@tomwarren
Almost every CPU in the last 5-7 years has a TPM. For Intel its called the "Intel PTT" which you set to enabled. For AMD it would be "AMD PSP fTPM". TPMs have been required for OEM certification since at least 2015 and was announced in 2013:
if Microsoft's Windows 11 upgrade checker is telling you that your PC isn't supported, check your BIOS. You'll need a TPM 2.0 chip and to have Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS
@dwizzzleMSFT
@TheWMIGuy
@tomwarren
Not sure I agree 100%. MOST machines have a TPM, but some of the lower end consumer-grade laptops do not. Small companies buy these because of the price. I’ve found a few of these recently.
@dashaund
@TheWMIGuy
@tomwarren
if you look at the supported processor list you will see that we have lots of lower end processors supported that have PTT or fTPM
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
I don't have a TPM chip, but are you (or anyone) aware if there a list of Intel CPUs that support PTT? I heard that it was introduced in 2013 with the 4th gen i5/7 CPUs, but I can't tell if mine (4670k) does or not.
@Bhaal_Spawn
the 4670k isn’t on the supported CPU list, so you won’t be offered the Windows 11 upgrade unfortunately. We’re waiting to get full confirmation on supported CPUs, but so far it looks like 8th Gen onwards
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
Is there any reason this is compulsory from now on? Not everyone needs disk encryption/BitLocker. Also, someone needs to clarify what happens if you change the CPU/motherboard in regards to the encryption key (do you lose access to the OS?). Unnecessary complexity IMHO.
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
The minimum requirements for Windows 11 explicitly states that it will *not* support Intel/AMD CPUs released before 2018.
Either this is an oversight, or you are literally getting ordinary peoples’ hopes up by mentioning that 5-7 year old desktop CPUs have built-in TPM support.
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
To clear up all the bullshit that MS did today, win 11 supported CPU are CPU newer than 4 years according to their list:
Begin to support device from 8th gen intel CPU
This is for me bullshit and a way to reduce the 1billion+ users
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
Tried to check my compatibility for Windows 11, but my laptop has an intel core i5-7300HQ which isn’t one of the supported CPUs, apparently.
Also, I feel the CPU requirement should be included on the “PC can’t W11” page, like for GPU, for better understanding though.
Unfortunate
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
The TPM chip isn't built into the CPU, it's an external chip or module on the motherboard. While yes the cpu does need to support it. Some motherboards you would need to buy a TPM module from the manufacturer as there is just a header for a module on some boards
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
I get that. It may not be a problem for 1st world orgs. But worldwide?
At my workplace in Brazil, most of our devices use Intel 4th gen, or older. No PTT.
Realistically, we can't replace all of those in 4 years (when Win10 goes out of life).
@dwizzzleMSFT
@tomwarren
Do you think Microsoft will rethink the minimum requirements of the TPM? I mean, TMP 1.2 instead TPM 2.0, in order to more people can install Windows 11? Or even remove the TPM requirement?
I have a PC from 2014, and the motherboard and microprocessor only support TMP 1.2.