@AnginaBC
Angina Heartburn 🏴‍☠️
1 year
@joelw_762 @paulimeth Taking it down to the level of popular culture in Ukraine, what language is spoken in the tv show Servant of the People, which was produced by Zelensky and helped him get elected? It’s on Netflix and YouTube.
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@hunterpauli
Hunter Pauli
1 year
What a catastrophically wrong thing to say. Ukraine today is a radically anti-communist state almost totally depopulated of millions of Jews and Poles and is currently fighting a civil war against its Russian ethnic minority due in no small part to the OUN.
@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@VlStarodubtsev @wanderer1982 It seems to occur to so few people -- both Ukrainians and their enemies -- that Ukraine today bears almost no resemblance to the Ukraine that OUN-B/UPA/Bandera/his milieu wanted to create. IMHO, it would be a good thing if more of the country realized that.
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@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth Hey, what is the first language of Ukraine's president, top two generals, and most of its armed forces?
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@hunterpauli
Hunter Pauli
1 year
@joelw_762 Do you have any idea what the OUN did in Lviv? Why there aren't very many Jews where you live?
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@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth Yes, and I know this history far better than you do. I also go to Jewish events in Lviv without trouble or fear of harassment. Now, what's the answer to my question?
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@hunterpauli
Hunter Pauli
1 year
@joelw_762 No, clearly not.
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@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth The fact that you blame the ethnic cleansing of Poles in Galicia on OUN/UPA instead of Stalin makes pretty clear that your understanding of this history comes from reading a few alternative media articles instead of any serious reading.
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@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth The fact that you think this Ukraine is engaged in an internal ethnolinguistic conflict tells me the same thing. This is not something that anyone with any real understanding of Ukraine would say.
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@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth Now let's circle back to this:
@joelw_762
Joel Wasserman
1 year
@paulimeth Hey, what is the first language of Ukraine's president, top two generals, and most of its armed forces?
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@KittyCatC_007
KittyCatC
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@AnginaBC
Angina Heartburn 🏴‍☠️
1 year
@KittyCatC_007 @joelw_762 @paulimeth All three are on Netflix where I live. Not sure how many seasons are on Youtube but it is there.
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@maryk_ProudDem
❄Radical Liberal Snowflake❄ 🇺🇸 🗽🇺🇦🌻
1 year
@AnginaBC @joelw_762 @paulimeth The reason so many Ukrainians speak "russian" is due to literally centuries of suppression of the Ukrainian language by first, the "russian" empire, and then by the soviet union. They don't speak "russian" because they wanted to. They were forced to.
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