
Arjun R Pillai
@rarjunpillai
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Cofounder/CEO https://t.co/gS8lo8zJgE | CDO @ZoomInfo | | 2/2 Exits | fmr Founder/CEO @Insent (acq. by ZI) | @FullContact | fmr Founder/CEO @Profoundis (acq. by FullContact)
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Joined August 2009
Here is another demo of Docket, this time, a quick peek into the latest release - Conversational AI Sales Engineer for B2B Sales! Docket started as an answering engine. Like how an AE can ask questions to a sales engineer, they could ask questions to Docket and get an accurate
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The math is brutal: You're paying $45+ per lead, scoring them with outdated rules, then watching SDRs burn through garbage "opportunities" that convert at 2-3%. That's not marketing. That's expensive hope.
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This is a snippet from the conversation I've had with Steve on my podcast. Steve spent 7 years at Google and now runs his own agency, which is why he understands this game better than anyone else.
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Me: That makes so much sense... Steve: The goal should be building a database, not trying to fill a funnel with fake opportunities.
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Take it through an account-based lens where you're looking at - the account, - the people within the account, - their behavior, - their demographics, - their firmographics. Get smarter about who you want to talk to, when, and what you say.
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Me: So what's the alternative? Steve: Reframe it. If you're buying syndication leads, you're not buying opportunities. Instead, you're buying a database that you can actually market intelligently.
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Steve: You're lucky if you can get 2-3% of content syndication leads to turn into opportunities. You're essentially flooding the system with inefficiency by investing in humans to call in and qualify a massive volume of low-quality leads that marketing is spending a lot of money
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Steve: That's the problem. Marketing talks to a lead gen vendor who says, "I'll give you 10,000 leads at $45 a pop, put them in your nurture, and those will turn into opportunities." Marketers think this is the easiest ROI. Me: And it's not?
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Steve: If you are buying leads, scoring them with a dated system, and then sending them to sales, I can almost guarantee right now 50% of that activity is inefficiently wasted budget. Me: But everyone's doing it 👀
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Me: What's the biggest inefficiency you see in go-to-market today? Steve Armenti: The whole lead-to-MQL model is done. Me: Wait, what? That's like the foundation of most marketing teams. 🧵
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That's pretty much it Don't complicate B2B sales & marketing
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4/ Do you have 1 - 3 sustainable channels where you can reach prospects, or where prospects can find you?
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3/ Is your messaging bridging the gap between what your product solves and the promised land for your ICP?
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