@steve_shives
Steve Shives
4 years
Anyone reading that who wasn't up to speed on trans issues might reasonably conclude that cis men were being allowed to stay at a formerly women-only shelter, and quite rightly think that's outrageous.
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@steve_shives
Steve Shives
4 years
Sorry, I'm still stuck on the TERF I just unfriended. I've just gotta get this out, so if you're tired of hearing about this, go ahead and stop reading. But here's what really pisses me off:
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@steve_shives
Steve Shives
4 years
The person I unfriended was complaining about how a women's shelter near her was now, according to her, no longer a women's shelter because it was inclusive to trans women. She said it was wrong to allow "males" to invade women-only spaces.
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Steve Shives
4 years
And that's really dehumanizing and disrespectful to trans women, but what struck me for the first time reading that post was how fucking dishonest it is, as well.
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@steve_shives
Steve Shives
4 years
Only that's not what she meant. She wasn't complaining about cis men being allowed in a women's shelter. She was complaining about trans women being allowed in a women's shelter. But she never explicitly said that, she only spoke in fucking TERF code.
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@steve_shives
Steve Shives
4 years
If you're going to vilify trans people (and ABUSED trans people in need of shelter at that), at least have the fucking courage to do it openly. Why try to disguise what you're really talking about if you're sure you're on the side of righteousness, you fucking coward?
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@babybeginner
Jennifer ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ด๐Ÿง™โ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿฆ‰๐Ÿˆโ€โฌ› ๐Ÿฆ–
4 years
@steve_shives What difference does it make to raped women who need to heal away from males what gender that male identifies as? None. There are hundreds of genders. Trans is just one of them. None of them change your sex, which is the thing thatโ€™s really important in a RAPE.
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@williamhcarlton
williamhcarlton
4 years
@steve_shives You have me wondering why there should be gender exclusion at all. Why should a cis male have fewer shelter opportunities than a biologically male trans female if they are both abuse victims? Why not "battered persons" shelters? Really, tho, why not?
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@Charlie67830260
Charlie Morris Agent 6970
4 years
@steve_shives 80% of transwomen keep their penis. For all intents and purposes, they're no different to any other man, accept they call themselves transwomen. Many are simply straight men with a fetish.
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@KnownHeretic
Amy E. Sousa
4 years
@steve_shives Women/girls have no way to tell the difference between men and males who identify as transwomen in our safe spaces.
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@ForWomenScot
For Women Scotland
3 years
@steve_shives And they would be right. If you read this document, you will see that (faulty under law) advice from LGBT youth in Scotland tell shelters they must accept male people on their word alone. The premise here (laughable) is that abusive men never lie.
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@SResisters
Shropshire Wendy. UltraTerf
3 years
@steve_shives All humans know there is no magical moment when sex changes. It's smoke, mirrors and a lifetime spent gaming or obsessed with videos made by disingenuous humans. Stop the lies.
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@OlierNina
Nina West
4 years
@steve_shives Er no they might reasonably suppose that men were not allowed in a women only shelter. Trans women are, in fact, men.
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@fundypost
Paul Litterick
4 years
@steve_shives How would the shelter's staff distinguish between men and transwomen, to bar the former and admit the latter? What test could be applied, given that 85% of transwomen retain their male genitalia? Any man could claim to be a transwoman to gain admittance and harm the women inside.
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@peacelove1967
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4 years
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@Shelducks8
Harlequin Duck
4 years
@steve_shives 'up to speed on trans issues'. Like you, you mean, Steve?
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@carolineb180
Caroline
3 years
@steve_shives It is outrageous. โ€œSelf IDโ€ allows ANY man to declare heโ€™s a woman & invade womenโ€™s spaces without redress. That includes men with bad intentions. You show zero respect or compassion for vulnerable women. Male pattern violence isnโ€™t a myth. Wake up.
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@elainebfca
KPSScalluout
3 years
@steve_shives There are roughly 6.5,000 Transexuals with a GRC There are 300,000 transgender no dysphoria no medical transition in law legally Male So the chances are you are shouting about Males
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@oldspeaker1
Oldspeaker1 ๐Ÿ“ข
3 years
@steve_shives This person would be able to stay at the women-only shelter. Women wouldnโ€™t be allowed to say no, โ€œpassingโ€ isnโ€™t reqโ€™d. So women MUST feel completely comfortable with this person but can be justifiably outraged if a โ€œcisโ€ man wanted to stay at the shelter...that makes no sense.
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