER✔️
Dale is quick to insult, gaslight and then rejoice in spreading hate. He does not back up claims but asks the theist to meet him in “conversation”. He can't prove his attacks on theists. When you wisely refuse to engage with the sociopathic man- he blocks.
Save time & energy.
Studying skeptical claims of the NT. It’s basically a conspiracy theory- It claims these men copied lies off each other, knitted in the OT, invented a creed, choose to leave family & community, risked their lives for a lie they made up.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF FAITH🙃
Nor can the Strong Atheist claim “there are not god/s” Since proof is not even the standard.
Makes sense it’s better to claim a mental state.
The metaphysical equivalent to
“I have a headache”
As Jesus sends out his disciples (two-by-two), He declares, “If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet
Matthew 10:14
Walking away is okay too, force feeding words doesn't help🤍
What do you think?
Can a being who admits they are nothing more than chemicals and matter claim they will be guided to a moral understanding?
Can 10 such beings - some who get mad enough in traffic to shoot others be responsible for moral consensus?
Whose empathy counts?
We do, human suffering is explained in Christian theology.
How about by the naturalist?
It just happens. No purpose, no reason - no justice, no eternal peace.
There ya go. I take door number 1 Bob.
@BibleBashed
So men can't help? And if his wife has a messy kitchen it's bc she is using depression as a crutch. As a home school mom of 4/ who also battles with clinical depression to a suicidal
Ideation state. I am sad to these terms used as weapons by brothers.
@paulogia0
So much OF Atheism is complaining about how theists can't sufficiently meet the bar while the vast majority of Atheists claim a mental state that requires nothing of them.
The disciples had ZERO expectation of a rising messiah.
In a matter of weeks they went from confusion to being willing to risk their lives for a risen savior.
If they didn't see him raised - why would they be willing to die for what they KNEW wasn't true?
Motive anyone?
Thank you
@RichardDawkins
This what happens when you grow wise to what you have done, when you realize the cultural damage done.
Better Late Than Never.
All who say we have no reason to fear the loss of Christian ethics - behold your leader🎯
If you think depression is self created ,
or worse a form of laziness-
Look yourself in the mirror and say-
“I am blessed.”
I have dodged a painful hurdle and am fortunate enough to be ignorant about it✔️
@BibleBashed
I am a Christian.
That does not mean I am a Christian Nationalist.
I have a right to my personal convictions, but I have no desire to force them on others.
Notice this is not what you hear anywhere on X?
Don't tell me anger isn't the algorithm.
@BibleBashed
Look at this post - your response? Sloth? I lived in agony for 3 years. Only stayed here bc of my belief system/ this is a horrific thread. Please reconsider the impact if you are wrong--and you are.
People who say consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy confuse me.
Do we consent to consequences of our actions? If I base jump, do
I need to consent to hitting the ground?
Am I willing to hit the ground?
An abortion is often asking the innocent child to break my fall.
@NoncSamedi
@exAtheistRCC
Kind of making the same point… Just because there are a bunch of options does not negate the fact that one is true. I probably hear the subjection once a day and it’s absolutely astounding to me that people don’t understand the problem with it.
@AndyBuzz72
I see a parent teaching their child the path they think will bring them peace and hope. If this is indoctrination so is the atheist parent who teaches their child what they believe is true and helpful.
@iamAtheistGirl
I believe you- I have no doubt it was painful.
The problem is people like me were Atheists. From a non religious home and in figuring out what I believe - 15 years later found Mere Christianity.
I don't come here bc youndont believe- but bc you mock what I do.
Okay Sure- let’s check with the 55 million victims of Pol Pot, Mao & Stalin. They were super tolerant.
Never forget 97% of war and genocide were irreligious - let that sink in.
Let’s remember the Atheist position
( when they aren’t merely making a claim about a mental state)
has the same standard.
Hitch was funny, but he missed the obvious here.
Liz made the claim- “there are no sacred texts.”
I said- it’s your opinion.
She responds that as the theist, I have the burden- automatically.
Can the Atheist make claims about Theism with no burden?
@TheSkeptic4122
Believing in God doesn’t mean you don’t act out of pure Love- it means you hold a worldview that explains it’s source and how laying down your life for others is a sacred thing. It doesn’t say Love others so you get something.
Humility prevents us from mocking others who don’t agree with us -
We are busy being grateful for the truth we have found🤍
Peace is a treasure- but it can’t be imposed, it must be found 🤍
Hitchens Razor:
‘What Can Be Asserted Without Evidence Can Also Be Dismissed Without Evidence’
Sounds good, til you realize it's a claim you can't give evidence for.
Gotta love it when the trash takes itself out by being self defeating 🚯
@LauraRbnsn
This individual also blocks you the moment you reply in a respectful and cogent manner - which is why it’s a huge acct. saying popular (& often untrue) things and them blocking dissent looks pretty successful …
When the theist rightly asserts that facts show there is no reason to fear religion. (93% of carnage in war and genocide were greed, power and land grabs throughout human history)
It is important to clarify- theocracies have a bloody history and that is not a goal.
When you have to silence dissent - or worse, assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is uninformed or ignorant - you might have a problem/ or be in a cult. Unity will cost you something.
When secular institutions are immune to the same abuse religious ones are plagued by-
We will consider the argument that religion is the problem.
Til then it's just spitting in the wind with bias too thinly veiled
If you are a skeptic and actually cares about child abuse, not just gloating in the failures of religious institutions( which mirror the same stats as secular ones)
Get involved/start programs that teach parents trust is earned with action not titles. Kids will be spared.
@CosmicSkeptic
Love your heart here✔️
As a late convert I can offer that feelings are not the test. Rather it’s true or not is. I don’t believe most feelings are genuine - experience is in the minority.
Apply it, live it and see if it’s true. If God is real it will change you.
@MereSkepticism
Believing the case is strong for theism and cumulatively for Christianity is exactly why the critical thinking skills of Christians cannot be trusted and certainly shouldn't be allowed in public office.
@Askwhyisit
Existence cries out for explanation -
aesthetics, music, the human soul reaching for something more than survival and death.
If God exists - he uses the natural that he created, and the supernatural to reach in - to incite wonder in you. That is no accident🤍
@Askwhyisit
Never listened to 5 people tell an account of a story huh ?
If it were a cover up or fabricated it would be as consistent as taxes and death 🖤
@GodlessLiz
New Atheism took a massive head dive into concrete Liz. Anyone who read the books saw it happen like a slow motion train wreck🚞
But as long as there have been people who thought they could be a better God- there have been Atheists. So pretty much pre human history ✔️🎯
@DougJotblad
I often find the arguments silly- even atheist scholars agree Jesus lived and his followers made claims about him and his teaching. It’s more than enough to go on.
This is bigotry, and it’s a popular post.
If you are a believer or an unbeliever and you partake in bigotry for likes- you are inciting dehumanization.
Now who is that helping?
Always interesting when people understand God’s jealousy as petty.
God could force anything to happen at any moment. He isn’t impotent.
His jealousy is FOR US.
Anything less than him is death for us.
He wants the best for US.
Not petty
Now PROUD to be a bigot about people He sees as a faceless group who are not deserving of respect. Mind you most of which he has never spoken with with much less known.
Well done Zedd- you are making the world a worse place for your grandchildren👏👏👏👏
To all who celebrate -
Today He laid the bridge between a Holy God and a people who would rather serve ourselves than Him.
The chasm was wide but the Love was wider.
Happy Easter ✝️
When people who accuse you of not being open minded - because you don’t agree with their closed minded positions😂.
It’s another day on X
Happy Friday ♥️
Age Old Story-
You post a modest claim pointing out that war and genocide is a human problem not a religious one.
Then you give hard indisputable data and it shows if there was an argument to be made it would be that secular governments are much more threatening- and this- 🙄
Philosophy is not dead.
If we are not precise in meaning- we have no basis to communicate.
If you think it’s a mess now, try making philosophy irrelevant✔️
@BibleBashed
There is help and life after depression! Shed the judgement and archaic view getting help is for the weak.
Leave the housework, get help and do some study to find the Bible doesn’t say most of the things about shame and limited value these kind of
Men are pushing ✔️
@JesseDornfeld
I would say why do you assume he needs to dance for your preferences ? If you sit here ready to defend your rejection of Jesus and His claims- he is not hidden