Cisalpine Heritage
@CisalpineSwag
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Evropean, Bell Beaker descendant (R1B gang) & raw milk enjoyer
Northern Italy
Joined November 2023
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What does "Celtic" mean? Can iron age British and Irish be considered Celts? A thread:
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Admixture map of France using academic samples from G25
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Admixture map of Germany using Academic Samples from G25 🇩🇪
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Admixture maps of modern day Spain and Portugal based on G25 coordinates using academic samples.
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Percentage of NW European DNA in modern day Europeans.
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As promised, genetic admixture maps of the British Isles. Keep in mind that the 3 populations that gave birth to modern day British and Irish were closely related, so there’s a bit of overlap. These maps however are as accurate as possible now, after multiple attempts.
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Western Steppe Herder (Proto-IndoEuropean) Admixture in modern Western Europeans. Map made by me using my brand new calculator, it should be as accurate as possible now.
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According to a 2019 study, "Population structure of modern-day Italians reveals patterns of ancient and archaic ancestries in Southern Europe", Italians can be modeled as a combination of ABA, SBA, and European_N populations. Here's the maps I made using modern regional averages
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Ancestral admixture maps of modern day Italians 🇮🇹
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To me the whole Med vs Alpine vs Nordic has always been a dumb war between brothers. All Europeans are brothers, we all come from the same 3 populations (WSH, EEF and WHG) so we’re literally the same people, we might differ culturally but we’re brothers genetically. Accept it.
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Map of Iron Age Cisalpine Celtic AutosomalDNA.
Courtesy of REGENALDVM
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Updated Northern Italian genetic maps.
Courtesy of REGENALDVM
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Admixture map of Hallstatt and LaTene derived ancestry (Celtic) in modern day Northern and Central Italians.
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Ancient European Admixture among modern day Italians. Please don’t make me silence the comments.
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I love it when some of you try to convince me that "Italian" is an ethnicity.
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New genetic study on Iron Age Northern Italy.
Modern day northern Italians can be modeled as 55% Iron Age northern Italy (Italo-Celtic), 25% East Med (Greco-Roman) and 20% Germanic.
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Men belonging to these haplogroups have a 100% chance of stealing your girlfriend. And your land. And your cattle. And literally replace your language cause it’s lame af.
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Western Hunter-Gatherer admixture in modern day Italians.
(Swiss Italian and Bergamo scored both 5-10%)
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People often confuse the terms United Kingdom, British Isles and Britain. Here's a simple map to clear things up
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Closer to Belgians and Austrians than to Calabrians and Sicilians, but sure, classify my ethnicity as “Italian”.
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Closest modern populations to British and Irish bronze age Bell Beakers
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New post on the genetic and cultural impact of Continental Celts on the British Isles might be coming soon. Any thoughts?
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Weekly reminder that "Celtic" is also undoubtedly an ethnic term. Wake up people, Central European celts, Gauls, Belage, Britons, Gaels, Alpine celts, we're cousins. Extremely closely related too. R1B supremacy.
Accept it and move on.
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Woke up like this lol
Won’t even bother answering but it’s honestly sickening. I’m here to spread informations that’s all.
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Genetic breakdown of Britain & Ireland Bronze Age Bellbeakers and Iron Age celts
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Memes like these are so dumb man I swear.
🇮🇹 Italy -> Italy 🇮🇹
🇪🇸 Spain -> Spain 🇪🇸
🇵🇹 Portugal -> Portugal 🇵🇹
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Cisalpine Gauls from the Study "Origin and Mobility Patterns on Both Sides of the Alps During the Late Iron Age".
Admixture and comparison with modern day Northern Italians.
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Average beta Twitter user:
"Yeah Rome founded lots of colonies in Northern Italy and the Celts got replaced by italics and levantines. Northern Italians mainly descend from the Romans and Etruscans."
Average chad genetics enjoyer:
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The Celts were a collection of Indo-European peoples, identified by their use of Celtic languages and other cultural similarities.Major Celtic groups included the Gauls, the Celtiberians and Gallaeci of Iberia, the Britons, Picts, and Gaels of the British Isles.
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My takes on the Bologna Necropolis study
1) Genomic data confirms the presence of a significant number of individuals with a non-local genetic profile
compatible with the arrival of populations from central and northern Europe.
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Early Bronze Age insular Bell Beakers vs Modern day Irish, Scottish and Welsh.
Hallstatt/LaTene continental signal is well present, so this meme is funny, but historically and genetically inaccurate 🤷♂️
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-Emilia Romagna is Celtic
-Not all of Spain is Celtic
-Southern Italy is Greek
-Croatia is not Germanic (?)
What Europe should look like; a Union of tribes, all under their respective (ethno-)religious banners.
No more globalist Semitic ideal where "Christ is king," but tribal factions where our Ancestors are king.
Respect, love, nurture and fight for your Kin and Nature. Be filial.
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The Celto-Ligurians: A thread.
1/ In pre-Roman times, the Ligurians occupied the present-day Italian region of Liguria, Piedmont, northern Tuscany, western Lombardy, western Emilia.
Because of the strong Celtic influences on their language, DNA and culture, they were also known
Closest modern populations (+ an impostor lol) and genetic breakdown of a Celto-Ligurian proxy made by me. This proxy is 50% Gaul and 50% raethian-italic, so it's probably the closest thing we have that resembles what Iron Age Northern Italy would've looked like.
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Closest modern populations (+ an impostor lol) and genetic breakdown of a Celto-Ligurian proxy made by me. This proxy is 50% Gaul and 50% raethian-italic, so it's probably the closest thing we have that resembles what Iron Age Northern Italy would've looked like.
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Please understand it’s satire but it was way too hilarious not to share 😂💀
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Admixture model for modern day northern italians.
-Cisalpine Iron Age: Cenomani Celts and alpine Raethians
-Imperial Med: Mycenaean and Roman settlers
-Germanic/Slavic: Iron Age Russia and Scandinavia
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“But Celtic is a cultural term, it’s not an ethnicity” 💀😂
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Let me clarify this: Bavarians are Germanic. They have 25-30% Germanic DNA, which is a substantial chunk of ancestry. Like Scots and Irish are celts, despite having 20-30% Hallstatt Celtic admixture, which is 100% significant. They’re both cultural and ethnic terms, nothing new.
Admixture map of Germany using Academic Samples from G25 🇩🇪
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Most of you don't know this but I'm actually part Irish, my 2x great grandfather was adopted, he was from Fermanagh, and my grandmother often described him as red haired and blue eyed . Hence why I always score a little Insular Celtic. Fascinating.
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So are the Welsh, Scots and Irish celts? Of course they are: they share a culture incredibly similar to the one that developed by continental celts, they spoke (or still speak) a celtic language and share a significant amount of DNA from Gaul. What else would they be?
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The average northern Italian is 70% Celto-Germanic and 30% Roman
#themoreyouknow
Admixture model for modern day northern italians.
-Cisalpine Iron Age: Cenomani Celts and alpine Raethians
-Imperial Med: Mycenaean and Roman settlers
-Germanic/Slavic: Iron Age Russia and Scandinavia
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Me: northern Italians are not Nordic by any means, they’re a west-med and alpine population, as they overlap with southern French and Iberians.
X user: you’re not Nordic lmao what are you saying idiot
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Italians from Liguria have approximately 25% Caledonian admixture from Scotland guys! The more you know 🤷♂️
@CisalpineSwag
@NonAugusto
celts had z e r o influence on the entirety of Italy, there is no admixture whatsoever except for a literal 2.2% in TRENTINO
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Admixture map of Italo-Celtic DNA in modern day Italians and Corsicans. Proto-Italo-Celts are believed to be present in the Italian Peninsula since the Late Bronze Age, with the Canegrate, Golasecca and Proto-Villanovan cultures.
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Closest modern populations to La Tene alpine celts
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Me: northern Italy was settled by Celtic tribes since the Bronze Age, they’re not invaders and they’re the major component of northern Italian ancestry.
X user: you’re not Germanic and you’ll never be, get over it!
Why do you hate southern Italians so much?
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Ancestry change over time in Britain & Ireland.
Present-day people from Britain & Ireland harbour more EEF DNA than people of the Early Bronze Age. Between 1000–875, EEF ancestry increased due to incorporation of migrants who were genetically similar to ancient Gauls.
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The relation between ethnicity, language and culture in the Celtic world is debated. But every single celtic people does have something in common in genetic terms: they're all majority bell beaker derived and all of them share a consistend % of Hallstatt/LaTene derived ancestry.
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So what does it mean to be "Celtic"? Shared culture and religion, almost mutually unintelligible languages, shared Urnfield, Hallstatt and Latene admixture during Bronze/Iron Age and ultimately coming from the same primary stock: the Bell Beakers.
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Please never mention Cisalpine Gaul again, thank you.
Working on a Gladiator OC, a slave from Cisalpine Gaul who gains local acclaim playing an "authentic barbarian" in the arena. OFC, hes a piggy :3 🐗🐖
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Model made by me inspired by the study.
New genetic study on Iron Age Northern Italy.
Modern day northern Italians can be modeled as 55% Iron Age northern Italy (Italo-Celtic), 25% East Med (Greco-Roman) and 20% Germanic.
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Admixture of the new Hallstatt sample from Southern Germany. French, Swiss, Iberian and Northern Italian-like.
Evidence for dynastic succession among early Celtic elites in Central Europe. A few observations ⬇️
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Bell beaker supremacy! Western Europe united 💪
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Here’s my chest workout for those who asked:
-enter the gym
-make sure there’s no girls in the weight room
-bench 100kg (225lbs)
-get out the gym
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Why is it always Italian-Americans that try to deny northern Italians Celtic and Germanic heritage? How can someone still consider haplogroups only when talking about genetic admixture? I can’t make this up y’all
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It is clear that someone misunderstood my maps. I never claimed them to be the absolute academic truth, I just have fun mapping and making models as historically accurate as possible using G25. It’s wild to me that some of you have been calling me names in my DMs
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Northern italy should be an independent nation with its own government, laws, jurisdiction and parliament. I’m ready. Roast me.
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Chart from Patterson et al 2021 modified by arguably my favorite historian and content creator,
@Tom_Rowsell
, showing the increase in EEF ancestry in LBA Britain caused by Proto-Celtic migrants from Gaul.
This coincides with the end of round barrows in Britain.
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@owen_mccor
Yes, Celtic and Germanic have always been a mix of culture and ethnic terms so it makes sense if you think about it. Also, IA cisalpine is different from pure Celtic DNA, is Ligurian, Celtic and Etruscan/Raethian. Germany has always been Celto-Germanic. Scandinavia was Nordic.
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Awful list 💯
My top 10 ethnicities (ranked)
1. Palestinians
2. Nigerians
3. Guyanese
4. Pakistanis
5. Dominicans
6. Mexicans
7. Ivorians
8. Jamaicans
9. Yemenis
10. Puerto Ricans
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@uberboyo
Idk where to begin tbh. The WHG who got assimilated by the EEF were nothing like the steppe herders who later came to Europe. Rome was far from an abomination. It conquered the whole known world and CREATED the Western culture as we know it today.
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To whom it may concern:
Closest modern populations to British and Irish bronze age Bell Beakers
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Closest celtic populations to Northern Italians.
Ethnic cleansing? Genocide? 🤥
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Etruscans in the po valley intermixed with golasecca culture celts (genetically similar to Etruscans) and created the core Celtic population of northern Italy. The Gauls came in the fifth century and got assimilated with them like they did in all of Western Europe. We wuz celts.
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Ain’t no way 💀
How do I define "European"?
1. Blue or grey eyes
2. Fair skin
3. Blonde hair (from light to dark blonde ["light brown", if you like)
4. "Math bump" in the back of the head
5. Same upper & lower arm/leg ratio as Neanderthals
Other features are a result of non-European admixture.
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Thanks for coming to my ted talk! Feel free to let me know your opinion in the comments and ask questions if you feel like it!
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@BornLik23266
Phenotype and Haplogroups are not correlated by any means. Autosomal DNA is what determines your appearance not your Y-DNA
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Many of these were mixed individuals, others fully celtic.
Cisalpine Gauls from the Study "Origin and Mobility Patterns on Both Sides of the Alps During the Late Iron Age".
Admixture and comparison with modern day Northern Italians.
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Most present-day Germans fall between the Hallstatt and early medieval southern German clusters, suggesting a resurgence of EEF-enriched ancestry, especially in southern Germany. This is also indicated by uniparental Y-chromosome evidence.
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Is the cure to male depression beef & eggs + raw milk?
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XVII century map of Northern Italy, described as Gallic Italy and Cisalpine Gaul, by Abraham Ortelius.
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@Behemmoth_h
Austria is mostly Celtic with a Roman-Germanic superstratum in the west and a Germanic-Slavic one in the east.
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It’s wild to me that I have to explain to people that northern Italy was settled by Celtic tribes since the dawn of time
@DyeusMitUns
@ylavura
Wrong. Celts were present in northern Italy since the Golasecca and Canegrate culture of the Late Bronze Age. Plus they invaded northern Italy in the 5th century BC. Northern Italy was named Cisalpine Gaul by the Romans and our dialects are called gallo-romance languages
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Many of these individuals look mixed, most Etruscans had 20-25% steppe.
Looks like Etruscan women definently got busy with some Alpine Gaul stud.
Model of the new Etruscan samples. TTQ11 is closets to Swedes while rest Northern Italians.
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From the Telegram Channel “European Autosomal Genetics”
Proto-Celtic languages might’ve been brought to Germany and Western Europe from the alpine heartland.
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Rank your top5 civilizations of all time.
Here’s my list:
1) Rome 🥇
2) British Empire 🥈
3) Greece 🥉
4) Achaemenid empire
5) Celts in general cause I’m biased
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When it’s Saturday morning and life hits you with the countryside farmer market + sunny day combo. Have a great weekend bʰréh₂tērs!
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Check it out! Unbelievable channel and 10/10 video, can’t wait for the cisalpine Gaul video 👀
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@suso_car
Nah not really, outside of Corsica and Provence ( 26% and 9% ) the rest of France wasn’t really affected much by Rome colonization
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@istvaeonic
Not really, Germany is a diverse country, northern Germany is the more "Nordic" one, but the south is still fairly celtic with a germanic superstratum.
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I’ve heard this too many times and now it’s time to settle this dispute: who can be considered white? In genetic terms. Please explain who and why in the comments. I’ll be glad to hear everyone’s opinion.
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Basic info about me:
Age: 25
Nationality: 🇮🇹
Height: 5’10
Language: Italian, Lombard, English, Spanish, French
Political ideology: won’t say on X
Religion: Christian
Sexuality: straight
Basic info about me:
Age: 17
Nationality: 🇺🇸
Height: 6 foot 4
Language: English
Political ideology: NatSoc
Religion: Perennialist
Sexuality: straight
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If i didn't do a DNA test
My suspicion would be :
🇬🇷 50 %
🇺🇦 30 %
🇰🇬 20 %
Actually this is near to the reality and this is what i used to think two years ago, before i do my DNA test.
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Iron Age England, Cornwall and Wales were more Hallstatt/LaTene shifted than you'd think.
Early Bronze Age insular Bell Beakers vs Modern day Irish, Scottish and Welsh.
Hallstatt/LaTene continental signal is well present, so this meme is funny, but historically and genetically inaccurate 🤷♂️
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