@CeciliaZin So verbatim has been patched in an attempt to obfuscate its capability to infringe. Does this solve the issue?

@Blanketman_01 Lawyer answer – it depends. I’m working on a thread on fair use here. It’s a four factor, squishy, some would say liberal artsy test. Notoriously difficult to predict.

@CeciliaZin Arguably, if you paste copyrighted material in - in order to prompt completion... who has agency of the doing in this case?

@ThomasODuffy It’s a good question. The Betamax case is where the court will look here. The conclusion was just because some people use VCRs for copyright infringement, doesn’t cancel out the “substantial noninfringing uses” of the technology. In that case, it was time shifting to watch TV…

@CeciliaZin Interestingly, even if you use custom instructions to prod GPT into reciting the material, it looks like there might also be a new(?) system that flags outputs.

@NickEMoran Oh wow, good find. Interestingly, the OpenAI content policy does not specifically call out copyright infringement, although it does prevent use of the models for illegal activity.

@CeciliaZin "It´s not a crime if I am not doing it anymore...see?"

@ogavelar 😂

@CeciliaZin Did they change just for NYT content or all media?

@Cryptoverse520 I tried with a few different types of content like a famous blogger’s. Folks are saying that you can get verbatim with the API and the temperature down. But that’s an edge case compared to off-the-shelf GPT.

@CeciliaZin You have to use the API and set temperature to 0.

@CeciliaZin Long verbatim outputs can currently still be extracted using the API, matching Exhibit J

@CeciliaZin One thing I'm wondering is since ChatGPT is still in research couldn't OAI claim fair use for educational purposes?

@CeciliaZin Fair use, kids. Without it progress in fields like architecture, space exploration, the development of the internet, and advancements in medicine and technology would have been hindered. Fair use allows for the use of copyrighted material under certain conditions, fostering an…

@CeciliaZin Isn’t that the most amateurish thing to do at this stage?

@CeciliaZin And AI just got much less useful. Won't be long now, and it wont be very interesting at all

@CeciliaZin It's stark except for the fact that nobody can actually reproduce those prompts without adding lines like "please give me the first paragraph" which means the lawyers almost certainly didn't include the entire prompt. I find it seriously improbable that other papers have tried to…

@CeciliaZin This idea of papering over these problems with tuning is just going to result in these models saying "sorry I can't do that" for every request lol. This is not the way

@CeciliaZin If ChatGPT went the other way and only provided verbatim excerpts, it would be unusable. The basic use case is transformation, not derivation.

@CeciliaZin What were the prompts used in the first place. That is the question we all want to know.