@ElstKoenraad
Koenraad Elst
5 months
Caste may be a European *word*, but it is a Hindu *concept*: it merely is a translation of "jāti", nothing else. As I have had to experience up close in the Swastika debate, Hindu often think they can solve real problems on the cheap by means of merely verbal acrobatics.
@PTickall
Shivaay
5 months
@shelbyygun @UnSubtleDesi There is no word “caste” in Hindu dharma. Caste is a European concept n word. Hindus had varna n jati (type) system which were based on karma mostly. Europeans invaded n created this division using their word caste for their divide n rule policy, without which they cudnt rule
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@Gopalkris1983
Gopal
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Which Hindu did it in South America ? As with swastika, it gets attributed to Hindus if Hindus dont pushback.
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@arun_einstein
Arun
5 months
@ElstKoenraad You should know the power of naming and the effect it has on perception.
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@SammyVada
SammyVada
5 months
@ElstKoenraad This is dishonest
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@yajnadevam
yajnadevam
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Caste implies hierarchy based on percentage of desirable ancestry. Jati is a set of hereditary traditions. The differing tradition can simply be dialect or sampradaya or even whether you eat onion with everything else being equal. Jati is also non hierarchical.
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@SVOjha
Sumedha V Ojha
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Have to disagree with you, Sir. Varna and Jati are very different from Caste. We cannot be forever prisoners of Bougle and Dumont.
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@RaghuBhaskaran
Raghu Bhaskaran - The Mongoose of Mahabharata
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Verbal redefinitions are a part of "solving" the problems in narrative-ideological battles. They by themself aren't the solution, nor can they be ignored.
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@BharatDharma7
भारत धर्म
5 months
@ElstKoenraad No. There is no canonical hierarchy among Jatis, whereas colonials and colonized sepoys speak in terms of "caste hierarchy". Also Jati and Varna are separate concepts whereas colonials and sepoys like to conflate them
@ElstKoenraad
Koenraad Elst
5 months
Caste may be a European *word*, but it is a Hindu *concept*: it merely is a translation of "jāti", nothing else. As I have had to experience up close in the Swastika debate, Hindu often think they can solve real problems on the cheap by means of merely verbal acrobatics.
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@AshokSGarcha
Ashok Singh
5 months
@ElstKoenraad either verbal acrobatics or blaming the British or the Mughals. Ability for introspection and real reform is lacking in the Hindutvi idealogues
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@dh48043
DharmoRakshati
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Well, it is true that Hindus always had varna and jati but it is also true, that they were far more flexible (and not exclusively based on birth). Yes, some faultlines existed as in any other civilization, but the colonizers exploited this and made it very rigid.
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@rykerzeke
Ryker
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Caste of mind by Nicholas Dirk is a must-read for you. Do you really think that this was just a translation? Sir
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@sandboi
Sandesh Anvekar
5 months
@ElstKoenraad But why did Europeans have a word for something which they never practised?
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@PTickall
Shivaay
5 months
@ElstKoenraad WRONG. When u don’t have good understanding of Hindi n Sanskrit, u will confuse Varna n Jati (Hindu) with caste (European). Here meanings of words r multiple n with context n placement d meanings r different. Nuances, which invader translators didn’t understood or misused.
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@bhaskarmv
M V Bhaskar
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Caste is NOT just Jaati. It is Jaati plus Heirachy. Indian society did not have a fixed I.e., rigid Heirachy. Jaatis moved up and down the social scale. Jaatis were very rigid, due to endogamy. Varna was just theoretical, Like Ashrama dharma.
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@pushpita
Pushpita
5 months
@ElstKoenraad If jaati is caste, what then is that infamous caste pyramid thrust upon us ad nauseum? And are you really implying that humans can be part of no more than one grouping in their life??
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@Newgrowr3
Newthought
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Jati means belongs to which profession. Responsiblity make society.
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@AncientIndia7
प्राचीन भारत
5 months
@ElstKoenraad we already have a word - tribes in english to translate jati - why is caste required? it was used for destroying trust in Hindu processes and life style #arrogance will be the end of all Hindus had much better understanding of the #world with an amazing #education system #learn
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@chaubeputra
VC #SaveKashi #ReclaimKashmir #FreeHinduTemples
5 months
@ElstKoenraad I would disagree with you here. It becomes so much easier with hindi words in a group discussion of hindi crowd. We can discuss our realities our problems wayy better in our language to understand them better and solve them.
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@Paranjyoti8
Priscilla Jon T -the primordial, Sanatani
5 months
@ElstKoenraad Might be hard to fathom what the concept originally was when looking at the way it is actually practised today…
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@owyakkow
Flint, MI
5 months
@ElstKoenraad It is not 'just' a Hindu concept, it's a human concept. Caste is practiced by ALL human societies regardless of the word used to name it. And Indians enacted the largest positive discrimination with RESERVATION for the oppressed. This was most definitely NOT cheap 🙏🙏
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@vishwagodzillaa
Arjun loves Cats | Inactive
5 months
@ElstKoenraad You are horribly wrong in this case. Bad faith? Logical q : How is 'casta' a part of the spanish lexicon if it is a mere english translation of "jati"?
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