Lisa Liel
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Jew living in the Jewish homeland. Any Arab who doesn't renounce the "right of return" cannot be allowed to remain in any territory we control.
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@Alonso_GD
I hate to have to repost this, but I guess I will.
The UN was obligated, legally, to facilitate a Jewish state in all of the 21% of post-Ottoman Palestine that was left after the Brits carved off 79% for the Arabian Emir Abdullah.
Why? Because upon their formation, they took
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@jehadsaftawi
Okay, they're blaming Hamas. Does that mean they are willing to accept the existence of a sovereign Jewish state -- of any size whatsoever -- between the river and the sea? I doubt it.
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@MalkahFleisher
I'm even more uncomfortable with the fact that *Obama* is going around to other countries and meeting with their leaders.
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@Resist_05
Check out the edges of the hole in the top of that vehicle. They're pushed up, indicating that the explosion came from below.
No airstrike can do that. Also, no airstrike leaves all the bodies intact like they are in another photo.
VERDICT: FAKE
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Yet another option. A three state solution. Palestine would be bordered by Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. They would not be contiguous with Israel at all. And this is an area of Jordan that is:
a) Part of what was historically called Palestine.
b) Scarcely used, and
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@aziz0nomics
Obviously the Pals would have to renounce the "right of return". But that's never going to happen.
And you *know* that's never going to happen. You're just enjoying tilting at windmills.
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@CarolineGlick
Caroline, I've been saying this since the beginning of April. There's a reason why we didn't start the invasion in Rafah.
And there's a reason the US is so hysterical (like Rumplestilskin at the end of the story) about us going into Rafah now.
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@HilzFuld
I think that Israel has made an enormous blunder in not keeping a website up with a running tally of every rocket fired at us, and every attempt to bring weapons or explosives into Israel. With dates and photos.
People honestly don't know about this, because we're playing macho.
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@AliEzzoBezzo
He puts his hands in his pocket. He casually slaps the side of the bus as he enters it. His arms are not broken.
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@tangeriminies
No one is going to believe you, because they know we aren't Arabs. We don't act that way.
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@JewishWarrior13
More like 70% men. But they won't rise up against Hamas, because they *agree* with Hamas.
The only sane thing for Israel to do once we weed out the active combatants is to set up an office to aid Gazans who want to emigrate. And protect those who take us up on the offer.
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@Alonso_GD
Assembly, which is not a legislative body, proposed the Partition Plan in 1947, it was the equivalent of someone who owes you $100 saying, "How about if I give you $50, and I give this guy over here who wants to murder you the other $50."
We figured that $50 was better than
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@EVKontorovich
@WSJ
All due respect, Eugene, but *no* Palestinians can be allowed to run anything after this war is over. Not in Gaza, and not in Judea/Samaria.
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@_ZachFoster
That's a lie. There is no gate there that Arabs can't pass through. Though there *are* gates that Jews aren't allowed to pass through. So I guess there really is apartheid. Just not against Arabs.
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@aziz0nomics
You're mistaken. Israel would very much be threatened by a ceasefire. Because a ceasefire would be one-sided. And it would allow Hamas the leisure to rearm and re-recruit. It would make the last 6 months a waste, and they needn't be.
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@Alonso_GD
upon themselves all of the legal obligations of their predecessor organization, the League of Nations. Which had made that commitment, in view of the fact, known to everyone at the time, that Palestine was the European name for the land of the Jews.
When the UN General
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therefore ripe for development. c) Not bordering Israel. The land area is roughly the same as that of Israel (including Judea, Samaria, and Gaza), and constitutes about 30% of Jordan's current area.
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@vildechayeh
But their stories are lies. Their grandparents are hardly going to say, "Yeah, I fled to get out of the way because the incoming Arab armies told me I could come back and have the Jews' property after they murdered them all." So instead, they say, "Mean Jews were mean!"
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Wow... this BBC reporter *really* didn't like hearing that she was just making crap up when she claimed that Israel was violating international law. Natasha Hausdorff simply kicked her ass.
You’ll be hard pressed to find more knowledgeable experts on international law and how it effects Israel in its response to the Hamas massacre, than barrister Natasha Hausdorff! Brilliant explanation here on BBC.
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What Peace Looks Like
Israel dismantles the PA and restores the situation that existed prior to the Oslo Accords. Israeli police stations and Israeli post offices will be opened in every town.
Hostile actors will be permitted to leave with their safety guaranteed.
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@VerminusM
Jews tend to rise to the top of anything they put their minds to. Except maybe sports. But including antisemitism.
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@Alonso_GD
nothing, so we accepted it. But the other guy didn't accept it. He tried to murder us. So the deal never went through. Leaving the legal situation back the way it was before the GA made their proposal.
At that point, the Jews were entitled to everything between the river
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What Hamas wants is to provoke Israel to *actually* wipe out as many Gazans as possible.
Since Israel won't do that, they're simply pretending that Israel is doing it and proclaiming that to the world. And there are enough stupid people who will buy it.
But their optimum
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@ousmannoor
See, there you go. They haven't been ethnically cleansed off their own land. First, it's not their land. Most of them abandoned whatever land they had as part of a war effort against us. We won that war, and we won the abandoned land.
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@YosephHaddad
Like the heroine Yael from the book of Judges, who was of the same people. Much love and support to her!
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@richimedhurst
So you're in favor of all Arabs going back to Arabia? Finally something we can agree on!
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@MarkKersten
Legally speaking, Gaza is not occupied territory. We captured it from Egypt in 1967. They captured it from us in 1948. We were granted it by the League of Nations in 1922. The UN took upon itself all legal obligations of the League of Nations.
So Article 49 does not apply.
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@Alonso_GD
back to Egypt in return for a very cold "peace" in which they have facilitated the arming of Hamas. We kept the Golan Heights, because it's strategically valuable, since it overlooks the whole Galilee. As someone who lives in the Galilee, I'm particularly appreciative of that.
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@Alonso_GD
Today, Israel holds no land that does not belong to it legally. We took the Golan Heights in a defensive war, we liberated Judea/Samaria from Jordanian occupiers, and we liberated the Gaza Strip from Egyptian occupiers.
Our only mistake was not repatriating the Arabs caught
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@WinterForMT
No, Israel is not.
Dogs bark.
Bees sting.
Pallies lie.
In particular, they like to ascribe to their enemies the kinds of atrocities they commit. Or dreamof committing.
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@academic_la
And it's still not going to get to the rank and file Gazans, because they've had more than enough food in Gaza. It just gets grabbed and hoarded by Hamas.
You think this is going to change that?
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@Alonso_GD
and the sea. But the Arabs who hadn't fled, along with the armies of 6 Arab countries, launched a war of extermination against us, and while they didn't succeed, they did manage to capture 35-40% of our land. Jordan and Egypt, between them, illegally occupied that part of our
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@aziz0nomics
As a far right Israeli, I agree 100%. This horrible "administrative detention" is left over from British Mandatory law, & does not suit a civilized country ruling itself. It's used against Arabs, but it's also used against Israelis. It should not be used *period*.
#habeuscorpus
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@Alonso_GD
land from the 1949 Armistice until the 1967 war, when we liberated all of it. And took the Sinai and the Golan Heights as a bonus. We actually reached the outskirts of Damascus, and decided (I'm not sure why) to stop, rather than take it. Ditto for Cairo.
We traded the Sinai
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@khalidi79397
We can do better than that. We can provide aid and assistance to you and all of your fellow Gazans (and those in Judea and Samaria as well) to emigrate successfully and comfortably to new homes in civilized lands.
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@aziz0nomics
You're mistaken. The Arabs living there had no national project. This is just more historical revisionism.
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@Alonso_GD
behind enemy lines at the end of the 1967 war. We absolutely should have done so. And we still should.
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@TigayBarry
Would one of the many terrorist sympathizers here like to explain how this area is considered "occupied" by Israel? It was purchased by Jews, stolen by Jordan, and retrieved in 1967.
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Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Deport a man and you never have to feed him again.
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@SometimesPooh
The IDF have announced that they have gained control over Shifa Hospital in Gaza City and are urging Hamas members who are inside to surrender peacefully. According to IDF reports, approximately 80 suspects, including terror operatives, have been apprehended by troops.
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Jordan wants Israel to give it water.
Israel should condition any water it gives Jordan on Jordan accepting the transfer of Palestinians from Judea/Samaria to Jordan.
Otherwise, not a drop.
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@MahQaddoha
Why do you think that is? I mean, we used to have tens of thousands of Gazans coming into Israel every day on work permits. And before Hamas started importing tons of weapons, there was no naval blockade.
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@drosepali
It's not new, because it's not real. We aren't Arabs, Dunia. We don't use rape as a tool of war. Stop projecting your cultural perversions onto us.
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@THEUSAREPORT2
@academic_la
Because as soon as Israel declares a place a humanitarian zone, Hamas rushes in with missiles to that specific place and starts firing missiles at Israeli cities.
We're supposed to just let them? Maybe your Gazans should fight back against the lunatics and their missiles.
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@JewishWarrior13
Why the *hell* would we allow an international force to handle Rafah? Have we learned *nothing*?
We can't outsource our security. Not to anyone.
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@micetormind
Wow. That's pretty awful.
I guess the whole, "Let's go rape some Jews to death and murder their babies" thing didn't work out so well for you.
The question is, will you learn from the lesson?
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@falasteen47
The IDF have announced that they have gained control over Shifa Hospital in Gaza City and are urging Hamas members who are inside to surrender peacefully. According to IDF reports, approximately 80 suspects, including terror operatives, have been apprehended by troops.
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So you've seen this picture going around, right? Most of you realize it's AI generated. But let's take a look.
There's a shadow on the wall behind the chair. That tells you where the light is coming from. But the soldier doesn't case a shadow on the guy in the chair.
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@academic_la
Channel 12 refuses to interview the hostage families who are staunchly against any deal with Hamas, because it doesn't go along with their agenda.
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Huh. I guess there were "Palestinians" before 1948. Of course, they were Nazis.
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@DrKarimWafa
Of putting together Pallywood scenes? I imagine you are. Why not just surrender?
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Who thought, back on Oct 7, that the propaganda would become so sick that people would actually be calling the rescue of 4 Israeli hostages a "massacre"?
This is a moral sickness.
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I've been rather impatiently waiting for my fellow Zionists to come to grips with the fact -- yes, fact -- that this is not a Hamas problem, but a "Palestinian" one.
That their entire "nation" is a human weapon, cocked and aimed at Israel.
That they exist for only one
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@JoshuaParkhurst
No. Not excessive at all. This is the kind of thing where the punishment has to be super severe. Otherwise it gets emulated.
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@glcarlstrom
So you're saying that maybe 84% of the buildings in Gaza are untouched? Because that sounds like some pretty precision bombing.
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@VerminusM
Gaza must be forfeit. Every last Gazan must leave. They are all, by Spanish law, entitled to asylum in Spain, and that's where they should be sent.
Gaza formally annexed, and land grants there given to every soldier who fought there, and the families of everyone who fell there.
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@jorymicah
Because Ukraine was the victim of an invasion and is only fighting back. And Israel was the victim of an invasion and is only fighting back.
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@BeckettUnite
They didn't agree to anything acceptable to Israel. Meaning that they haven't agreed to a ceasefire agreement.
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I'm six follows short of 1000. I have no idea why I care. I'm not even sure I do.
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@emilykschrader
@Jon44444444
They pay taxes. Why is it okay to have a pride parade in Jerusalem? Maybe they shouldn't do it in a public space either. Except no, they're citizens. They pay taxes. They're entitled to use public spaces that they pay for to display their cultural events. It's just us who aren't.
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@1000Kryptonite
@Lauren_Southern
Beats me. The government is damned authoritarian. We don't have freedom of speech, we don't have jury trials. We desperately need a constitution.
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@ShelleyGldschmt
@Osint613
I'm not sure Egypt is as worried as the US. I bet the US is pressuring them to make these threats.
Sinwar has a dossier of all of the help they've received from the US since 2011. And he's blackmailing the US that if he's killed or captured, it goes public.
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@PBlakeney9
This isn't Saudi land. It's currently part of Jordan. A country whose population is already 90% Palestinian.
Those Palestinians in Jordan who cause trouble to the Hashemite regime there might also be relocated to this new Palestine.
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@j_alfarra
@AvigdorLiberman
@Meravbenari
No, she didn't bring it on herself. Her parents brought it on her.
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But I thought they'd rather die as martyrs than surrender?
I guess martyrdom is just for the little people. Their leaders don't want to die.
🚨 Breaking: Raed Saad, Hamas' head of operations and 4th highest ranking commander, surrendered at Shifa “hospital” in Gaza 👇
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@afalkhatib
The Three State Solution is the only proposal that gives the Palestinians a fully sovereign state, twice the area of what they could ever get in a 2 state solution, *within* post-Ottoman Palestine, but without presenting an existential threat to Israel.
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Read the response to this. This is a video from Afghanistan. And ask yourself this question: If these things were really happening in Gaza, why would they have to use videos from Afghanistan?
Most of the "deaths" in Gaza are cinema magic. Special effects. Fiction.
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@aziz0nomics
I'll tell you what. Any Gazans who come to Israeli forces and say they want to leave, we can put them up in the Negev until we can get them on a plane. Deal?
They aren't going to Judea and Samaria. We have enough trouble there already.
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▪US TELLS ISRAEL PURPOSE OF WAR.. The American ambassador in Israel: “The goal of the war is to reduce the power and authority of Hamas, not to eliminate it completely.” (( SAY WHAT? You are telling Israel what the purpose of this war for survival is? ))
Fuck that.
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@gregjstoker
Then pay us 14 billion dollars for the priceless intelligence and training and use of our ports that we've given to you for free over the years.
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@enochscowl
Yes. The MOU that Obama forced on us made it economically unfeasible to buy arms from elsewhere or to make our own here.
We are starting to make ours here now regardless, because we know the US isn't to be trusted. Meanwhile, the US has crippled our arms sector.
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This is about the level that Pally propaganda and other Jew-haters are on.
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