i havent heard any anti arguments that cant be refuted with another or that have convinced me that pro shipping is actually wrong, because almost every argument i see is “THATS GROSS EWWW YOU SHOULD 🔑S” thats not an argument, if you say that, im not going to listen to you.
big brother that is constantly forcing lil bro's diaper off just so he can keep licking his cunny because hes addicted to how soft and sweet it is in his mouth
i hate that paraphilas have become synonymous with “sexual abuser” in modern language. its a mental illness, its no fucking wonder people have to come up with new terms like “MAP” because “p€d0ph1le” is demonized and recognized as an action rather then an illness
@DoeSparkle
why do they do that? is it different in other states? when i was trained for retail i was told to never confront anyone i belived was shoplifting (and tbh i didn’t fucking care lmao) but even so we were told that its dangerous to confront someone so;, why? do they do that?
if you want refute it with your own points, and most of all, have compassion. remember we are all human. what we tend to forget with how polarized the internet has become as that we’re all complex individual people. im not gonna say im not guilty of this,
puppy gets sick to the point where they need to go to the hospital, asks to make them better, just for the doctor to come in and sedate them and puppy wakes up feeling dizzy and full 😵💫
i want to make a document compiling all the arguments i see and refuting them as a kind of resource, and if someone comes up with an argument that actually persuades me, i am open to changing my mind. there needs to be more than disgust and hate. otherwise youre just a bully
just saw someones strawpage that said "proship dni" but also "antis that harrass proshippers minding their own business dni" and i just thought that was super awesome
that doesnt get anywhere. you present your case with the intent of persuading one another. thats how its supposed to work. you do research, back up your argument with sources, you need to actually listen and acknowledge what the other person is saying
@specsaroni
its almost like women are fully capable of thinking for themselves and some women have kinks for that because theyre people and sometimes people have kinks
@UnholyViewerFr
@space_concrete
like proshippers literally created the definition of proship how are they gonna tell US what the word means when THEY didnt even define it?
@UnholyViewerFr
@space_concrete
ohh yeah obviously, its because we’re predators despite literally trying everything we can do to keep minors out of our spaces like blocking and tagging content, but we are obviously the bad people here because all we do is sit in our little corner and draw freaky shit
@DoeSparkle
this!! i looove singing so much and i dont think itd ever be something i did for money or for anyone else honestly, i may have no idea what im doing, and there may not be an ounce of musical talent in me but i still love doing it it makes me feel good
i think its safe to assume that most of the people in the anti movement know that trans people arent those things, which shows that you cant just accuse people of being things without any evidence to back it up, thats exactly what the alt right does to minorities.
@UnholyViewerFr
@space_concrete
this is such a good explanation on what proshipping is and that actually represents the definition weve been so desperately trying to explain, i really wish antis could understand this instead of going “NUH UH IT MEANS PROBLEMATIC SHIP”
it creates a divide. if you want to be taken seriously, if you genuinely care about survivors and genuinely believe that your views are moral and worth spending your time on, i encourage you to do it properly, a debate isnt yelling at eachother and spewing insults,
almost every argument i see against proshipping is just that, the regurgitation of alt right arguments being molded to fit their own, or baseless accusations and insults. bullying survivors over their coping mechanisms isnt how you get us to stop. it just creates resentment.
anyone could make accusations and say mean things about anyone over anything. hell, we are seeing that right now, with how trans people are being treated in the current political climate, we’re called “disgusting”, “dangerous”, “ped0philes”, “freaks”, and “gr00mers”.
im sure everyone has had moments where we forget that the other person were talking to isnt just images and text on a screen. but you should remember that you dont know these people from just the glimpses you see online, thats quite literally impossible.