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            @c__lillian
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               Lagos is not a real place mehn. Tanker that fell at chisco busstop since morning, they’ve not carried it till this time 😭😭😭 
          
                
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             I am tired of these consent convos on CT. It's obvious we are competing with the world in depravity as Christians, which should never be. What have we been teaching in Churches all these years? Christians showing so much ignorance about the tenets of our faith and calling on 
          
                
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             Some of your brethren are paying the ultimate price for their faith while you are busy fighting for the right to premarital coitus. 
          
                
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             This "teach consent in church" mania is a subtle analogue of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. 
          
                
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             God forbid 
          
              @c__lillian @MindsetWarlord I mean, the gospel isn't getting the job done (it never could anyways) so they might as well try something else for a change
            
          
                
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             Wait please. Single Christians can kiss and touch but you draw the line at fornication. Consent is needed for kissing and touching. You complained few days ago about the conduct of Christian men and now you’re saying this. I can’t believe this o 
           Single christians need to learn about consent too. Consent isn’t just about sex. It should be duly applied before establishing any form of physical connection. Ie kissing (for those who insist on doing that), cuddling, dancing closely or giving pecks on the cheek. It 
          
                
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             If the Bible already teaches purity, why do we need to teach consent? If people truly follow Scripture, they won’t violate boundaries. But the truth is: some people claim Christ but do not act like Him. The Bible has not failed. Their obedience has. 
          
                
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             That last line is worthy of note. If the gospel can’t change a man from being a pedophile, neither will teaching him consent 
          
              @Lightgang_ @c__lillian God has given us choices Many Christian men who sexually abuse women choose to twist the gospel to support their perversion. Knowledge of the Gospel will not change a man from being a paedophile or a sexual offender.
            
          
                
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             I really dislike this Vashti narrative. The king held a party for everyone, Vashti held a party for the women in the kingdom. Why? The king called her and she declined. The queen declined in front of the women, in front of everyone. That was a national disgrace. 
           The case for Vashti I finished reading the book of Esther a few days ago and made some comments to my wife Summary is, I don't think Vashti was in the wrong We've been taught traditionally that Vashti was proud, and that was why her position was taken away from her My pastor, 
          
                
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             Saying that Christian men rape their wives is not even a good reason to teach consent. If these men can’t obey the word of God, is it consent they’ll hear and adhere to? 
          
                
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             You people always want the church to teach everything except the word of God 
          
                
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             It is clearly stated out in scriptures. Cassy as a Christian, is the Bible not enough to be adhered to? Do we need external principles to support the bible? 
          
                
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             Consent being addressed as you have said does not mean that all who attended the counseling would adhere to it. If people can’t obey the word of God, is it a teaching on consent that will be the solution? There is a way married people are meant to behave towards each other 
           Interesting seeing that when I, in fact, attended the 3 months marriage counselling in my church, they had a sex therapist and a gynaecologist address sex relationships between married couples and consent was addressed and explicitly discussed. 
          
                
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             You don't get it bro. Some people actually don't have anything against fornication, they just want "brother wolves" to know that on the day they aren't in mood to fornicate; no is no. People that are fighting to spend a night in brother's house? There's a deeper motive... 
           I have a very simple question for you, please answer: Is it possible to rape someone without fornicating? We drew the line 500,000 KM ahead of rape—we drew it at feeding lust of any kind, including consensual fornication. So again I ask you—can you rape if you don’t fornicate? 
          
                
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            @iamsamwonders The church is not the mouthpiece of the land. We speak for the Lord. But even if you want to be pragmatic, truth here is, if they obey the law of the Lord they won't have to worry about the law of the land. So, why not stick to teaching the law of the Lord, as we should?
          
          
                
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             They’ve turned Halloween to costume day, as if it’s not a day to celebrate the dead. At least find out the origin of Halloween and why it was started. 
          
                
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             Are you even remotely okay? You will come and delete it. Look at this person trying to use “pride is a sin” to manipulate me. Liar 
          
              @c__lillian Stop trying to wriggle your way out of the bs statement you made, better you go delete that rubbish and just say I'm sorry I was wrong. Pride is a sin you know. Foolishness is also a disease.
            
          
                
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