Soyeon haters really grasping at straws now after I prove she’s a good rapper 🤣🤣🤣
“She’s talking fast with rhythm”… yeah, that’s how you rap. You want her to not have rhythm? 🤡
I was asked to also do Soyeon's flow in Sculpture, so here's Sculpture vs. Dark (X-File) to compare the difference.
Now to make a video explaining the difference.
(Both have cool stuff going on, but Dark is definitely the more complex idea)
#SOYEON
#GIDLE_Nxde
I know I know, this is a random twitter stan just hyping up thier newly debuted fave but.. Asa's entire rap;
Bar 1-4 (Soyeon - Psycho same flow).
Bar 5 & 6 (Giselle - Girls same flow).
Bar 7 (UNIQUE and hopeful for Asa's future style)
Bar 8 (Psycho but for half a bar).
I've had quite a few comments & people ask about this already so, here's (G)I-DLE's flows for WIFE;
I'll put some of my thoughts in the tweet below this one...
Soyeon's "Vision" rap is probably her best on the album ... here's the flow for that.
Spaced triplets with ending variety, then flow change into groupings of "4".. first a diddle into an offbeat dotted 8th, then 8th ... and then a subtle change into "Suga Flow".
Can we take a minute to truly appreciate how lucky we are to have Soyeon in Kpop writing her OWN RAPS? Haters gonna hate, but there's no denying when she has creative freedom, it's so much more interesting than the cookie cutter stuff ghost writers do...
When she doesn't write:
1. Why would you write the rap flow in 6/16 when the song is written in 4/4? The song doesn’t have a 6/16 feel
2. Ye cause drumline music is two sticks on a drum rather than a single mouth. It’s not a fair comparison
3. Lmao but it’s a large component of rapping? You even said so
Cause they aren’t triplet runs. You can do the rhythm of triple and rest on certain notes to make it not sound like a triplet. Here, Soyeon is using a triplet to create a shuffle feel. That’s why it’s so damn cool & creative.
If you doubt my transcription, please try it yourself
@jjkdivine
I don't hear any crazy rapping in both the songs. If you have the need to compare, at least get songs which have a similar tempo and flow. Also some notations are shown as triplets, which I don't hear in the actual song
Vs. When she writes & has full creative freedom to dictate her flow.
Like, most GG raps in Kpop are like "Flip it"... but SY's progressing this flow, in 4 bars, into offbeat 16ths. She's literally insane and this comeback should help everyone appreciate how good she is...
You can entirely hype up Asa and show her respect as the possible GG leader of 5th gen rapping without having to put down already established & well-accomplished idols. Don't do that to her while not knowing what you're talking about.
The last two Soyeon releases being;
- Dry producer written raps with no personality
- A song they could’ve used nearly any other idol for because Soyeon didn’t even rap
has literally broke me 🥲. Why’re these Kpop execs forgetting she’s one of the best rapper & producers?
Why do antis hold Soyeon to a standard so high? Like, I think that’s actually praise in itself 😂
It amazes me they cherry pick tomboy (which again, for a Kpop standard did its job) and use “English” as a parameter for a …. *KOREAN* rapper like 🥴
She raps in Korean, Japanese and Chinese, she only struggles with English, wich having an accent in a language that isn’t your first is completely normal, but the xenophobia is bigger on u guys, the fact that y’all use just one rap to dismiss her career specially an english one +
@GraveDBD
Yes. Exactly. Wish everyone would stop blaming perks & BHVR just overtune EVERYTHING. If there are 35 OP perks on both sides, there’d be so much variety… then add in a “barebones” perkless mode as a 2nd game mode for people who don’t wanna deal with the annoyance of the perks
Dear fans of Kpop:
I know award season is approaching, and relations between fandoms are high, but this is your friendly reminder that it is NOT okay nor acceptable to threaten the life of someone else due to different opinions of music.
@JimMooreUSA
@jasrifootball
Are you new to Football or something? Butker is literally on the opposite side of the field. They both take kicks to both field goals to warm up.
How the Chief's "Stars" handled it is entitled and childish, while the Ravens give Butker space.
Nevermind, Minnie *is* 7.13sps?? Miyeon is 7.38sps?? lol Imma just shut up. Watch the video coming today if you wanna know the accurate number. My tweets aren't reliable apparently.
Wait … I just saw a tweet saying people are hating on Soyeon for the Nxde rap?? Is this true?
Tomboy made sense but why are people hating on Nxde’s rap? It’s still better than the majority of GG 4th Gen rapping
Though y’all know I think Dark & sculpture are both superior raps
As a Changbin addict and loyalist;
This is the worst Jisung take I’ve ever seen… Jisung’s got some insane stuff, especially in the past 3 years.
It’s just being blind to think Jisung’s “I got it” isn’t as complex as (or more than) anything Changbin’s done 💀
Han can't arrange and compose the way and speed Chan does, also he can't take the same big responsibility Chan does have as the leader of them all, Han can't rap as intricate and complex as Changbin does, if Han has unique flow then Changbin have a way more unique flow than him+
"WIFE" is (surprisingly) not about the rapping, and I don't think that's what (G)I-DLE is going for with it. It's a hiphop base, but the rapping is very formulaic & repetitive, which is not what we're used to hearing (even from the vocalists cause "My Bag" was not formulaic)
Jesus .... all he said was "I wish younger Idols would've acknowledged my greetings"
1. People shouldn't have "manhunted" or whatever the idol he was referring to.
2. I guess idols are robots and can't have feelings
Ahhhh The Kpop fandom is so fun XD (obviously sarcasm).
Each girl has their own flow, though you could argue Minnie & Miyeon (possibly Shuhua too) have the same flow with slight variations.. but yeah. Except for Yuqi, it's all 16th 16th 16th 8th(with the rhyme). Not too much to make a video on ^^
Okay .... I *MIGHT* have figured it out.
She does a shuffle feel using triplets giving her the ability to switch back to straight 16ths in the same song. So she's activily going back and forth between offbeat triplets and triple 16ths? Maybe? Shit is wild. Let's see
I already have people in my comments saying “Asa broke the fastest Kpop rap record in Batter Up” 😭
Who’s the irresponsible person this time spreading misinformation for clicks & likes? 😡 tired of it!!!
Like, to describe it more simply:
Soyeon makes the flow *sound* like it’s a 16th shuffle into a straight 16th, but did it with triplets. It’s fascinating when you dive into the details of it and why she’s so damn good at this stuff.
One day; Kpop fans will realize that "Rapping on the offbeat" and "The rap is offbeat" mean two completely different things...
(and those using it as an insult usually don't know the difference)
Ahh I think I’d go with;
2nd: LE (EXID)
3rd: Yezi (Fiestar)
4th: Soyeon ((G)I-DLE)
5th: ASA (Baemon) — (for now, cause Young Posse gonna make a strong case in the coming years i think)
I want Changbin to have a solo, and be under the name "SpearB"
Then all of the SKZ haters and CB antis will listen to it and be like "Holy shit?? this Kpop rapper is so good" and look that it was released by JYP, just to find out they actually think CB is top tier but in denial
I’ll never understand why there’s so much hatred in Kpop. Why do people constantly feel the need to put other groups and fandoms down? (Especially when they don’t know what they’re talking about) … Kpop fans need more happiness & love in their lives.
The *OFFICIAL* fastest rappers in Korea/Kpop according to my thousands of hours of research.
Feel free to use this as evidence. I’ll try to update this as much as possible on twitter.
For the millionth time: CHANGBIN DOES NOT HIT 11.13SPS IN A SONG.
1. Google isn't a "Source" or research. It's a search engine that finds random articles that best match your question, whether they're true or not.
I hate that I can’t talk about negative opinions in Kpop rapping… like when a rapper does something mediocre or unimpressive. I think it’s really good to analyze everything and understand what makes something bad or good, but any way you phrase it will be taken as “hate” by fans
Is this not insulting to Nayeon at the end of the day? I’m sure she hand picked her features & wanted Felix on here. Wouldn’t she be disappointed to see this kind of talk?
1. Zico
2. Bobby
3. Mino
4. Changbin
5. Agust D
6. Jisung
7. Jooheon
8. Soyeon
9. RM
10. Hanse
11. Woo Jin Young deserves a little shoutout here too. He's up there.
I have a theory, if you take every rap Jisung & Changbin have ever done & found the average speed they both go, Jisung’s would be faster 👀. I’m tempted to do the research for that.
JESUS Jisung had such a good year in 2022... I know everyone talks about it, but he was really impressive & finished it off with this dominate Replay album
The amount of uneducated takes some Kpop fans have to push their bias is INSANE.
Sometimes, your bias being your fave is enough. Stop setting them up 😭
Why does it seem so easy for Idols to collab on tiktoks (like going over to other companies to make videos), but we NEVER get collabs between idols.. Like:
"Stray Kids ft. Jongseob"
"(G)I-DLE ft. Zico"
"Monsta X ft. Taeyeon"
So weird to me we can get tiktok collsbs but not songs
Soyeon is paving the way for female idol producers. She's not the first one to do it but she has more impact than others who did it before her and it'll encourage more ggs to write and produce
THIS. This is why STAY has such a bad reputation in Kpop at the moment. People like this go into videos saying they’re “defending” SKZ, and attack other groups
Stray kids wasn’t mentioned, nor had anything to do with the video for the record.
I am a SKZ fan if you don’t know me