@yaronbrook The only logical case for abortion imo is because rape and overpopulation do exist

@yaronbrook @yaron , big fan of Rand, but can’t quite get there with her on abortion. For instance, this seems like an argument in favor of abortion up until the moment of birth. If so, what fundamental change occurs the moment before and the moment after birth? How does birth confer being?

@yaronbrook A foetus at 25-26 weeks is not potential , it can be brought into this world and thrive. Abortion after a certain nr of weeks is deciding over an actual being. So I support restriction on post-viability abortion.

@yaronbrook People, Ayn Rand said ‘embryo’ specifiy.

@yaronbrook Any living creature can only have rights if the legislature grants those rights. Locke's natural rights of 'life, liberty and property' may sound grand. But it's founded on an ideal world which need not exist.

@yaronbrook So … what’s the best way to convince anyone that an embryo or fetus (even up till the moment its head emerges) is only and merely potential?

@yaronbrook Ok I was thinking of a mother as maybe having property rights in her body, & maybe the embryo as well. I really need to read up on history of property rights theory.

@yaronbrook False. Back to early English common law, rights of inheritance are conveyed to the unborn.

@yaronbrook If she lived in the present day, where we can see the child before birth, Ayn Rand might have agreed that aborting girls because the parents think boys are more useful is a hideous practice.

@yaronbrook On the very short list of things I disagree with Rand on, abortion is the most depressing. I don’t see the rationale for parental obligations and the rights of the fetus/baby to be a digital yes/no at birth. Viability+margin makes more sense. Say 12 weeks except in special cases.

@yaronbrook Disgusting.

@yaronbrook What a horrible quote.

@yaronbrook If you want a libertarian pro-abortion argument, I personally find Murray Rothbard to be more persuasive.

@yaronbrook I disagree.

@yaronbrook You’re allowed to have your own original thoughts on some things. You don’t need to let rand think for you on everything.

@yaronbrook I'm all for women's rights to abortion, but I don't think that quote makes sense. Birth itself doesn't change the being. If a plant is living, then a fetus is living. Abortion is just the lesser evil. Shorter term pain. Very "late stage" abortion is murder, but so is war.

@yaronbrook Only Rand could say things without mincing her words! Others will hem and haw over using such stark words but she never left anything to interpretation.🙏

@yaronbrook An independent existence outside another person is my line. Science keeps pushing it back. But who would pay for the incubation?

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