@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 years
From a purely US-centric view, what Ukraine is doing is degrading the military capacity of a geopolitical rival of the US for a generation or more. The cost to us is a fraction of our defense budget. But MAGA folk want Russia to be stronger compared to the US, you see.
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@ArthurBoreman
Arthur Boreman (yes, that Arthur Boreman)
2 years
@Sartor1836 Yeah, I don't understand why this isn't more obvious to folks: Ukraine is degrading our enemies for us; it's literally a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 years
@ArthurBoreman Itโ€™s because MAGA sees Russia as an ally against the scary woke monster hiding under their beds. It is a fantasy world that impinges on the real world, injuring real people.
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@guitartrains9
Joshua Loomis
2 years
@Sartor1836 @gilshivers Our defense budget is larger than all of the other major powers combined. And Russia's capabilities were clearly overrated, not to mention we didn't need to turn a "rival" into an outright enemy. This proxy war is completely unnecessary, and got a lot of people killed.
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@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 years
@guitartrains9 @gilshivers Of course it is unnecessary. But Russia wanted to start a war for no reason, and they did. Now they reap the consequences.
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@Mihoda
Mihoda
2 years
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@MOQuinn62
Mack O'Quinn
2 years
@Sartor1836 For all their rhetoric, MAGA doesn't want America great again. At it's heart, MAGA hates itself. A classic case of cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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@Mmoran64
Michael Moran
2 years
@Sartor1836 Wait... Ted Cruz told me they already are stronger than our military
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@scdallav
Steven ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ
2 years
@Sartor1836 And moving the Xi-Putin alliance from the asset to liability column on China's spreadsheet, but Biden's the one who's soft on China apparently.
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@DanielDayJewish
Daniel Day Jewish ๐Ÿ”ฅ
2 years
@Sartor1836 The U.S. has struggled with proxies of allies of power rivals for ages. "Maybe we'll make a deal with the Taliban, maybe we'll align with Iran and let it do whatever, we better not say mean things about China and we should give Russia reset buttons". And they want to whiff this?
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@Sartor1836
Strahan Cadell
2 years
@simchaonn The only people who are getting practice are the ones who are practicing avoiding combat. The rest are getting slaughtered. They cannot make anything but the most basic equipment. And they are in demographic freefall, hence the kidnapping of Ukrainian children.
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@nborchich
Nick Borchich
2 years
@Sartor1836 And mostly paid out in outdated equipment anyways
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@marcoviggiano
Marco Viggiano Pastorczyk
2 years
@Sartor1836 it's also economically and politically destabilizing a nuclear power. that's the frightening part.
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@TNG512
TNG5
2 years
@Sartor1836 @NGrossman81 This war is pushing Russia closer to China, a far more powerful potential rival. Even Henry Kissinger knows that you don't want to fight Russia and China simultaneously. And we even managed to push Iran into the anti-US coalition too.
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@PartyReaper
Kadafi Purp
2 years
@Sartor1836 Imagine having the ability to decimate your geopolitical enemies for a rounding error in your budget, losing zero soldiers, and itโ€™s also the morally right thing to do and you donโ€™t want to do that.
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@D_Blake42
Daniel A
2 years
@Sartor1836 because teh gheys obviously
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