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Trainee psychiatrist/Researcher @NELFT @UCLPsychiatry (visiting) . Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines: https://t.co/MdD00q9Yd1 (US) https://t.co/9eUVpPj52p (UK)

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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
4 days
The review by Kalfas on antidepressant withdrawal in JAMA Psychiatry will mislead as it is based largely on people who have taken antidepressants for 8-12 weeks in 11 RCTs-this will under-estimate the risks for millions of long-term users. Thread (1/n)
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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"However, psychiatrists, psychologists and patients have widely criticised the study due to its reliance on short-term clinical trials lasting only 8-12 weeks. The reality is that people most often use antidepressants for years.".
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HG
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Psychiatrists accused of 'cosplaying science' in a misleading study on antidepressant withdrawal. ➡️Relies on 8-12wk studies and ignores harmed patients. ➡️ 11/19 authors funded by BigPharma. Me for @TheCanaryUK. Comments from @markhoro and @JDaviesPhD.
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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– for everyone to relapse at the same moment would be a wild co-incidence! In contrast Kalfas study relied on 5 studies using spontaneous adverse effect reporting (known to under-estimate and miss symptoms) versus this systematic simultaneous measurement in Rosenbaum 5/n.
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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but this is implausible for depression conceived as a relapsing, remitting condition with each person having a typical time between episodes….(4/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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This is entirely consistent with withdrawal effects including depressive symptoms. Some will argue this means that withdrawal and depression both happening at same time….(3/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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It showed a large increase in depressive symptoms, driven by a rise in withdrawal symptoms, which completely resolves, along with the w/d symptoms, when antidepressants are restarted after a week. Picture – b=sertraline, c=paroxetine. DESS=withdrawal, MADRS/HRSD = depression(2/n)
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Another prob with Kalfas study is the idea that any worsening in mood must be relapse not withdrawal.This is countered by much better evidence in the Rosenbaum study which usefully measured withdrawal effects AND depression scores whilst drugs were stopped and then re-started1/n
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Rosenbaum 1998:
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Sertraline withdrawal caused overall functional impairment. In other words, clear evidence of much greater effects of withdrawal after longer term treatment (6/n)
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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For sertraline, 42.4% of people worsened when stopping, 6.1% when continuing their drug. In this study paroxetine withdrawal caused work impairment, relationship problems, decreased overall function and social activities – already in 4 days. (5/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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When stopping paroxetine 57.1% of patients worsened on a modified DESS scale, 5.7% of people who continued. Measured after just 4 days. Symptoms still increasing (4/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Other studies have found near identical results. Michelson (2000) – ‘included’ in Kalfas study, but did not contribute data to the main analysis. 13.5 -15.9 months of drug use before stopping. (3/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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It shows that 1 week after stopping paroxetine the average increase in DESS was 7.7. For the group who continued the increase was 0. The SMD is 1.5 (5-fold more than what Kalfas found in short-term studies). (2/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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People have been reasonably asking are there any high-quality studies of wirthdrawal from longer term use. Rosenbaum (1998) is very well conducted. It was ‘included’ in the Kalfas review but not in the main analysis. It meets criteria to do so.(1/n).
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
23 hours
There are no randomised trials showing a relationship between cigarettes smoked and lung cancer - these are based on surveys. A survey is a reasonable way to see a duration-response effect and it was strong and backed up by other studies. odd to argue against really.
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Sameer Jauhar
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Citing. survey data. This is why we put together the evidence.
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
23 hours
Thinking of agomelatine: only antidepressant without a withdrawal syndrome. Only antidepressants to show no 'relapse prevention' properties in discontinuation trials (where withdrawal and relapse are not distinguished). Co-incidence?
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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RT @PsychotropicDC: Presenting a WEBINAR:. Hyperbolic tapering tips: Barriers and enablers.with Mark Horowitz, MBBS, PhD.lead author of the….
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Now argues there is no relationship between duration of use and withdrawal from ADs. Means taking them for 1 day or 10 years makes no diff + can be stopped in the same way. OK then. Also 60%+ withdrawal rates in this study did not make it into his paper.
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Sameer Jauhar
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The authors found no relationship between duration of prior antidepressant treatment, as stated quite long, and discontinuation symptoms. drugs stopped abruptly. you suggested we missed this, we did not. You like the study, the findings disagree with your premise. Shanti.
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Appropriately skeptical reception of the JAMA study down under: "A large systematic review of research into the process of withdrawing from the drugs was published this week, but it quickly faced backlash from some psychiatrists and experts."
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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Entirely predictable. I have heard similar from another friend's parent. If the risks of withdrawal are unjustifiably downplayed for long term users and guidance to taper carefully undermined by this paper and its press release then people will be exposed to unnecessary harm.
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ScriptoTakai
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@markhoro @ConversationUK Thank you. I know someone who, after skimming the news about this study, planned to stop cold turkey after over 10 years on these meds. Probably not a good idea.
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Mark Horowitz @markhoro.bsky.social
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I don't understand what Dr Lewis means here by 'similar'? In ANTLER they found an SMD of 0.98 for sertraline, 0.52 for citalopram, 0.51 for fluoxetine at 12 weeks, and SMD of 0.41 at 7 months for all. Much more common and long-lasting than Kalfas. Quite different after l-t use.
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Dr Gemma Lewis
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Our new review on antidepressant withdrawal led by @kalfas_michael @sameerjauhar . Estimates similar to ANTLER trial where ~75% had been on antidepressants for >3 years & were followed for 12 months . Variability around this estimate - 3% of people experience severe withdrawal.
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