Caste may be a European *word*, but it is a Hindu *concept*: it merely is a translation of "jāti", nothing else. As I have had to experience up close in the Swastika debate, Hindu often think they can solve real problems on the cheap by means of merely verbal acrobatics.
@shelbyygun
@UnSubtleDesi
There is no word “caste” in Hindu dharma.
Caste is a European concept n word.
Hindus had varna n jati (type) system which were based on karma mostly.
Europeans invaded n created this division using their word caste for their divide n rule policy, without which they cudnt rule
@ElstKoenraad
Caste implies hierarchy based on percentage of desirable ancestry. Jati is a set of hereditary traditions. The differing tradition can simply be dialect or sampradaya or even whether you eat onion with everything else being equal. Jati is also non hierarchical.
@ElstKoenraad
Verbal redefinitions are a part of "solving" the problems in narrative-ideological battles.
They by themself aren't the solution, nor can they be ignored.
@ElstKoenraad
No. There is no canonical hierarchy among Jatis, whereas colonials and colonized sepoys speak in terms of "caste hierarchy". Also Jati and Varna are separate concepts whereas colonials and sepoys like to conflate them
Caste may be a European *word*, but it is a Hindu *concept*: it merely is a translation of "jāti", nothing else. As I have had to experience up close in the Swastika debate, Hindu often think they can solve real problems on the cheap by means of merely verbal acrobatics.
@ElstKoenraad
either verbal acrobatics or blaming the British or the Mughals.
Ability for introspection and real reform is lacking in the Hindutvi idealogues
@ElstKoenraad
Well, it is true that Hindus always had varna and jati but it is also true, that they were far more flexible (and not exclusively based on birth). Yes, some faultlines existed as in any other civilization, but the colonizers exploited this and made it very rigid.
@ElstKoenraad
WRONG.
When u don’t have good understanding of Hindi n Sanskrit, u will confuse Varna n Jati (Hindu) with caste (European).
Here meanings of words r multiple n with context n placement d meanings r different.
Nuances, which invader translators didn’t understood or misused.
@ElstKoenraad
Caste is NOT just Jaati.
It is Jaati plus Heirachy.
Indian society did not have a fixed I.e., rigid Heirachy.
Jaatis moved up and down the social scale.
Jaatis were very rigid, due to endogamy.
Varna was just theoretical,
Like Ashrama dharma.
@ElstKoenraad
If jaati is caste, what then is that infamous caste pyramid thrust upon us ad nauseum? And are you really implying that humans can be part of no more than one grouping in their life??
@ElstKoenraad
we already have a word - tribes in english to translate jati - why is caste required? it was used for destroying trust in Hindu processes and life style
#arrogance
will be the end of all
Hindus had much better understanding of the
#world
with an amazing
#education
system
#learn
@ElstKoenraad
I would disagree with you here.
It becomes so much easier with hindi words in a group discussion of hindi crowd.
We can discuss our realities our problems wayy better in our language to understand them better and solve them.
@ElstKoenraad
It is not 'just' a Hindu concept, it's a human concept. Caste is practiced by ALL human societies regardless of the word used to name it.
And Indians enacted the largest positive discrimination with RESERVATION for the oppressed. This was most definitely NOT cheap 🙏🙏
@ElstKoenraad
You are horribly wrong in this case. Bad faith?
Logical q : How is 'casta' a part of the spanish lexicon if it is a mere english translation of "jati"?