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10 year EV owners and advocates. YouTubers, tinkerers and repairers of EV powertrains. Mobile EV technician @Cleevely_Mobile
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I don’t want to say ‘middle-aged, white man’, but I’m definitely seeing a trend in the bullshido and absolute lack of knowledge when it comes to net zero.
Ok, let’s fact this out.
The particular mower, a 36v Ebauer will run for 80 mins on a full charge and consume
Net Zero Nonsense.
Cutting my lawns with a battery powered lawnmower (a gift) gets you thinking.
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Here's a real issue we are seeing time and time again.
I did a repair on a local ladies Renault Zoe today. She'd been quoted £1203 to have a 'Danger Electrical Failure' warning lamp issue resolved, a new door hinge, a water ingress issue resolved and 2 x TPMS sensors.
What it
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If there was ever a reason to own a
@Tesla
this is probably it. Hit by a truck travelling at 60 mph whilst stationary. 6 others involved were hospitalised, but the driver here wasn’t!!
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This Model 3 was registered on 14th October 2019....
Original front and rear discs and pads, battery, motors, inverters, coolant, brake fluid, you get the picture.
Just saying.
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If anyone asks “what happens to EV battery modules when they’re no longer suitable for cars”, we sell them to people who do this.
These modules are now 13 years old.
This is on a canal boat and allows the owner to run completely off-grid with a small solar array. He’s adding
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Stroll on.
I've been doing some maths.
Our MG5 is now at 130,000 miles.
If our MG5 had been a diesel car and it averaged 50mpg, it would have costs us £17,375 just in fuel.
We'll forget servicing, wet belts, egr coolers, DPF regens and discs and pads for now.
Because
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Just add the 4.4 billion metric tonnes of crude oil to this and you'd understand how much mining isn't even in the same league as oil extraction. It's also worth remembering that we don't really set fire to the stuff we mine, and it can normally be recycled or reused.
Burnt
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Driving my friends
@PolestarCars
this evening, the headlights are amazing. I’m ready for this on our
@Tesla
Model Y any time soon 🙏🏼😳
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56 parking spaces, 56 chargers in place. Even those that don’t run EVs contributed to this as per parking space, the cost was £75. Future proofed 👌🏼
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FFS. Everything about this says “you don’t need it”, but I can see this causing many an old man, myself included, a few issues.
Chinese EVs and pretty much anything Chinese is laughed at and ridiculed (by a certain type) yet here we are in 2023 and the whole auto industry is
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@Tesla
Model S
296,321 miles ✅
Original battery ✅
Original motor ✅
Not been on fire ✅
Not in landfill ✅
Over 180t CO2 saving vs an equivalent ICE ✅
Still working as a Taxi ✅
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There’s a whole lot of FUD going around about EVs as the bottom drops out of the fossil fuel world. Here’s every place our fully electric MG5 has taken us over the last 15 months and 64k miles. I’ve never ran out, it’s never broken down and it’s saved us £200 pcm minimum.
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Our oldest MG5 has just gone through 100,000 miles at 2 years old. That’s equivalent to 14 years of average uk use. Average efficiency of 4.1 miles/kWh or 198.8mpg and the traction battery is at 94% SOH. Not bad for a cheap Chinese EV.
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Today we become a gas free household.
I love the idea of energy independence and not being tied to fluctuating costs.
I was also pleased to hear that
@OctopusEnergy
are carrying out 1000 heat pump installations weekly.
This can only be a good thing.
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100 charging points that you can pre-book and they charge at off peak times. This is how it should be done. It's not free, but works out to 7.25p per mile, amazing.
@CenterParcsUK
are in touch with what customers need as we transition to electric👌🏻
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Here's my 'happy Tuesday' face. This business customer was considering scrapping this 9 year old Zoe as it wouldn't charge. 2 hours and £160 later, they have a working car again.
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This is amazing. I'm stood here on the UK's first electric forecourt while over 20 EVs charge simultaneously, some at 250kWs. This is the future and there will be over 100 of these opening very soon, head over guys, try it for yourself.
@GRIDSERVE_HQ
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We now run 5 x MG5's in our company
@Cleevely_Mobile
. One MG5 is just under 120k, one just under 115k and the others between 10k and 50k.
They've saved us so much money I really can't quantify it.
- None have broken down
- None have required brake replacements
- The purchase
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Quick MG5 update.
Age: 2 years and 7 months
Mileage: 133,514
Traction battery SOH: 91%
Cost of maintenance and repairs:
1st set of tyres at 51,000 - £280
2nd set at 101,000 - £280
3rd set looking at 145,000ish - Hopefully the same
1 x Charge port flap £114+vat
4 x pollen
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This is interesting. We know it's the best selling car in Europe, but it looks as if the
@Tesla
MY will become the best selling car on the planet.
I never knew EV uptake would move so quickly. The 2030 ban seems to pale into insignificance.
Thoughts?
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EV’s currently offset 1.5M+ barrels of oil per day. This is set to rise to 5M by 2025.
You can see why there’s currently a shitstorm in the media.
Someone’s losing some serious money 🤔
I’ll add, 1 barrel of crude oil produces 426kgs of CO2.
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Here's one of those cheap, nasty, unreliable Chinese EVs. 100% it's been on fire at least twice, caused 8000 potholes, crushed two multistory car parks and had nine batteries in its 4 year life.
Meanwhile, in the real world;
It's covered 160,000 miles, 133,000 above the
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I've just booked a customer in for a first service on a 12 month old Tesla Model 3. Mileage 104k 😳 It's not even a taxi.
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You have to laugh when people say “EVs are too heavy”. My car weighs 1562kgs, a few kilos heavier than the similarly sized Ford Focus diesel estate, at 1485kgs. The two
@Wankpanzer
’s next to me weigh in at 2100kgs (BMW) and 2400kgs(Merc)
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After many requests for an update on the longevity of our MG5's traction battery, our 17 month old MG is now just shy of 73k. It's currently sat at 98% SOH with a voltage spread of 18mV. If degredation continues at this rate, we'll easily see 250k before 90%. Best money we've
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I’ve just had 10 mins looking around this, and yes, it’s driven from Sweden to Scotland. It’s beautiful and the quality is fantastic. I really do fear for European manufactures, the Chinese are going to clean them up.
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We paid £7,000 to have a
@Tesla
Powerwall installed on 2nd July 2020.
Since then it has saved us approximately £200-250 pcm by allowing us to power shift. This way we can utilise off-peak energy and support the grid by using energy when the grid’s load is very low.
Since then
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Here's our 4th company MG5. Destination - Scotland.
There's good reason we continue to buy these.
We currently cover between 45,000 - 50,000 miles annually and these have been faultless
Our oldest MG5 is 2 years old and covered over 92,000 miles
A set of tyres is lasting
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We are generating so much renewable energy we’re now refuelling our neighbours car for her. Our EV and home battery is full and our hot water is piping. Cost savings are massive here. All provided by our
@myenergiuk
equipment 👌🏻
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Reality check folks.
Below is the new Vauxhall Astra Estate EV. Looks good, and with 258 miles of 'won't happen' available from the 54kWh battery (real world 180 miles) starting from only..... wait for it.... £39,995 for the base model, they're living in a dream world.
I'm
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These electric cars will need a new battery every 3 years. This has covered 138k more miles than what the average UK car gets scrapped at. It's also on the original battery 👌🏻
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Today I was going to write a long tweet to counter the numerous, and sadly common, misleading media bias that's being posted. Synthetic fuel, hydrogen, potholes and carparks, all of which have little to no substance.
However, I've realised I don't need to. All you need to do is
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It’s a very valid point. Why do we need cars with top speeds this high??
Here’s a thought? Personally I’d be happy to have my vehicle limited based on GPS location, essentially meaning I could never speed.
What do you all think of this? Would you be happy to do the same??
Range Rover Sport SVR, valued at £180,000, could be seen hitting a top speed of 110mph on the 40mph-limit A40 westbound near Ealing, Greater London, before he lost control.
Why does
@LandRover_UK
sell a car that has a top speed of 176 mph?
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On the right is an original TRW brake pad from our MG5 EV, It's covered 100,576 miles. On the left is a brand new, pattern Apec brake pad. It's going back in the box for another 100k.
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Let's add some balance to this misleading post from James....
There's no getting away from the fact, this is horrific
For this reason cobalt usage in EV's is being phased out with the implementation of LFP and Sodium-Ion batteries.
Cobalt has been used in the desulphurisation
Around 40,000 child slaves are exploited in Congo to mine for Cobalt that is used in electric car batteries. The false virtue of corporatist net zero solutions masks the real unethical inhumanity that is often involved to obtain it.
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This old girl is now at over 114,000 miles and is only 2 years and 2 months old.
We’re now picking these up for >15k and they want for nothing.
There’s a good reason we own 5 and we will have a 6th within a few weeks.
If you want cheap motoring, this is how you do it.
To
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We need infrastructure so here’s the UK’s second electric forecourt (these guys also have the 1st) The landscape is changing very quickly on the electric car scene. 36 x 350kW units under cover plus more AC units. It’s getting rather easy driving an electric car these days ❤️
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I can't believe more people don't buy these.
They are now buttons to purchase, buttons to run, buttons to maintain, have amazing reliability, are well specified, efficient, parts are cheap if required, loads of space, 11kW onboard charger and the list goes on.
We've just
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Second time in as many weeks I’ve sat next to an
@Hyundai_UK_PR
Ioniq 5 whilst charging.
I’m already plugged in and have been for 15 mins.
Ioniq pulls in, plugs-in and the lady disappears
I’m now glued to the charge screen and it’s pulling 221kWs peak, but it holds it
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One of our customers with a 2019
@Tesla
Model 3 has covered 182,514 and the traction battery SOH is still 95%. From my working, to 70% SOH, it will cover approx 1,095,084 miles. Since we've looked after it the maintenance has amounted to £1090. Tyres excluded. Not bad I'd say.
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£24,555 we paid for this. One 19 minute top up at 218 miles, it's fully loaded and made this complete journey on £9.80. From this reason alone, there is no better vehicle or EV we could have chosen. I keep going on about it, but there's very few that can top this!!
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Exeter Services. Contactless, accessible, plentiful and reliable. I’m not sure I need to add anything to this apart from
@ElecHighway
- we appreciate this, it makes life a whole lot less stressful ❤️
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@juneslater17
It's ok, you're just one person. Over 1 million people do drive electric cars and we'll have 600k HP installs by 2028, some of these are at National Trust properties in building much older than yours.
So you do you, and everyone else will crack on doing the right thing.
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When we first started driving EVs the UKs grid intensity was 441g CO2/kWh, meaning our EV was emitting 110g CO2/mile or 68g CO2/KM
Grid intensity has lowered drastically since then (2023 162gCO2/kWh) so last year driving an EV meant you'd have averaged approximately 40.5g
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@RichardWellings
Stroll on Richard, you should stick to whatever it is you do. We repair and maintain fleets of EVs and this statent is completely incorrect. You obviously don't know that a standard powertrian warranty on EV is 8-10 years 🤔 Of all the traction batteries I test, and I test a lot,
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Last night I said a hard goodbye to some great work friends and my career of over 20 years (a little later than planned due to having Covid 😔)
I now work for our amazing company
@Cleevely_Mobile
, along side some awesome, forward thinking people.
I can only describe my new
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Surely not. A diesel vehicle burns down a multistory carpark and shuts an airport.
The last 3 reports of EVs setting fire to ships, buses and carparks have all tuned out to have been ICE vehicles.
I wonder if we'll see some balanced reporting from
@TheSun
@DailyMailUK
Place
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Today, James and I joined the Cleevely family and became directors of
@Cleevely_Mobile
. A very forward thinking company who are all about EVs, so absolutely the best place for us to be. Thanks to all our customers for helping us grow so quickly and keeping us very very busy 🙏
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This Tesla MS traction battery has failed. The actual failure isn't a cell, module or connector, but this circuit board costing £20. These are readily available second hand, but diagnosis and replacement is tricky. Never the less, this is repaired, not scrap, not in landfill!!
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Our second MG5 went over 70,000 miles today, It's 16 months or 486 days old. Honestly, it's been 100% perfect. Considering the car and I generally work 5 days a week and I have holidays, it's still averaged 143 miles for every day we’ve owned it. Definitely no good for long
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If you drove an EV in 2012 your emissions would have been approx 78g CO2/km, using only grid electricity.
That's slightly cleaner than the best petrol cars available now. I've deliberately left out fuel production emissions.
If you drive an EV in 2023 your emissions will be
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We've been at the British Motor Show today.
Plenty of questions around EVs and what we do.
One big question and the obvious one, "how far does that thing go" looking at our MG5.
My new answer is "50,000 miles a year", that seemed to do the trick 😁
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Despite the potholes, replacement batteries, coal being burned, car parks collapsing and of course, Rowan Atkinson… the general consensus is, ‘we can make up our own minds’. It’s seems the media bias is falling on deaf/better informed ears.
The figures don’t lie 💁🏻♀️
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I can’t believe this was 3 years ago. I left an amazing job at JLR and really took a leap in to something with
@cleevelymotors
that could have amounted to nothing.
We now have 4 EV technicians (We’re still after a 5th btw 😉) on the road daily carry out between 45/50 jobs
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If you drive a combustion vehicle and think synthetic fuels are the answer, think again! This is the emissions from burning, yes, burning the fuel. To make 1 litre of eFuel takes up to 27.5kWh's of electricity, enough to move an EV 110 miles. Yeah, good luck with that.
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This will sell like hot cakes.
1, it’s a Golf
2, it will be efficient
3, the price 👌🏻
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@NigelXXX5
His intention was clear, but lacked any substance, so I’ve done it for him.
I think you mean ‘mower’ in your second question.
What is the embodied energy of this mower vs a B&S??
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Apparently I underestimated this by a long, long way. It will have in place enough capacity to charge 80 EVs at 150kWs. That’s extraordinary.
This is purely a guesstimation, but my poor counting skills says Exeter
@motoway
services will be getting 26 new HPC’s in the coming weeks. Fingers crossed 🤞🏼👌🏼
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I've just driven this 38kWh Hyundai Ioniq at 70mph for 141 miles and I still have 43 miles remaining. I'm pretty clued up on EVs but this, by my maths, isn't possible. It's managing 4.6mpkWh and it's 2 degrees. 🤷♂️
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The world said "We need EV's".
Most manufacturers said "Yeah, right".
The Chinese said "Hold my Baijiu" and start kicking out some of the best EV's at decent prices and the type of cars that we need and want. This one included.
I'm thinking at least 30% of EV sales in the
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Today our MG5 took us 335 miles for a total of £16. Put that in to today's diesel prices at 60mpg, you'll spend £56.30. My charge stop at Thurrock was 18 mins. I'll happily waste 18 mins for a £40 saving👌🏻
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Here's today's journey in our fully electric MG5. 318 miles.
I stopped once to rapid charge (19 mins), but here's the reality of the infrastructure had I needed more.
@OspreyCharging
- 27 options
@InstaVoltUK
- 38 options
@ElecHighway
- 28 options
That's 92 charge points
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With some rather inaccurate info doing the rounds it seems a balanced tweet is required. Electric vehicle brake regeneration saves huge amounts of brake wear, particulate pollution and ultimately, money. This is one our neighbours cars, an Audi, and one our heavier MG5 work vans.
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Remembering EVs are only good for local journeys because the infrastructure isn’t there yet, this is our mileage from last Monday morning until last night. I’ve added some of the longer days from our timeline.
I didn’t queue to charge anywhere during this week, all chargers
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LFP and rear wheel drive seem a great mix for EVs. Who’d have thought you can drive almost 200 miles on less energy than that stored in 1 gallon of fuel, and in an SUV. I won’t mention that all ICE vehicle will use more cobalt than this EV. I’ll get my coat 🤫
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Remember to keep your ev on local work only folks. I've only managed to travel just shy of 3000 miles over the past 13 days. They're just no good for the long stuff!
Total charging has amounted to £145 for this distance.
I'm standing by for the "5min refill/3000 miles/towing
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Folks, if your a
@Tesla
M3 owner and your AC just isn't cutting it, take a look under here. Completely blocked with leaves and brush. This is the AC condenser housing and ducting. A mains hoover with a crevice tool is required. The difference here was immediate.
Btw, we now do
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The MG5 does exactly what it says on the tin. I left Newcastle today with 93%, home with 9% and 21 miles remaining. This is the end of a 2100 mile, 13 day trip around Scotland. What a workhorse 👌
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For any of you that said "brakes", spot on!!!
Both rears calliper's pads and sliders had to be hammered out, rubbed down, greased and refitted.
It had one DTC for coolant temperature (historic)
I don't think this is a case of 'we'll make some money here', but more of 'we
Just looked at a Nissan Leaf 30kWh for an elderly customer in Kent. He was told that his car requires a replacement inverter and motor. He's been quoted over £8k for this and also told 'it may not fix the issue'.
The symptoms were, lack of power and a burning smell.
A motor
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One of our customers who runs a high mileage Model 3 as a taxi, has had an issue with cooling during charging and felt the range had dropped. One of our techs went out (where the arrow is) and cleaned out the AC intake ducting that was heavily blocked with leaves. The result,
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This cheap, Chinese EV has just gone through 125,000 miles.
We have one new additional to the list of replacement parts which so far amount to tyres, wipers and pollens filters. We've had to purchase a new charge port latch.
In case anyone is wondering, the traction battery
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UK grid emissions have dropped significantly over the past 12 years. So just how clean is an EV.
If we look at the lowest emission petrol car in the UK today, a Yaris hybrid, it emits 92g/CO2 per KM. Not bad compared to some, but lets look closer.
I'm ignoring fuel
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1. 6 1/2 month old electric car
2. 30,500 miles covered
3. Traction battery at 99.3% SOH
4. Front tyres at 4mm (Rotated)
5. Rear tyres at 7mm
6. Fully charged 5 days a week
7. Cost new £24,555 inc VAT
8. Cost to run to date £762.50
9. 100% the best tool for the job
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We have another new EV technician on the road.
This is Lee. He's ex-RAC and an ex-Tesla Ranger.
He'll be based near Brighton and will cover the surrounding areas.
😊
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@peterrhague
To be clear, I’m also a middle-aged white man from the same area as Lee. This isn’t disingenuous to this particular group, but this group are currently being embarrassed by people like him. We have an influx making us all look bloody stupid. We’re guilty by association.
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We'll have another EV tech on the road from 3rd September.
This is Chris. HV trained already, ex-RAC and previously a master tech at Nissan.
Chris will be covering the north of the country working from the Burnley area.
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@ArgyleBecky
I drink whilst working, I need to stay hydrated. He may have been out there for hours, and if he hadn't, where's the issue exactly?
There are much more pressing issues to tweet about, those being much more important than a copper having a brew whilst at work.
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Ok folks. I’m not happy to do this but… here’s the reason I’ll be cancelling my
@bppulseuk
subscription tonight!! You can see where I am. 8 machines, 4 hogged by vans not charging, 3 not working, app inop and no answer on the phone. This is no good for anyone. I’m outta here ☹️
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I'm as excited about the new MG4 as we were about our first Nissan Leaf. Here's the thing. The top spec MG4 is £1500 cheaper, goes 280 miles further, charges at 80kW's faster, has 4 years more warranty and loads more features. Good times ahead.
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1 year ago you would almost always queue here to charge. Things have changed. Now, during the evening rush, there are 7 spare units and no queing at all. The infrastructure has improved so much, so quickly, I never have to wait to plug-in. These high power chargers mean an 18
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A long day in the MG5, right off the back of 2 weeks and 2000 miles around Scotland. 343 miles covered, 4.5hrs working, 3 hours at home and 2 charge stops. As normal, nothing to talk about. Unless of course, you’re the
@BBC
@DailyMailUK
or one of the other completely out of touch
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We’ve purchased another MG5 for the mobile service. This one is destined for the south coast.
The reasons.
- Purchase costs are cheaper than an equivalent petrol or diesel, although prices are creeping back up again.
- reliability
- efficiency
- time off the road for
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Just remember folks, according to the UK media, electric cars;
Need 2.1 million miles to match an ICE cars CO2,
Are charged from coal,
Need new batteries after 3-5 years costing more than the vehicles value,
Don't work in the cold,
Create 1000x more brake particulates
Tesla Model Y is the 2023 best-selling car in 🇪🇺 Europe
A car that is 3-4 times more expensive than the
#2
Dacia Sandero.
Model Y is the only BEV in the top 20 list.
Facts beat FUD!
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Below are 2 pictures.
The first is the cost to run a diesel vehicle, averaging 50mpg, (above UK average) over 150,000 miles. This is taken from the linked website below.
The second is our annual charging cost (home and public) taken from Quickbooks. This is to run 3 electric
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I have discovered that nearly every middle - aged white man on here is;
- qualified in climatology
- qualified in vehicle maintenance
- qualified in meteorology
- qualified in EV maintenance
- qualified in H2 fuel cell tech
- qualified in emission science
- qualified in
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If you're an automaker and this car doesn't worry you, it really should. The MG4 has very few shortcomings and many positives, one being the 'bang for buck' factor that has been artificially removed by many other manufacturers. I really can't wait for ours to land 👌🏻
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Surely this should have be scrapped by now??
This
@Tesla
Model 3 that we regularly service has covered 175,000+ miles in 3 years. It’s had brakes pads and discs, tyres and a few suspension components, but nothing else. It’s almost like the batteries don’t fail every 3 years 🤷🏻♂️
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Competition time, folks. Who can get more than 3 litres of rainwater out of their Tesla Model 3 tailgate???
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Our 60000 mile Tesla still charges at its max of 120kWs, it's battery hasn't gone to landfill and it easily hits 220 miles from a charge, which, normally costs under £4 at home or is free on the
@Tesla
supercharger network. Think EVs are unreliable, think again 👍🏻
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The recent winter weather means it's costing us more to run our electric cars.
Normally we pay 1.8p/mile, but in these temperatures that's increased 2.2p/mile.
Sod that, I'm getting a diesel 😳
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These are great cars, but not faultless.
If you're thinking of buying a Tesla Model Y or Model 3, I'm popping a video together to show what to look out for.
We hope it helps and saves you some £££'s 👍🏼
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When we see a post telling us how it's more environmentally friendly to keep a 1993, 4L, petrol, RR on the road over buying an EV, we're going to question it.
It seems that when questioned on this the OP had no facts, wasn't interested in the facts and subsequently folded like
Maintaining old cars to last longer is more environmentally sound than buying gargantuan hefty EVs. Can I have a green number plate & cheaper road tax now?
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I was asked on the radio this morning how I felt about
@RishiSunak
’s backbone collapsing.
2030/2035/2040, it doesn’t have much effect.
The ban until yesterday was still over 6 years away, but EV sales were still rapidly increasing, both new, and more recently, second hand.
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@LeeHurstComic
Nah. ICE cars are more expensive to run, maintain and now, in most cases, they're more expensive to buy.
We have 6 EV service vehicles running around the UK, they save us an absolute fortune.
Stick to comedy
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Here's a regular customer of ours, a very high mileage user, now at 121,000 miles. Traction battery at 94% SOH, it's literally had tyres, pollen filters and wiper blades. Nissan seem to have improved their battery chemistry further with the 62kWh Leaf.
#nolandfill
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We have another new mobile EV technician on the road.
This is Ant. He's ex-RAC, completed his apprenticeship at Mercedes-Benz and finished his training with us yesterday.
He starts on his own from Monday and will be working the south of the country, so some of you will be
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